QB and OTs

[john h]

Lets cut to the chase. Come the draft next year and we are drafting #9 or #10. There is a real good looking OT available to us and a good looking QB (not a sure fire thing like Luck but a guy like Tanneyhill, Taylor). Who do you draft? Lets also add that the OT is rated the 8th best pick and the QB is the 9th best pick.

 

[TJ]

Not a great draft for tackles. This past draft was the year to beef up the line. Barret Jones from Alabama and Luke Joeckel (sp) from TA&M are the best bets if we're picking in the middle of the draft.

 

[A fan who cares]

Not a great draft for tackles. This past draft was the year to beef up the line. Barret Jones from Alabama and Luke Joeckel (sp) from TA&M are the best bets if we're picking in the middle of the draft.

? I heard that this draft was the year Tackles were going to be deep with talent. I guess they aren't doing that well this year so far.

 

[Bodha]

Barrett Jones is currently the top Oline talent, and I believe he is a G in the NFL.


I would take Chance Warmack (the 2nd best G. Also from Bama). In the 2nd round.

LT and RT are tricky.

The talent in this class is hard to find. Like Jones, for example, has a good chance as being the best LT in the draft ,and yet hes a G.


Brennan Williams, NC, might be a good RT prospect.


Im interested most in Alex Hurst. T, probably RT, from LSU. Powerful dude. He is a run blocker through and through. Good in pass blocking. His biggest issue is technique. But being from the SEC, he faces NFL talent daily. So thats a big ups.

 

[Chopper0080]

Not a great draft for tackles. This past draft was the year to beef up the line. Barret Jones from Alabama and Luke Joeckel (sp) from TA&M are the best bets if we're picking in the middle of the draft.

OTs
Luke Joeckel - Texas A&M
Taylor Lewan - Michigan
Jake Matthews - Texas A&M

Barrett Jones is the 2nd best offensive linemen at Alabama behind Chance Warmack and would arguably be the 3rd best OG in this draft behind Warmach and UNC's Johnathan Cooper. Also Jones plays OC for the Crimson Tide.

As for the OT, you take the QB, no question about it. If I am the Cardinals, I would take Tyler Wilson over any other player in this draft other than possibly Geno Smith. We need a QB that bad.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I would take a freaking guard right now over a QB, and that is something I thought I never would say but I have never seen a OL as bad as ours either at the moment

 

[THESMEL]

Its the game plan sillys - can't play passem in the NFL. We have 3 rookies in the rotation- can't keep opening the door and checking the oven- we is what we is-
skelton can make the tosses - If we can survive until The Bean is back.

 

[Goldfield]

A good qb is worth more than an olinemen. But I think Kolb can be solid if we had a good line. If its a qb you love you have to take him otherwise you fix that freakin line.

 

[Bodha]

A good qb is worth more than an olinemen. But I think Kolb can be solid if we had a good line. If its a qb you love you have to take him otherwise you fix that freakin line.

Im willing to move forward with Kolb if we had an Oline.


2013 Draft: Oline or No Line.

 

[52brandon]

if it's a LT, ABSOLUTELY the tackle. I think Levi can still play RT if Massie doesn't develop. Hopefully Massie develops and we can give Levi a shot at G, where many members feel he would be a stud

LT is our #1 priority, and if BPA also happens to be a LT, We BETTER jump on him

 

[Snakester]

I would make our first two picks O-line then our next two D-line. Don't want either of the Bama linemen . Would take either of the Texas A&M tackles.

 

[52brandon]

A good qb is worth more than an olinemen. But I think Kolb can be solid if we had a good line. If its a qb you love you have to take him otherwise you fix that freakin line.

only if there's good talent on the line that should be available in the other rounds. Otherwise, I don't see the purpose in spending a 1st round pick to get a talented kid killed. I'd rather trade our pick for more later picks if there's not a LT valued that high

 

[Buckybird]

Its the game plan sillys - can't play passem in the NFL.

Yeah whatever! Our Olines sucks because of the HC & the play calling
If a guy can't somewhat play decent in pass pro in the NFL he has no business being in the league...just sayin.

 

[52brandon]

Yeah whatever! Our Olines sucks because of the HC & the play calling
If a guy can't somewhat play decent in pass pro in the NFL he has no business being in the league...just sayin.

if Leinart was taking snaps our line would be better

 

[Bodha]

if it's a LT, ABSOLUTELY the tackle. I think Levi can still play RT if Massie doesn't develop. Hopefully Massie develops and we can give Levi a shot at G, where many members feel he would be a stud

LT is our #1 priority, and if BPA also happens to be a LT, We BETTER jump on him

I disagree. We need to be focused on Oline, but go BPA. Doesnt matter if its a T, C or G. Considering the talent, theres a 90% itll be a Guard. Lot of good ones this year.

Yes, we need a LT, but going after one, drafting purely on need, is how we ended up with Levi.

BPA
BPA
BPA

If it happens to be a LT, Awesome.

If its a G. Take him.

