Post Senior Bowl / FA Mock Draft

[overseascardfan]

Okay, so assuming ARZ is done with FA and with the remaining needs we have my mock would shape up like this. My caveat is I am not going to include rounds because there could be some draft day shifting by ARZ. Also, I am assuming that the following players are off the board:

Noah Spence
Shaq Lawson
William Jackson III
Eli Apple
Emmanuel Ogbah

These are the guys I hope ARZ ends up with:
C Ryan Kelly - Can't go into the season with Shipley as starting C. Kelly is hands down the best C (the least flawed) in this draft IMO.

DE Shawn Oakman - Campbell is a FA next year, if he isn't extended then obviously he will have to be replaced. Oakman has Campbell's size and would look really good opposite him.

OT Le'Raven Clark - This kid has nice size but most impressive are his nimble feet, long wingspan and huge hands. He would challenge Humphries for the RT job (might even beat him out) but could eventually move to LT.

CB Eric Murray - I don't get scouts opinion that he cannot play on the outside because he is not big enough (he's 6'0 200). He also ran a sub 4.5 40 so he has some speed to keep up with receivers. He didn't really display ball skills (2 career INT's) which is why he should be available in the mid rounds.

CB Cyrus Jones - I like him in the slot as he has the perfect build for it. ARZ needs 2 CB's if they do not bring back Powers (Bethel should not be playing CB IMO). Jones also will double as a return man and could play some WR like he did at ALA.

ILB Travis Feeney - Tall ILB prospect (6'4 230) who showed some speed at the Combine (4.5 40) and displayed some play making ability at UW. He isn't a thumper so he will not be taking on OL but he has sideline to sideline speed to get to ball carriers. He has some injury history with his shoulders but stayed healthy his SR year.

OLB Dadi Nicolas - Would give ARZ a full 2-deep at OLB and Nicolas is a low risk, high reward type of player who needs to put on some weight but showed his ability to get to the QB is JR year (9 sacks) but production fell off his SR year because VT needed him to play base DE his SR year.

 

[Finito]

Oakman is a joke

 

[Snakester]

Kelley would be a solid pick and give us a good and cheap center for four years. There will be a defensive player that will fall to us in the first round if we go that route. I have a feeling that Keim will trade back to gain another pick as well.

 

[Mainstreet]

I keep remembering Cooper as almost can't miss offensive lineman. I'd like to draft some other position with the first pick than the offensive line. Maybe a center can be drafted in a later round..

 

[juza76]

I keep remembering Cooper as almost can't miss offensive lineman. I'd like to draft some other position with the first pick than the offensive line. Maybe a center can be drafted in a later round..

+1
I remember about how Cooper and warmack were considered the safest picks
What about the praise Cameron Erving got from some users
He was just terrible in his 1st season

 

[overseascardfan]

Oakman is a joke

People had the same questions for Campbell when he came out and he dropped because of them but he answered his critics. I feel Oakman can do the same, nearly identical situation as Campbell. Besides it's not like they will take him in Round 1, he would be a good value in Round 3.

 

[overseascardfan]

I keep remembering Cooper as almost can't miss offensive lineman. I'd like to draft some other position with the first pick than the offensive line. Maybe a center can be drafted in a later round..

You can get a C in later rounds but I think Kelly is the most NFL ready right now and ARZ cannot wait to develop a C unless they are going to sign a veteran to a 1 year deal to give the rookie time to develop.

+1
I remember about how Cooper and warmack were considered the safest picks
What about the praise Cameron Erving got from some users
He was just terrible in his 1st season

Big differences are:
1 - Kelley isn't going in the Top 10, late first round to mid second round is where he'll end up so he's a safer pick.

2 - Cameron Erving didn't play C full time until his last year, Kelly has always been a C, never shifted from that spot so he is much more developed and experienced than Erving.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

We need to draft the best CB left for our 1st pick.

 

[overseascardfan]

We need to draft the best CB left for our 1st pick.

If Apple or Jackson are there then sure, case can be made. But in m scenario, they are off the board. Are you suggesting reaching for a guy like Xavien Howard in Round 1?

 

[Lagerfilled]

WillJaxIII book it!

 

[Finito]

I think if Robert Nkimdeche is there you take him the upside is worth the risk

 

[DVontel]

People had the same questions for Campbell when he came out and he dropped because of them but he answered his critics. I feel Oakman can do the same, nearly identical situation as Campbell. Besides it's not like they will take him in Round 1, he would be a good value in Round 3.

Except Calais wasn't no where near as stiff than Oakman is at the time.

 

[overseascardfan]

Except Calais wasn't no where near as stiff than Oakman is at the time.

Yeah, but that is something he can work on as well as lower body strength as his upper body is more developed at this point and he is top heavy which throws off his balance. With pro coaching he can even develop more pass rush moves as right now he is a bull rusher which would be fine in our 3-4 scheme but a pass rusher on the line would really be nice. What you can't teach are his measurables (height, wingspan and big hands).

 

[juza76]

I think if Robert Nkimdeche is there you take him the upside is worth the risk

Matt Miller:

"Take [Robert] Nkemdiche out of your mock drafts. No one is that stupid." These are the texts you get when you take a flier and put Nkemdiche to the Seattle Seahawks in Round 1. This, from a general manager competing with the Seahawks in the NFC West, was too good not to share. - Matt Miller

 

[GuernseyCard]

Matt Miller:

"Take [Robert] Nkemdiche out of your mock drafts. No one is that stupid." These are the texts you get when you take a flier and put Nkemdiche to the Seattle Seahawks in Round 1. This, from a general manager competing with the Seahawks in the NFC West, was too good not to share. - Matt Miller

Unless the quote comes from Keim, I couldn't care less what those deep thinkers in SF and LA have to say.

Robert Nkemdiche, DE/DT = Darnell Dockett part Deux!

(and let's not forget how DD's character was questioned going into his draft.)

 

[juza76]

If Apple or Jackson are there then sure, case can be made. But in m scenario, they are off the board. Are you suggesting reaching for a guy like Xavien Howard in Round 1?

i think WJIII is the better player and more ready for pro

 

[Mitch]

i think WJIII is the better player and more ready for pro

I agree, Juza. I think Apple's length, athleticism and swag are appealing---but WJIII is more disciplined, fundamentally sound and consistent. Plus, WJIII's physical skills are outstanding.

 

[overseascardfan]

i think WJIII is the better player and more ready for pro

I agree, Juza. I think Apple's length, athleticism and swag are appealing---but WJIII is more disciplined, fundamentally sound and consistent. Plus, WJIII's physical skills are outstanding.

Again, my mock is in assumption that Jackson is not available when we pick, Apple as well. If one of them are there, then yes a #2 CB would warrant the pick. If neither is there, along with the others on my list, Ryan Kelly would fill a huge hole at C.

 

[pinetopred]

Again, my mock is in assumption that Jackson is not available when we pick, Apple as well. If one of them are there, then yes a #2 CB would warrant the pick. If neither is there, along with the others on my list, Ryan Kelly would fill a huge hole at C.

I may be in the minority on this but I think the Seahawks will draft an Olineman and I think they may target Kelly. I think they are realizing how much they gave up to get Graham at this point.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

We need to draft the best CB left for our 1st pick.

So we need to reach for need, despite being in the perfect position to take the best player. No thanks. Also, we will have another veteran QB by draft time. Powers, Hall, or someone decent.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yeah Oakman is not good. He is the poster boy for looking like Tarzan and playing like Jane. I wouldn't waste a pick on him.