Projection of First 50 picks; Cardinal Mock

[DaisyCutter]

Srewart could fill the speed back role this year before taking over next year. I would imagine Stewart would look like speedracer compared to Edge.

I totally agree about that. But I don't personally believe that Stewart + Justin King/Tracy Porter > Michael Jenkins/DRC + Ray Rice/Jamaal Charles.

I don't believe that Jonathan Stewart is the kind of special talent that obligates a team to avoid more pressing needs. I thought that Adrian Peterson was (I thought that Peterson was a better prospect than Reggie Bush, FWIW), but you get a prospect like Stewart in nearly every draft, and they almost always go off the board after the first 15 picks.

I'm more interested in Stewart than I am in guys like Felix Jones or Chris Johnson. I have Stewart "graded out" about the same as the cornerbacks. I wouldn't be disappointed if the Cards drafted him. At all.

But I don't think this team needs to replace Edge James as much as complement him, and can still find another back next season who can carry the load if they need to.

 

[Southpaw]

Malcolm Kelly is a keeper too.

Nope . Big and slow, in the Dwayne Jarrett and Mike Williams mold. He blows.

 

[Redsz]

I personally think it should be the exact opposite. RB in the first and CB in the 2nd.

To me the value between all the CB's is about the same. But there are only a couple of really good RB's. I would much rather see something like Stewart/Cason than DRC/Johnson.

 

[Ryanwb]

Nice work DaisyCutter

 

[DaisyCutter]

I personally think it should be the exact opposite. RB in the first and CB in the 2nd.

To me the value between all the CB's is about the same. But there are only a couple of really good RB's. I would much rather see something like Stewart/Cason than DRC/Johnson.

I would, too. Without question. But I can't see Cason falling to 50th overall, despite what a lot of the latest value boards have. I would do backflips if the Cards managed to get Stewart and Cason without trading picks to get either.

But I don't think that's going to happen, and I think there's a steep dropoff between Cason/Flowers and King/Porter. Right now, I'd probably rather have Porter than King, because I don't think that King's heart is in the right place, and playing in Arizona often fails to fix that problem.

The question becomes, then, whether you'd be willing to give up the Cards third-round pick to move up and get Cason. I'd be real, real iffy about that, because I think the Cards are going to want that third-rounder to get a developmental OT (in what I believe is a deep class) or get a 3rd NT/DE as insurance on Gabe Watson.

 

[ItsInTheCards]

For the record, I would rather have DRC than Stewart, but just wanted to respond.

I just cant get comfortable drafting a guy at 16 from Tennessee State...just cant

the guy might have been great at that level, but thats usually the type of program that you nab guys in the second day.....

while I'm not weary of his kidney condition because it was already nonfunctioning before he had it removed, I have a feeling that with the lack of humidity the hydration factor will be greatly magnified during camp

 

[Skkorpion]

Nice shot at it, Daisy.

Now we need a redo because the Chiefs are refusing to pay Jared Allen's salary demands and I applaud them for it.

Wouldn't that just rearrange draft boards if Allen was traded?

And I thought I just heard on ESPN the Fins might now go defense at #1. Anybody else get that?

 

[WildBB]

Srewart could fill the speed back role this year before taking over next year. I would imagine Stewart would look like speedracer compared to Edge.

That's what I've been saying. He'll be the EVERY DOWN BACK in a year. Why wouldn't they?

 

[WildBB]

16. Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St. See above.

50. Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina. See above.

81. Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas. This physical specimen will need a year to work on his technique, but should be able to compete for the LT position and win it from Mike Gandy in 2009.

112. Jack Williams, CB, Kent St. A sleeper in this draft, Williams provides youth and depth to the Arizona secondary.

141. Nick Hayden, DE, Wisconsin. Hard worker who could eventually develop into an NT. Signing Bryan Robinson did not alleviate the Cards’ need for depth at Defensive End.

176. Anthony Aldridge, WR, Houston. Teeny-tiny WR (5’8”, 170) will have to work a little with strength coach John Lott. But should the Cards turn back to Kurt Warner, Aldridge will quickly become one of his favorite targets.

207. Kirk Barton, OT, OhioState. Barton is a project player that could become the second edition of Reggie Wells. He needs some seasoning, but is an intriguing prospect this late in the draft.

From indications and invites from the FO and where players are projected it indeed could end up like that. Getting Collins in the 3rd would be a steal. And no way Barton makes it into the 7th round. He'll likely be picked by Chicago in the 5th. His dad is the OC there I believe.