Yes, our T positions are epic bad. But dont forget Snyder MUST be replaced. Hes the worst G in the NFL. So drafting a star G will also be a major win for us.

I would make our first two picks O-line then our next two D-line. Don't want either of the Bama linemen . Would take either of the Texas A&M tackles.

Those 2 T's from TT are overrated IMO. IF either one is the BPA, then fine. But dont go after either one.

Whats wrong with Bama linemen? IDC either way. Talent is talent, it just sounds like you have a thing against bama in general.


Why 2 picks on D line?

D line is arguably our deepest position. We need 4 Olineman (because we also need to draft some depth). A Safety. Maybe another CB. Possibly a RB since RW and BEanie cant stay healthy. Maybe a QB. ILB and OLB.

We have so many needs, why take a DT at all? Dan, Eason, Carter, CC, Dockett, Vonnie. The last thing we should do is take a D lineman.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Take the QB, especially if it's Wilson. My second choice would be Warmack. For as much love as DeCastro received last year, Warmack is better. He starts from day 1 and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a pro bowler by year 2. I'm not an advocate of taking OG's early but he's a good as anyone in a long time.

I didn't get to see how Joekel held up against LSU yesterday. If anybody saw, how'd he do? He'd be the only OT viable in the top 10.

If the Cards are drafting that high, there will some DE/OLB types that are in the mix as well. There are some talented guys at that position this year and, going BPA, they'd have to be in the mix. I mean if Sam Montgomery and Tyler Lewan are sitting there at 10, would you really want to take Lewan over Montgomery(assuming QB's are gone)?

 

[BigRedArk]

OTs
Luke Joeckel - Texas A&M
Taylor Lewan - Michigan
Jake Matthews - Texas A&M

Barrett Jones is the 2nd best offensive linemen at Alabama behind Chance Warmack and would arguably be the 3rd best OG in this draft behind Warmach and UNC's Johnathan Cooper. Also Jones plays OC for the Crimson Tide.

As for the OT, you take the QB, no question about it. If I am the Cardinals, I would take Tyler Wilson over any other player in this draft other than possibly Geno Smith. We need a QB that bad.

Agree on taking the QB over the OT.

If we do that though there are 4 QB's on the Roster? Someone has to go. Who do you let go and do you get anything in return for him?

Also, why do we want to reach for an OT next year and pass up a potential good QB for the foreseeable future? How did that work for us when we reached for an OT and passed on Adrian Peterson? With Peterson, think of the stability and increased production we could have gotten out of the RB position.

Hopefully Levi Brown can come back and play at least to the same level as he did last year. Also we have Nate Potter on the roster now and he may develop at the least into a quality backup OT, if not an eventual good OT.

 

[sundevil04]

So many tempting names in this draft that would help this team that are not Ol, but how do we NOT address OL in rd1 or AT LEAST RD2?.

Qb - Tyler Wilson- If he's there I don't see how he's not the pick
Qb - Tyler Bray - if he comes out
SOLB - Mante Tao - perfect fit to take over for Paris Lenon

 

[vinnymac]

Team needs next season in this order
Offensive Tackle for obvious reason
Runningback that can stay healthy
qb (only if they are going to draft him in the first or second round. Other than that Kolb and Skelton will do.

Also going to need a defensive cordinator. Horton more than likly will be a head coach next season. He has done an awesome job with the Cardinals.

 

[slanidrac16]

If we wait for the draft to shore up the offensive line then we are completely incompetent.

Go out in free agency and get an epxerienced decent OT. Don't forget we have Brown coming back.

After seeing Luck and RGIII I would be happy to see us draft a qb. That being said I don't know much about the prospects coming out next year.

The defense is good. Lord knows we have the weopons on offense. Wells and Williams will both be back and hopefully one can stay healthy.

Oh, and if we do draft a qb I want to hear he is "accurate" and preferably mobile. What I don't want to hear is project.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

So many tempting names in this draft that would help this team that are not Ol, but how do we NOT address OL in rd1 or AT LEAST RD2?.

Qb - Tyler Wilson- If he's there I don't see how he's not the pick
Qb - Tyler Bray - if he comes out
SOLB - Mante Tao - perfect fit to take over for Paris Lenon

we already have Tyler Bray in John Skelton. Unfortunately, you may be right because he seems to fit the QB mold Whiz has brought in over the years. Taking Bray over Wilson would be a huge mistake.

 

[nooch]

Like most of you Tyler Wilson would be my choice if he's available. But the line has to be addressed at some point.

If Wilson is gone, and Kolb comes back this year and manages the game like he did early this year. I try to rework his deal and go after a Tackle like Taylor Lewan.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664410

I think he's a very good fit here. Great size, former DT with a mean streak and a nasty attitude on the field. Looks to be a leader as well. Might have issues with technique and penalties. Fixable issues for a coaching staff (insert Grimm joke here).

Slide Levi back to the right side, have Massie off the bench, or cross train him at gaurd and battle it out with Snyder and Kelemete. I think this one move could fix a whole lot of issues.

Depending on where in the 1st he is slotted, might even be able to slide back a bit and pick up extra picks.