Practice squad released

[cardsfanmd]

Either way, it's irrelevant. BTW, I'm not sure, but the Skins may have picked before us in the 6th anyway.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not anti-Harrington, just pro-Brooks

And pro-player whose job it is to kick can do just that.

Rackers and Johnson are VERY scary.

I hate the fact they are our kicker and punter. If anything is going to lose games this year it will be Frick and Frack.

And that is not an assumption, at least in Rackers case, he has proven to blow games for us time and time again.

Scary, so scary that MD actually wanted to draft a punter.

 

[cardsfanmd]

And pro-player whose job it is to kick can do just that.

Rackers and Johnson are VERY scary.

I hate the fact they are our kicker and punter. If anything is going to lose games this year it will be Frick and Frack.

And that is not an assumption, at least in Rackers case, he has proven to blow games for us time and time again.

Scary, so scary that MD actually wanted to draft a punter.

Even scarier than that. If you go back and look at my mock draft from this year I had us taking both the P Brooks and the K Brandon Coutu (who BTW has been hitting from everywhere with everyone's favorite Seattle Seahawks all preseason and has won the job there).

 

[Crazy Canuck]

The reason why Harrington and Keyes may not be on the PS is that they elected to sign up for another team's PS...although Darren Urban has no knowledge of this and did seemed very surprised Harrington was not re-signed.
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Really... what teams?

 

[cardsfanmd]

Really... what teams?

None, just another one of Mitch's conspiracy theories.

 

[joeshmo]

The reason why Harrington and Keyes may not be on the PS is that they elected to sign up for another team's PS

Out of 31 teams reporting, Keyes and Harrington are not on any of them.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/01/practice-squads-as-of-september-1/

 

[Mulli]

Of course, but my statement wasn't based on any hindsight like yours.
I had been begging for Brooks prior and during the draft.

I am sorry, but for the life of me I dont understand how a guy who projects as decent depth in a best case scenario should be valued over the best punter to come out of college in years. Brooks' #s last year were better than both of the starting punters in the PB! STs has been KILLING us for years. To think that we could have greatly improved that 1/3 of our team game, with a 6th round pick and chose not to do so boggles my mind.

Yeah but why did you post this?

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1803088&postcount=23

 

[joeshmo]

The Harrington situation is perplexing. It seemed odd to begin with back at the draft that after already drafting two DEs, they drafted another in Harrington, even though they projected him as an OLB (but didn't typically fit the edge LB mode the Cards look for). There were other good players at other positions of need available in the 6th round...like CB DeJuan Tribble who made San Diego's roster.

However, Harrington played well this pre-season...he was one of the better tacklers on STs and he made plays on the outside stopping the run and then two weeks ago he was in on two sacks versus the Raiders. He seemed to be catching on to the defense rather nicely.

I think we sometimes read way to much into preseason and get to caught up with a few specail plays rather then the whole body of work and the circumstances as a whole. It is why latching on to so called preseaosn hero's can be misleading to the fan. Case in point, the leading rusher this preseason was cut from their team. Coaches see the whole body of work, video with angles we dont have acces to, practices, and so on.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Yeah but why did you post this?

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1803088&postcount=23

That post says the same thing as one of my posts in this thread. I have never said that I would have prefered Harrington over Brooks because I wouldn't. That doesn't mean that I have to hate us picking Harrington. I like the pick, we couild have made many worse ones. It just wasn't my ideal choice.

 

[Mulli]

I was thinking one post says the pick boggles the mind and one says you like the pick. I dunno.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I think we sometimes read way to much into preseason and get to caught up with a few specail plays rather then the whole body of work and the circumstances as a whole. It is why latching on to so called preseaosn hero's can be misleading to the fan. Case in point, the leading rusher this preseason was cut from their team. Coaches see the whole body of work, video with angles we dont have acces to, practices, and so on.

I see your point, but that was a bad example IMO. The Skins were dumb for cutting Mason and he was picked up immediately after being cut. They just didn't want to hold onto 4 RBs. Portis and Betts are no-brainers and Cartwright is depth as well as their return guy.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I was thinking one post says the pick boggles the mind and one says you like the pick. I dunno.

I said choosing him over brooks boggled my mind, now you're just putting words in my mouth.

 

[joeshmo]

I see your point, but that was a bad example IMO. The Skins were dumb for cutting Mason and he was picked up immediately after being cut. They just didn't want to hold onto 4 RBs. Portis and Betts are no-brainers and Cartwright is depth as well as their return guy.

