QB John Skelton Signs Four-Year Deal

Buckybird

Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
Joined
Nov 11, 2002
Posts
25,296
Reaction score
6,310
Location
Dallas, TX
If Leinart doesn't have a very good season to justify a restructuring next offseason, we better pray that Skelton is as good as many on this board felt he could be before being drafted!!!
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,291
Reaction score
14,397
If Leinart doesn't have a very good season to justify a restructuring next offseason, we better pray that Skelton is as good as many on this board felt he could be before being drafted!!!

maybe I have caught some Mitch-itis, but I have this feeling that Max Hall might turn out to be the better qB prospect
 

Buckybird

Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
Joined
Nov 11, 2002
Posts
25,296
Reaction score
6,310
Location
Dallas, TX
maybe I have caught some Mitch-itis, but I have this feeling that Max Hall might turn out to be the better qB prospect

You might be right, but I really believe if the Redbirds put him on the PS he will be picked up by someone. :bang: Do the Cards keep 4 QB's?
 

binkar

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Dec 24, 2002
Posts
2,672
Reaction score
52
maybe I have caught some Mitch-itis, but I have this feeling that Max Hall might turn out to be the better qB prospect

I sure hope not... Max tended to urinate down his leg in most big games.
 

TJ

Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Joined
Apr 2, 2005
Posts
35,159
Reaction score
21,468
Location
South Bay
You might be right, but I really believe if the Redbirds put him on the PS he will be picked up by someone. :bang: Do the Cards keep 4 QB's?

Doubt it. Seems like Whis likes to stock the PS fridge with DLs OLs and LBs.
 

JAB

Veteran
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Apr 21, 2010
Posts
379
Reaction score
0
Location
San Antonio Texas
155. Arizona Cardinals - John Skelton, QB, Fordham - Signed (4-years, $1.972M; ~$182,000 signing bonus)
 

Dayman

ASFN Addict
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
Posts
6,235
Reaction score
8,259
Location
Portland, Oregon
It's cool to have a #3 QB with the potential to improved. Even if he just develops into a capable backup, he'll be a bargain on this contract.

Welcome to AZ, John.
 

JeffGollin

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
20,472
Reaction score
3,056
Location
Holmdel, NJ
maybe I have caught some Mitch-itis, but I have this feeling that Max Hall might turn out to be the better qB prospect
In Hall and Skelton, you're dealing with 2 contrasting styles:

Skelton's the prototypical big guy with the cannon.

Hall's the smaller, mobile "cagey guy."

History has shown that either kind of guy can make it.

Question is - Given the current make-up of the Cardinal roster, the surrounding offensive cast and the style of football the coaches want to go with, can both QB's excel within that system and which of the two guys is likely to be the better?

I've often wondered what our offense would be like if led by a Jeff Garcia/Rich Gannon/Matt Hasselbeck type of QB. Last preseason, I thought Tyler Palko (who seemed to fit that mold) moved the team best of all the backups; yet - within the system and the players we had, the coaches evidently felt that his style of play wasn't good enough to get the job done.

Final point - We're dealing with question-marks here. Both Leinart and Anderson rode the pines for a while, and we don't have a recent body of work for either to know how much (if anything) they've learned or how much (if at all) they've improved. But that's a far cry from writing either of them off altogether - it's equally likely that they'll be fine as it is that they might fail. (Both have enough upside for us to get hopeful and excited about, so let's let the preseason play itself out without passing judgment prematurely).
 

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
The thing that sold me on John Skelton was the way he handled himself and the way he performed on the ESPN Draft Special. The fact that he has been staying on in Arizona to try to learn the playbook is another indication that this kid has his eyes on the brass rings. Hey, he could easily concede that he won't play much this year, if at all, so why not just go on vacation like almost everyone else? The answer is: this kid wants to get after it and he is taking nothing for granted. This approach is Fitz-esque. Man, it's just great to see the improved attitude of the Cardinals' players. They have reacted so well to Whiz, Lott and the coaching staff and at this point have taken the ownership of responsibility.

Watching all the QBs this pre-season will be very interesting. While Whiz will run the ball more in the regular season than he did last year, he will try to shape up the passing game in the pre-season in order to learn what he has in Leinart, Anderson, Skelton and Hall...and what kind of rhythm and chemistry they can generate with the WRs.
 

lobo

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Feb 16, 2006
Posts
3,310
Reaction score
230
Location
Inverness, Il
The thing that sold me on John Skelton was the way he handled himself and the way he performed on the ESPN Draft Special. The fact that he has been staying on in Arizona to try to learn the playbook is another indication that this kid has his eyes on the brass rings. Hey, he could easily concede that he won't play much this year, if at all, so why not just go on vacation like almost everyone else? The answer is: this kid wants to get after it and he is taking nothing for granted. This approach is Fitz-esque. Man, it's just great to see the improved attitude of the Cardinals' players. They have reacted so well to Whiz, Lott and the coaching staff and at this point have taken the ownership of responsibility.