But I'll still be very sad passing on Stewart so our rival could swoop him up.

 

[Southpaw]

Nice shot at it, Daisy.

Now we need a redo because the Chiefs are refusing to pay Jared Allen's salary demands and I applaud them for it.

Wouldn't that just rearrange draft boards if Allen was traded?

And I thought I just heard on ESPN the Fins might now go defense at #1. Anybody else get that?

South Florida sports radio is spouting the line that the Dolphin braintrust blew it yesterday and leaked out they are taking Chris Long, DE, . Don't know if that is a ploy or a real gaffe by Jeff Ireland.

 

[Redsz]

He went bright red when he said it. Not sure you can fake that.

 

[Shane]

South Florida sports radio is spouting the line that the Dolphin braintrust blew it yesterday and leaked out they are taking Chris Long, DE, . Don't know if that is a ploy or a real gaffe by Jeff Ireland.

I dont see how its a gaffe. If thats the guy you want and you have the #1 pick it really doesnt matter who knows or for how long they know. Nobody can sweep him out from under you when you are sitting #1

 

[az jam]

Nice job Daisy. DRC will be a good choice for the Cards if he is on the board when they choose. I also like Johnson in the 2nd, he is the fastest player in the draft.

 

[ItsInTheCards]

South Florida sports radio is spouting the line that the Dolphin braintrust blew it yesterday and leaked out they are taking Chris Long, DE, . Don't know if that is a ploy or a real gaffe by Jeff Ireland.

actually, I think that Long is a ruse as well. I think Parcells and Jeff really covet Gholston, who probably reminds him of Ware

 

[DaisyCutter]

From indications and invites from the FO and where players are projected it indeed could end up like that. Getting Collins in the 3rd would be a steal. And no way Barton makes it into the 7th round. He'll likely be picked by Chicago in the 5th. His dad is the OC there I believe.

But I'll still be very sad passing on Stewart so our rival could swoop him up.

Even if Chicago takes a OT in the first round? Also, I thought that Ron Turner was their OC (Oh, he is: http://www.nfl.com/teams/chicagobears/coaches?coaType=head&team=CHI).
Also, Barton isn't listed anywhere in the TSN draft guide. He's ranked very low on TheHuddleReport's value board. He's not listed as the 12-best OT and 142nd prospect overall on ESPN.com/Scouts, Inc's board. I don't know.

 

[slanidrac16]

I agree with your position about Whiz not throwing to backs. I don't think that should keep us from drafting Stewart. Hell, we have seen JJ line up at WR a few times last year.

Besides, when you have Fitz and Boldin catching passes, he (James or Stewart) should always be a 3rd option anyway.

For the record, I would rather have DRC than Stewart, but just wanted to respond.

Don't blame Whiz for not throwing to the backs. That falls on our QB's. It drove me absolutely crazy last year watching Warner try to force a ball 15 or 20 yds downfield as I'm watching Edge wide open in the flat waving his hands.
It was on more than just a few occasions. I know Edge isn't going to take a pass in the flat and go 60 yards with it. But all too often a opass was incomplete or intercepted when a simple outlet pass would have gained an EASY 8 to 10 yards or more.

I'll agree I would like to see more designed plays to get the ball to a back, but the opportunities were there last year that we just failed to take advantage of.

 

[DaisyCutter]

Don't blame Whiz for not throwing to the backs. That falls on our QB's. It drove me absolutely crazy last year watching Warner try to force a ball 15 or 20 yds downfield as I'm watching Edge wide open in the flat waving his hands.

But Whis's offense didn't work the ball to backs in Pittsburgh, either. That's one of the reasons why I think that it's the system, not necessarily the quarterback.

Warner never had a problem throwing to Faulk in the Greatest Show On Turf days (80+ receptions every year from 1999 though 2002).

 

[football karma]

Don't blame Whiz for not throwing to the backs. That falls on our QB's. It drove me absolutely crazy last year watching Warner try to force a ball 15 or 20 yds downfield as I'm watching Edge wide open in the flat waving his hands.
It was on more than just a few occasions. I know Edge isn't going to take a pass in the flat and go 60 yards with it. But all too often a opass was incomplete or intercepted when a simple outlet pass would have gained an EASY 8 to 10 yards or more.

I'll agree I would like to see more designed plays to get the ball to a back, but the opportunities were there last year that we just failed to take advantage of.

I do know that taking the dump off when stuff down field isnt there is one of the things that Haley had been riding Warner about --