Cartwright is not a backup RB for them. Dont think he has even ever ran the ball for them. He is a kick return man and nothing else.

Point is people point to Mason being the leading preseason rusher without looking at the complete body of work. 66 rushing attempts without a single TD. Inside the red zone he had troubles. Horrible blocker. So the point is people tend to only focus on one thing rather then the body of work.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Cartwright is not a backup RB for them. Dont think he has even ever ran the ball for them. He is a kick return man and nothing else.

Point is people point to Mason being the leading preseason rusher without looking at the complete body of work. 66 rushing attempts without a single TD. Inside the red zone he had troubles. Horrible blocker. So the point is people tend to only focus on one thing rather then the body of work.

Cartwright is definitely a RB and has actually started games for the skins at RB.

As far as Mason goes, I see your point even better now.

 

[Skkorpion]

We all see different things. I saw Keilen Dykes play well, posted it here on ASFN and am not at all surprised he's on the practice squad.

Then I read here, from some posters whose opinions I respect, that he showed nothing in pre-season. Huh? It's simple, really. Action is too fast, nobody is scheming, some players blow assignments, making others look bad.

We are not privy to the assignments and can't see game tapes. The coaches do. I'm glad Dykes made the PS because Watson isn't back yet and I still don't see enough out of Alan Branch to make me want to share a foxhole with him.

 

[ajcardfan]

We all see different things. I saw Keilen Dykes play well, posted it here on ASFN and am not at all surprised he's on the practice squad.

Then I read here, from some posters whose opinions I respect, that he showed nothing in pre-season. Huh? It's simple, really. Action is too fast, nobody is scheming, some players blow assignments, making others look bad.

We are not privy to the assignments and can't see game tapes. The coaches do. I'm glad Dykes made the PS because Watson isn't back yet and I still don't see enough out of Alan Branch to make me want to share a foxhole with him.

Well, we are certainly short of bodies to take reps at those positions in practice. It might not be any more complicated than that. After all, it is the "practice" squad.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I said choosing him over brooks boggled my mind, now you're just putting words in my mouth.

Just getting the facts straight. We could not get him with our #6 pick because he was gone already. We would have had to have used our #5 which we used on Hightower. By the way I believe Brooks was released by Redskins.

Brooks was chosen with pick #168

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durant_Brooks

Harrington was chosen with pick #185

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=35682

 

[cardsfanmd]

Just getting the facts straight. We could not get him with our #6 pick because he was gone already. We would have had to have used our #5 which we used on Hightower. By the way I believe Brooks was released by Redskins.

Brooks was chosen with pick #168

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durant_Brooks

Harrington was chosen with pick #185

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=35682

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1805617&postcount=26

 

[BullheadCardFan]

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1805617&postcount=26

I was just getting the facts straight. I couldn't remember either.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I was just getting the facts straight. I couldn't remember either.

From what I've seen and heard, we have a major steal in Brandon Keith, so who needs sixth rounders anyway??

 

[BullheadCardFan]

From what I've seen and heard, we have a major steal in Brandon Keith, so who needs sixth rounders anyway??

Totally agree. I really like Keith and to get him with a 7th is great. And Ali as a UDFA is another great move by the FO.

Now if we could just find a punter ..................

 

[joeshmo]

Cartwright is definitely a RB and has actually started games for the skins at RB.

Hasnt started a game since 2003. Has touched the ball on offense a total of 38 times the last 4 seasons. He is without a doubt not a part of their offensive plans.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Hasnt started a game since 2003. Has touched the ball on offense a total of 38 times the last 4 seasons. He is without a doubt not a part of their offensive plans.

How many 3rd string RBs are a part of an offensive gameplan?? You said he wasn't a RB, I just pointed out that he was. I never said he was a catalyst.

 

[JeffGollin]

Urban Helps De-mystify Our PS Moves

Watson isn't ready yet and Branch couldn't practice yesterday. Johnson won't play, and Sendlein remains nicked.

Which may explain why we kept both Banks and Dykes on the PS (we may need one or both of them) and why we kept Pat Ross.

Urban observed that, once we start getting some of these guys back, we could then make a few more moves - including putting Harrington back on the PS.

If neither Harrington or Keyes was signed by another team, it's quite possible they've been quietly advised by the Cards to "stay cool" - it may take another week; or it maybe it will take 2 or 3 weeks, but as soon as some of our guys get healthy, we'll put you on the PS. (Then it becomes a matter of whether they want to be a Cardinal, whether they trust Cardinal management or are willing to pass on any addtional offers from other teams while they wait).