QB's to keep?

[BigRedRage]

What would you do?

Personally I say cut Anderson, keep lienart, hall and skelton.

We HAVE to give Lienart a chance this year as he makes too much next year and we need to know whether to extend him or cut him after the year. Next year if hes gone, have a vet compete vs hall and skelton.

It is not impossible to groom rookies to start early and they both showed the ability to move the chains and get things done.

I feel Anderson is nothing but a stop gap and how the rookies are performing we should let him go rather than lose one of our youngins to another team.

 

[Zeno]

As much as I don't think Anderson is anything but an inconsistent/inaccurate QB no way do I want Leinart backed up by a rookie who played QB at Fordham or an undrafted rookie. They are going against 3rd & 4th stringers right now--most of who will either be on the street, in Arena football or some lucky enough to be on practice squads. Put them up against real NFLers running other than vanilla defenses and it could get ugly very quickly.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Matt is the starter.

Anderson has experience. No way they don't keep him.

After sending McFadden to Pitt in order to select Skelton, he is a lock to make the team.

Hall may be put on the PS.

 

[BigRedRage]

What you have to take in account is that if we cut one of these rookies, there is a 90% chance they go elsewhere and do not make it on our practise squad. Keep them now or lose them forever.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

What you have to take in account is that if we cut one of these rookies, there is a 90% chance they go elsewhere and do not make it on our practise squad. Keep them now or lose them forever.

They should drop Matt now, keep Anderson and the rook's!

 

[Zeno]

What you have to take in account is that if we cut one of these rookies, there is a 90% chance they go elsewhere and do not make it on our practise squad. Keep them now or lose them forever.

Big deal with Hall and to be honest it's like a 90% chance he doesn't get signed to another teams active roster.

Here are the teams that drafted Qbs in 2010 (they all could have picked Hall)..
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
Carolina Panthers (X2)
Cleveland Browns
Philadelphia Eagles
San Diego Chargers
Tennessee Titans
Chicago Bears
Buffalo Bills
New Orleans Saints
New England Patriots
You can eliminate all of them (thats 11 teams or 1/3rd)

Here are the teams that drafted a QB in 2009
Detroit Lions
NY Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Miami Dolphins
Dallas Cowboys
NY Giants
San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Indianapolis Colts
New England Patriots

Thats 12 teams, 3 of which drafted a QB in '10 too meaning 20 teams drafted a QB in the past 2 seasons(21 if you count AZ). Also nearly every team signed an undrafted rookie this offseason.

The teams left would be Baltimore, Cincy, Houston, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Oakland, Washington, Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota.

What team would Hall have a legitimate shot at sticking on their 53 man roster?

Not Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington, Cincy and somehow I don't think he is an Al Davis type of QB. So maybe Jacksonville, Kansas City(he'd have to beat out Palko), Houston (he'd have to beat out JD Booty) or Green Bay.

Seriously all this talk about him being snatched away is kinda silly considering every team in the league had a chance to spend a late round pick on him and has since moved on.

 

[BigRedRage]

They should drop Matt now, keep Anderson and the rook's!

why keep Derek? How can you possibly be behind him and want our entire future to ride on him?

 

[BigRedRage]

Big deal with Hall and to be honest it's like a 90% chance he doesn't get signed to another teams active roster.

Here are the teams that drafted Qbs in 2010 (they all could have picked Hall)..
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
Carolina Panthers (X2)
Cleveland Browns
Philadelphia Eagles
San Diego Chargers
Tennessee Titans
Chicago Bears
Buffalo Bills
New Orleans Saints
New England Patriots
You can eliminate all of them (thats 11 teams or 1/3rd)

Here are the teams that drafted a QB in 2009
Detroit Lions
NY Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Miami Dolphins
Dallas Cowboys
NY Giants
San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Indianapolis Colts
New England Patriots

Thats 12 teams, 3 of which drafted a QB in '10 too meaning 20 teams drafted a QB in the past 2 seasons(21 if you count AZ). Also nearly every team signed an undrafted rookie this offseason.

The teams left would be Baltimore, Cincy, Houston, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Oakland, Washington, Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota.

What team would Hall have a legitimate shot at sticking on their 53 man roster?

Not Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington, Cincy and somehow I don't think he is an Al Davis type of QB. So maybe Jacksonville, Kansas City(he'd have to beat out Palko), Houston (he'd have to beat out JD Booty) or Green Bay.

Seriously all this talk about him being snatched away is kinda silly considering every team in the league had a chance to spend a late round pick on him and has since moved on.

