Posted before reading: Steve Keim has Built Something Beautifully Dumb in the Desert

[kerouac9]

https://deadspin.com/steve-keim-has-built-something-beautifully-dumb-in-the-1834486622

First?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

beautifully written, puts Keim up there with Griffin and Gettleman.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Roth gets the Keim timeline all wrong.

Keim was given an extension, signed Bradford, Traded up for Rosen all well before his DUI arrest. Roth makes it sound like this all happened after he was arrested.

 

[unseenaz]

why do I get the sense that there's going to be no middle ground in the next 2 or 3 years of this team?

we were already in the dregs of the league, then we took a crazy unprecedented turn. it's going to work beautifully or go down in flames.

 

[dscher]

why do I get the sense that there's going to be no middle ground in the next 2 or 3 years of this team?

we were already in the dregs of the league, then we took a crazy unprecedented turn. it's going to work beautifully or go down in flames.

Just the way I like it.. go big or go home!

 

[Mainstreet]

why do I get the sense that there's going to be no middle ground in the next 2 or 3 years of this team?

we were already in the dregs of the league, then we took a crazy unprecedented turn. it's going to work beautifully or go down in flames.

Wins will translate to common ground... if it happens. Also if Rosen under performs in Miami, it will help.

 

[Krangodnzr]

What options did the Cardinals have at QB last year?

 

[ARZCardinals]

We will see

Till the O line is fixed....I'm not buying anything they're selling

 

[kerouac9]

What options did the Cardinals have at QB last year?

Are we really going to re-litigate this again? There were plenty of options for guys who could be cover-your-eyes-awful for four games without costing $25 million in guaranteed money. Case Keenum, for example. Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert are guys who could've been just as bad and not cost you toward a compensatory pick.

 

[splitsecond]

Why does anyone still read deadspin?

 

[Russ Smith]

Not to be confused with David Lee Roth who is Hot for Teacher

 

[Krangodnzr]

Are we really going to re-litigate this again? There were plenty of options for guys who could be cover-your-eyes-awful for four games without costing $25 million in guaranteed money. Case Keenum, for example. Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert are guys who could've been just as bad and not cost you toward a compensatory pick.

MMQB.

Bradford at his best is substantially better than Stanton and Gabbert.

There wasnt a ton of handwringing over Bradford until he was benched, but that was bs because when Bradford was brought on board the hadn't drafted Rosen.

 

[kerouac9]

MMQB.

Bradford at his best is substantially better than Stanton and Gabbert.

There wasnt a ton of handwringing over Bradford until he was benched, but that was bs because when Bradford was brought on board the hadn't drafted Rosen.

I prefer to live in the reality where Sam Bradford is the guy he's revealed himself to be, and not the guy who was tantalizing 4 years ago.

Gabbert started a playoff game last year. When was the last time Bradford did that. Stanton won a game two years ago. When was the last time Sam Bradford won a football game?

Sam Bradford was complete toast 2 years ago. Max Hall is as legitimate a starting option in 2018.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

https://deadspin.com/steve-keim-has-built-something-beautifully-dumb-in-the-1834486622

First?

Mr. Roth is spot on, except for the “beautifully” part. Keim: ugh.

 

[TRW]

In addition to some comments above "Bradford was bad...and then badly injured"???? What???? He was just bad. He didn't hit the pine because he was "badly injured". He was "badly injured" way before he was just "bad". In fact, "bad" would have been an improvement over his atrocious play before he was benched.

This guy is a very amateur writer.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I prefer to live in the reality where Sam Bradford is the guy he's revealed himself to be, and not the guy who was tantalizing 4 years ago.

Gabbert started a playoff game last year. When was the last time Bradford did that. Stanton won a game two years ago. When was the last time Sam Bradford won a football game?

Sam Bradford was complete toast 2 years ago. Max Hall is as legitimate a starting option in 2018.

That's pretty disingenuous to state that Gabbert started a playoff game, because without context, that would make one assume that Gabbert led his team to the playoffs which isn't the case. And that team that he started for quickly jettisoned him for a legit back up when they got the chance. Bradford if healthy, and with a decent supporting cast, is an ok starting QB in the NFL at times. Nothing great mind you, but not Blaine Gabbert detritus.