Watching all the QBs this pre-season will be very interesting. While Whiz will run the ball more in the regular season than he did last year, he will try to shape up the passing game in the pre-season in order to learn what he has in Leinart, Anderson, Skelton and Hall...and what kind of rhythm and chemistry they can generate with the WRs.


Well done of course...a few points...not too many kids over 6'5" from Texas wind up at Fordham unless they want to be Jesuit Priests.....Maybe some Vince Lombardi magic dust rubbed off on John...that is where Vince went too.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,648
Reaction score
30,408
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Some quick down-to-earth analysis on Skelton from FootballOutsiders' new annual:

John Skelton, ARI: Because of his ideal size (6-foot-6, 243 pounds) and raw arm strength, Skelton got a lot of press as an under-the-radar quarterback sleeper before the draft. He ended up dropping to the fifth round,
though, where Arizona picked him up. Why did he drop? Well, because he’s not all that good; he completed 59
percent of his passes at Fordham, and he was the first-team all-Patriot League quarterback exactly once. Guys
who play in lesser conferences need to scorch earth, not merely play pretty well.

He's going to look excellent on the sideline. The over/under on Mitch wondering allowed why Skelton isn't getting a shot as the starter or in sub packages is Week 12.
 

Cbus cardsfan

Back to Back ASFN FFL Champion
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
21,513
Reaction score
7,785
Some quick down-to-earth analysis on Skelton from FootballOutsiders' new annual:



He's going to look excellent on the sideline. The over/under on Mitch wondering allowed why Skelton isn't getting a shot as the starter or in sub packages is Week 12.
if he ever sees the field as a 5th round drafted QB, you would have to consider the pick a success. If he's even around in 3-4 years then, maybe, you may start to consider some PT possibilities.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,648
Reaction score
30,408
Location
Gilbert, AZ
if he ever sees the field as a 5th round drafted QB, you would have to consider the pick a success. If he's even around in 3-4 years then, maybe, you may start to consider some PT possibilities.

10 Years of 5th round QBs:

Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
John David Booty
Josh Johnson
Eric Ainge
Dennis Dixon
Jeff Rowe
Troy Smith
Ingle Martin
Omar Jacobs
Dan Orlovsky
Adrian McPherson
Craig Krenzel
Brian St. Pierre
Randi Fasani
Kurt Kittner
Brandon Doman
Craig Nall
Mike McMahon
A.J. Feeley
Tee Martin
Kevin Daft

I think that if John Skelton is still on an NFL roster by the end of his contract, that's a pretty good win. Honestly, based on this list, I hope he never sees the field for the Arizona Cardinals.
 

Buckybird

Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
Joined
Nov 11, 2002
Posts
25,296
Reaction score
6,310
Location
Dallas, TX
10 Years of 5th round QBs:

Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
John David Booty
Josh Johnson
Eric Ainge
Dennis Dixon
Jeff Rowe
Troy Smith
Ingle Martin
Omar Jacobs
Dan Orlovsky
Adrian McPherson
Craig Krenzel
Brian St. Pierre
Randi Fasani
Kurt Kittner
Brandon Doman
Craig Nall
Mike McMahon
A.J. Feeley
Tee Martin
Kevin Daft

Thats quite a list of ProBowlers there K9 :D

Doesnt bode well for ole #19, but maybe he will prove all of us wrong.
 

Reddog

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Jan 8, 2003
Posts
2,807
Reaction score
323
Location
Scottsdale
Too bad we didnt wait til the 6th to pick him so we could create the same list of R6 QBs and then hope we got the next Tom Brady. He is a project but you cant teach 6'6" 243lbs, So he has that going for him. It will be fun to see where he ends up.
10 Years of 5th round QBs:

Rhett Bomar
Nate Davis
John David Booty
Josh Johnson
Eric Ainge
Dennis Dixon
Jeff Rowe
Troy Smith
Ingle Martin
Omar Jacobs
Dan Orlovsky
Adrian McPherson
Craig Krenzel
Brian St. Pierre
Randi Fasani
Kurt Kittner
Brandon Doman
Craig Nall
Mike McMahon
A.J. Feeley
Tee Martin
Kevin Daft

I think that if John Skelton is still on an NFL roster by the end of his contract, that's a pretty good win. Honestly, based on this list, I hope he never sees the field for the Arizona Cardinals.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,648
Reaction score
30,408
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Too bad we didnt wait til the 6th to pick him so we could create the same list of R6 QBs and then hope we got the next Tom Brady. He is a project but you cant teach 6'6" 243lbs, So he has that going for him. It will be fun to see where he ends up.

Are you serious? Ten years of 6th round QBs:

Colt Brennan
Andre' Woodson
Jordan Palmer
Reggie McNeal
Bruce Gradkowski
Derek Anderson
Andy Hall
Josh Harris
Jim Sorgi
Jeff Smoker
Drew Henson
Brooks Bollinger
Kliff Kingsbury
J.T. O'Sullivan
Steve Bellisari
Josh Booty
Josh Heupel
Marc Bulger
Spergon Wynn
Tom Brady
Todd Husak
JaJuan Seider

Still like those odds? Maybe if you picked a 6th round QB every year, once every 12 years you'd find an above-average starter.
 
Top