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Who should start 2008?

  • Warner

    Votes: 59 67.0%
  • Leinart

    Votes: 29 33.0%

  • Total voters
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We have to win those first 2 games if we are going to chalenge Seattle n my opinion. The last half of the schedule is too tough to be losing to teams u are supposed to spank

Ditto that.

And really, the season hinges on that first game. That was true last season and the same holds true this year.
 

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Until Saturday night, Leinart, with Warner running the no-huddle offense.

Now, reluctantly I have to go with Kurt. Matt has not looked sharp in the games, excluding the fantastic performance versus the Saints.
 

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At some point we have to struggle through our growing pains with Leinart. I'd rather get that done sooner than later, even though I think Warner is the better QB right now.

...at least he isn't demanding to have his contract re-done!! :)
 

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At some point we have to struggle through our growing pains with Leinart. I'd rather get that done sooner than later, even though I think Warner is the better QB right now.

...at least he isn't demanding to have his contract re-done!! :)
give it time
 

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Either. I really could not care less which one of them starts. They each have their pros and cons, and we'll be fine with either.

I'm ok going with a guy who is in the twilight of his great career and won't be the future at the position. But I'm also ok with expecting growing pains in a QB. I don't expect either to play perfectly. We aren't winning the Super Bowl this year with either of them, so meh...I'm more excited to see the running game come along.
 

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Leinart. We need to know now if we have a QBOF or need to get one. Warner is a short term fix that may or may not do what he did last year. He has the ability, like many others, to be 2 different QB's. A world beater or a loser.

Agreed.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy the "Now Or Never" mantra. This team is still very young by and large, and it sure would be nice to at least see if Leinart is CAPABLE of being QB of the Future.

For those against Leinart, feeling he's a bust already, I have several points for you:

A) The late Bill Walsh once said it takes 32 starts to discover what you have in a QB. Leinart's started 16 over the course of his first two seasons. In the 11 games he was given uncontested (2006) he showed more than enough flashes of proof that he's capable of being a very good starter in the NFL level. Last season was a joke.. How can you even BEGIN to show development when your coach seems to want to play musical chairs every down, trying to employ some gimmick BS like it's the Barnum and Bailey freakin Circus?

B) In his first 3 seasons as a pro, Peyton Manning threw 58 Interceptions. Yes, he put up an assload of yards and very good TD numbers for someone of his age and supporting cast, but 58 interceptions is a pretty big number.

Rookies struggle. That's the common factor. If you're expecting Matt Leinart to get in there and turn in to Dan Marino, it was never going to happen.
 

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ALSO, it takes the pressure off Matt, who didn't seem to handle it very well, at least not at the Raiders game. Gives him some time to step back and see if he really wants it or not. Plus if he has to be used, it will be without Warner breathing down his neck.
You should be very afraid Rugby, you're actually agreeing with ME now! I've said from the day Whis announced it, Leinart would be better off psychologically as the underdog. Combining the pressure of holding onto the #1 spot, re-learning his footwork/mechanics, re-habbing his injury, still learning the system and re-establishing(establishing?) timing and rhythm with the receivers is just too much to ask when there isn't full support from the team, coach, fans and media. If Warner was say, Tony Banks, then there's no polarization of opinions.

Whenever there's a QB controversy both QB's, the team and it's fans all lose. Even if Warner is named the starter he'll have to look over his shoulder as well and every error he makes will be over-scrutinized by those that think it would be better for the team to deal with errors by the young guy. Warner won't be able to play "his game" and the problems will become self-fulfilling. Hopefully one of them can rise above it but it's really not the "good problem to have" that some consider it to be.
 
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You should be very afraid Rugby, you're actually agreeing with ME now! I've said from the day Whis announced it, Leinart would be better off psychologically as the underdog. Combining the pressure of holding onto the #1 spot, re-learning his footwork/mechanics, re-habbing his injury, still learning the system and re-establishing(establishing?) timing and rhythm with the receivers is just too much to ask when there isn't full support from the team, coach, fans and media. If Warner was say, Tony Banks, then there's no polarization of opinions.