Where I REALLY fault the team was in not addressing QB prior to last offseason. The team had multiple shots at legitimate starters, but waited until the very end to draft one and sign Bradford. There weren't many good options; you throw out Keenum, but Keenum was also dogshit as well.

 

[kerouac9]

That's pretty disingenuous to state that Gabbert started a playoff game, because without context, that would make one assume that Gabbert led his team to the playoffs which isn't the case. And that team that he started for quickly jettisoned him for a legit back up when they got the chance. Bradford if healthy, and with a decent supporting cast, is an ok starting QB in the NFL at times. Nothing great mind you, but not Blaine Gabbert detritus.

Where I REALLY fault the team was in not addressing QB prior to last offseason. The team had multiple shots at legitimate starters, but waited until the very end to draft one and sign Bradford. There weren't many good options; you throw out Keenum, but Keenum was also dogshit as well.

Yes, but Keenum cost like 10% of Bradford and — you know — won football games. Keim was the last victim of Sam Bradford's grift, which is embarrassing.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yes, but Keenum cost like 10% of Bradford and — you know — won football games. Keim was the last victim of Sam Bradford's grift, which is embarrassing.

Case Keenum made $18 million last year....https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/case-keenum-10079/cash-earnings/

 

[kerouac9]

Case Keenum made $18 million last year....https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/case-keenum-10079/cash-earnings/

Maybe, but he only had a $15M cap hit.

The Cards could've gone with Glennon and gotten more for less than they did with Bradford. You arguably could've gone into the draft having signed Glennon and Teddy Bridgewater for $10 million each and been in better shape than what we had with Bradford and Glennon.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Are we really going to re-litigate this again? There were plenty of options for guys who could be cover-your-eyes-awful for four games without costing $25 million in guaranteed money. Case Keenum, for example. Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert are guys who could've been just as bad and not cost you toward a compensatory pick.

Sure, and you'd need to be a Time Traveller to know how the Bradford experiment would turn out. All complaints going into the season were about his precarious health, not his play, which was certainly superior to the Stanton's and Gabbert's of the football world.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Maybe, but he only had a $15M cap hit.

The Cards could've gone with Glennon and gotten more for less than they did with Bradford. You arguably could've gone into the draft having signed Glennon and Teddy Bridgewater for $10 million each and been in better shape than what we had with Bradford and Glennon.

Bridgewater? Dicey career and one of the worst knee injuries anyone has ever seen.

Like I said, the bigger portion of the QB mistakes were made in 2015-2017, not last year. The Cardinals put themselves into a bad spot. They easily could have drafted Carr, Bridgewater, traded up for Watson/Mahomes, and a few other options.

The cap mistakes will be erased by next offseason, so hopefully Murray works out.

 

[football karma]

the single biggest mistake Keim made last offseason was thinking he had a playoff roster that just needed a couple pieces.

the remainder of the mistakes flowed from that one......

 

[TRW]

I don't care how it's sliced and diced, the amount of $$ he signed Bradford to was STUPID. It was just STUPID. Way too much for a pedestrian, injured, never great QB. The Cards (Keim) just had to look at what happened in Minnesota to know just how risky Sam was and to give him that much cash was ridiculous.

I wouldn't have had a problem with a "prove it", incentive laden deal but to guarantee that much was, well, to repeat myself, STUPID.

Sam's agent is a freakin' genius! He made him a very, very rich man. One of the most unbelievable careers ever in the NFL. Good for Sam! He laughs all the way to the bank

It really didn't matter in the long run. Last year was an epic failure on so many counts and Sam was just one of them.

 

[Brak]

Why does anyone still read deadspin?

^^ This. Awful excuse for journalism.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

What options did the Cardinals have at QB last year?

I thought going into the season that Bradford was going to be fine? Then He looked as though he had never completed a pass in his life in the first 3 games. I know our OC was a joke & all but I watched him miss receivers that were wide open on short pass plays even.