Brows are considering cutting colt mccoy.

Sure its a long shot, but its also very possible. I am not sold on Derek at all so it made it an easy thing for me.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I voted for Matt, Derek and Skelton knowing that Hall will absolutely not clear waivers and will not ever see our practice squad. Which bothers me as I have a feeling about that kid...
Also, I am beginning to believe that we will see a good deal of Anderson this season. I hope I'm wrong as more Anderson means Matty crapped the bed. Not good.

 

[kerouac9]

Big deal with Hall and to be honest it's like a 90% chance he doesn't get signed to another teams active roster.

Here are the teams that drafted Qbs in 2010 (they all could have picked Hall)..
St. Louis Rams
Denver Broncos
Carolina Panthers (X2)
Cleveland Browns
Philadelphia Eagles
San Diego Chargers
Tennessee Titans
Chicago Bears
Buffalo Bills
New Orleans Saints
New England Patriots
You can eliminate all of them (thats 11 teams or 1/3rd)

Here are the teams that drafted a QB in 2009
Detroit Lions
NY Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Miami Dolphins
Dallas Cowboys
NY Giants
San Francisco 49ers
Denver Broncos
Seattle Seahawks
St. Louis Rams
Indianapolis Colts
New England Patriots

Thats 12 teams, 3 of which drafted a QB in '10 too meaning 20 teams drafted a QB in the past 2 seasons(21 if you count AZ). Also nearly every team signed an undrafted rookie this offseason.

The teams left would be Baltimore, Cincy, Houston, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Oakland, Washington, Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota.

What team would Hall have a legitimate shot at sticking on their 53 man roster?

Not Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Atlanta, Washington, Cincy and somehow I don't think he is an Al Davis type of QB. So maybe Jacksonville, Kansas City(he'd have to beat out Palko), Houston (he'd have to beat out JD Booty) or Green Bay.

Seriously all this talk about him being snatched away is kinda silly considering every team in the league had a chance to spend a late round pick on him and has since moved on.

This. I'm not sure about eliminating all the teams who drafted a QB in the last two years; I'd be more interested in what teams have drafted a QB in the first five rounds, since 6th and 7th round picks tend to be a little more expendable.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up with a West Coast passing team on their practice squad. Cleveland would seem to be the best bet, but don't count out Green Bay (Graham Harrell is their #3), New Orleans (can he beat out Sean Canfield or a pudgy Chase Daniel?), or Tampa (Rudy Carpenter is currently their #3).

Max Hall doesn't have to choose to go on the Cards' practice squad. He has an option. If some team likes him and he'll have a chance to make their roster sooner rather than later, he might pick them.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

why keep Derek? How can you possibly be behind him and want our entire future to ride on him?

I don't believe that either Matt, nor Derek, are our future to be completely honest. It may only be preseason, but I'm not seeing anything new from Leinart...and in my opinion Derek has better physical skills.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I don't believe that either Matt, nor Derek, are our future to be completely honest. It may only be preseason, but I'm not seeing anything new from Leinart...and in my opinion Derek has better physical skills.

Truth...

 

[TheHopToad]

Matt is the starter.

Anderson has experience. No way they don't keep him.

After sending McFadden to Pitt in order to select Skelton, he is a lock to make the team.

Hall may be put on the PS.

+1

Leinart is the man this year, but unless he flips the switch from serviceable journeyman to top tier, then he won't stay past this year.

IMO Skelton is this team's QB of the future. He has the size, skills, and unlimited potential. He starts out impressive and can only develop from there.

DA is a nice backup with experience, but is too inconsistent to be anything else.

As impressive as Max Hall has been, I'm afraid he doesn't have the size to be successful for the long term. This isn't the Mountain West Conference anymore. I think NFL first team defenses will eat him up. Sure there are exceptions like Doug Flutie, but I think that's a long shot.

 

[BigRedRage]

I don't believe that either Matt, nor Derek, are our future to be completely honest. It may only be preseason, but I'm not seeing anything new from Leinart...and in my opinion Derek has better physical skills.

Mccown had great physical skills too, Derek lacks mental skills. Also, absolutley no touch...i will pull my hair out if hes our QB

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Mccown had great physical skills too, Derek lacks mental skills. Also, absolutley no touch...i will pull my hair out if hes our QB

Whereas Matt has excellent touch on his passes, and a better ability to read defenses?

Neither one of these guys will be much more than we've already seen through out their careers. With that said, Anderson brings more to the table than Leinart.