Whenever there's a QB controversy both QB's, the team and it's fans all lose. Even if Warner is named the starter he'll have to look over his shoulder as well and every error he makes will be over-scrutinized by those that think it would be better for the team to deal with errors by the young guy. Warner won't be able to play "his game" and the problems will become self-fulfilling. Hopefully one of them can rise above it but it's really not the "good problem to have" that some consider it to be.

I don't have my pimp outfit on yet.

Just my stupid little opinion.
 

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In his first 3 seasons as a pro, Peyton Manning threw 58 Interceptions. Yes, he put up an assload of yards and very good TD numbers for someone of his age and supporting cast, but 58 interceptions is a pretty big number.
I agree that young QB's benefit from playing time but it just doesn't guarantee improvement or is it even required. But, Manning is a bad comparison. His rookie year the backups were Mike Quinn(3 career attempts) and Kelly Holcomb(1 TD 8 INT in '97--didn't throw another pass until 2001(!)) so there was no debate about who was going to play and who the best option was. By his second year, Manning was in the pro-bowl and the Colts were 13-3 and in the playoffs. By his third year, he led the league in TD had reduced his interceptions(%) for the third year in a row as well as increased his TD's(%), was in the pro-bowl again and the Colts were in the playoffs again. To just say "he had 58 interceptions" is really grasping at a comparison. On top of all that, the most important thing if there was a comparison between Manning and Leinart is that Manning never missed a game. 48 starts in 48 games. Leinart has 17 appearances out of 32 and missed 13 starts due to injury.
 

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I know I'm flip-flopping a lot, but I'm going to say Leinart. Put him in and keep him in. No short leash, ride or die with him. If he flounders again, we know his career is over and can react accordingly next draft.

I was supporting Warner after Game 3, but I think that would be in error now. Changing QBs back and forth is not going to be good for the team.

If they start Warner now, it's almost tantamount to saying they believe Leinart's career is already over. If that's what they think, then Warner should start and Leinart should be cut loose.

(please forgive the complete lack of football knowledge contained above)
 

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Agreed.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy the "Now Or Never" mantra. This team is still very young by and large, and it sure would be nice to at least see if Leinart is CAPABLE of being QB of the Future.

For those against Leinart, feeling he's a bust already, I have several points for you:

A) The late Bill Walsh once said it takes 32 starts to discover what you have in a QB. Leinart's started 16 over the course of his first two seasons. In the 11 games he was given uncontested (2006) he showed more than enough flashes of proof that he's capable of being a very good starter in the NFL level. Last season was a joke.. How can you even BEGIN to show development when your coach seems to want to play musical chairs every down, trying to employ some gimmick BS like it's the Barnum and Bailey freakin Circus?

B) In his first 3 seasons as a pro, Peyton Manning threw 58 Interceptions. Yes, he put up an assload of yards and very good TD numbers for someone of his age and supporting cast, but 58 interceptions is a pretty big number.

Rookies struggle. That's the common factor. If you're expecting Matt Leinart to get in there and turn in to Dan Marino, it was never going to happen.

*applause*

I especially agree with the buffoonery that is the Musical QB idea. Ok in the short term, disastrous in the long-term.
 

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I voted for Warner. I was in the Leinart camp but the way the defense played, the depth we seem to have, and the weopons we have I just think Warner gives us the best chance to win today.

This does not mean Leinarts career is over. In addition to that , Matty boy better keep his head up and be ready because his day could come before you can say Warner fumbled again.
 

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Before Whiz has his say.

Let's put our 2 cents in on the subject.


Who do you think should start 2008 ?


You can also vote at NFL.com!
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Another good question might be: Which QB gives us the best chance of making the playoffs?

Seems some people are willing to acknowledge Warner has the best chance of getting us to the playoffs but still want Matt to start to see if he can win or not. Personally I am not ready to risk the season to see what Matt can do. He is still young and still can play next year when perhaps Warner cannot. I want to win NOW. Next season will take care of itself and who knows what next season will bring?
 

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Love the change of attitude. All it took is one game.

As much as I love the Cards, I have a feeling that this year is going to be harder to stomach in there than most.
 

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