If we are looking at just these two tum-tum's as one, or the other, being the future of the franchise...my money's on Anderson. The more reps he gets now to establish a better rapport, and improve his timing, with our receivers the better off the cards will be this season.

However, in my opinion, it's really a moot point. The success of the passing game rests solely on the backs of Wells, Hightower, and the five meatheads up front. If we are unable to run the ball effectively, coming out of the gate to start the season, it'll be a quick return to the Denny Green days (ie. 8 in the box for any down of less than 12 yards).

 

[AzStevenCal]

Leinart is the man this year, but unless he flips the switch from serviceable journeyman to top tier, then he won't stay past this year.

I think this is the real reason we are seeing so much of Anderson. It's going to cost us way too much to keep a weak armed mediocre QB in the fold after this season. I think Matt has outplayed Derek so far (by a fair margin) but because of Matt's contract bonus, Whiz wants Derek to earn the starter spot. If the O-Line comes together, I believe Matt can get it done but I don't think anyone in coaching or management considers him more than a one year possibility and Skelton might need a little more time than that to get there.

Steve

 

[BigRedRage]

Whereas Matt has excellent touch on his passes, and a better ability to read defenses?

Neither one of these guys will be much more than we've already seen through out their careers. With that said, Anderson brings more to the table than Leinart.

If we are looking at just these two tum-tum's as one, or the other, being the future of the franchise...my money's on Anderson. The more reps he gets now to establish a better rapport, and improve his timing, with our receivers the better off the cards will be this season.

However, in my opinion, it's really a moot point. The success of the passing game rests solely on the backs of Wells, Hightower, and the five meatheads up front. If we are unable to run the ball effectively, coming out of the gate to start the season, it'll be a quick return to the Denny Green days (ie. 8 in the box for any down of less than 12 yards).

Matt does have better touch and has very little in game experience, DA has tons.

It does boil down to running but ill take Matt of DA any day

 

[Buckybird]

Gimme door #1.

This team has to sink or swim with Leinart this year based on what he commands salary wise 2011, if there is one. DA will never be the QBOF in AZ!!! Skelton has size & ability & Hall brings moxie, confidence & pedigree.

 

[MadCardDisease]

DA will never be the QBOF in AZ!!!

He wasn't brought in to be the QBOF. He was brought in to be the backup in case something happens to Lienart.

 

[TheCardFan]

Where is the option to keep all 4 QB's?!

Sincerely,

Mitch

 

[RonF]

If you check out the stats for both Matt and Derek since 1996 you come up with the following:

Matt 2009: 0 TDS 3 ints 2008: 1TD 1int 2007: 2 TDs 4ints 2006: 11tds 12 ints

Derek 2009: 3 TDs 10ints 2008: 9 TDs 8 ints 2007: 29 TDs 19ints 2006: 5 TDs 8ints

Based on past production and game experience I would have to pick Derek. The last time Matt scored a TD was 2008 and the lack of playing time seems to have affected his confidence. Which isn't his fault, it is what it is. I would though keep all four QBs using Derek and Matt to get through the season and see how our rookies progress.

 

[az jam]

Leinart, Derek & Skeleton are my choices. Matt will be the starter. You need an experienced backup; that is Anderson. Skeleton is the rookie that they traded up to get. He has looked good. I like Hall and would put him on the PS.

 

[JeffGollin]

Because I'm no longer completely sold on Leinart or Anderson, I'd be inclined to work from the bottom and keep both Hall and Skelton one way or another. Both have impressed me that they could be good pros in time.

We cannot afford to lose either Anderson or Leinart without bringing in someone better. (We need two experienced QB's to make it thru the season. Unfortunately, the two most qualified will probably turn out to be Matt and Derek despite their deficiencies).

I find this depressing - our only salvation is for Chris Miller to pull off a miracle and get either of the two ready to play at a higher level.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Mccown had great physical skills too, Derek lacks mental skills. Also, absolutley no touch...i will pull my hair out if hes our QB

Yea... that 3rd and 1, 37 yard completion to Williams wasn't a touch pass at all was it?

 

[devilfan02]

Matt is the starter.

Anderson has experience. No way they don't keep him.

After sending McFadden to Pitt in order to select Skelton, he is a lock to make the team.

Hall may be put on the PS.

This and Anderson is guaranteed $3M this season I believe. If so, no chance he gets cut. I may be wrong on the amount but I'm almost certain that Jurecki said this.