Screw Q. You can't be both a Grown Ass Man and a Whiny Little Baby, IMHO.
Q's comments on media day
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gotta agree here. A 275 pound LBer shouldn't be able to run a 100 yard pick six no matter how many blocks in the back there are if our skills guys are actually trying to catch him.
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I've had the opportunity to spend some time with Terrell and represented (successfully) one of his best friends in a civil suit in which Terrell was a key witness and may have won the case for me. Terrell wanted to be drafted and play here. He also would have signed here in FA if that was a possibility. He is an Arizona boy through and through. He may love where he is and he is in the best place for him but don't think for a second he wouldn't have become the heart of this team if he came here.
Q on the other hand, needs to get over it. He is still bitter about Haley, and Haley is not the organization. I'd be willing to bed Mikey regrets letting him get away.
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Honestly this is enough to make me root for the Niners
Terrell recently had to surrender 7 guns, including an AK-47, after his then-girlfriend had another order of protection out against him - this time for punching her and dragging her some distance outside of a vehicle. Then a week later she voluntarily removed the order so they could be married.
Details are all on Deadspin.com.
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YEP!!! My sentiments EXACTLY.
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Doesn't help when Antrel Rolle blocks the one WR that had a chance to catch him.
Antrel Rolle doesn't step in Larry Fitzgerald's way, and Fitz tackles Harrison before he makes it to the end zone.
http://thezoneblitz.blogspot.com/2009/02/larry-fitzgerald-runs-into-teammate-on.html
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I will NEVER root for the Niners to win anything. As much as I don't want to see Q or Ray Lewis awarded anything, can't root for a division rival. Just can't. Suck it, Niners.
"Soft as Marshmallows?" Uh, I think that has more to do with Kurt Warner leaving the same offseason. Scoring points and winning games makes anyone look "hard". Boldin was great before Warner's resurrection, but we were winning the same amounts of games then as we have since he left. Just win games, and I don't care who is lining up. The fact that we are one of the worst teams in the league and Q is in the Super Bowl has suddenly made everyone remember Q. This guy is still a great player, but he hasn't been over 1,000 yards receiving in BAL, and now that his team is in the SB, everyone acts like he was so crucial to our success: Then how did we lose so many games with him before Warner? How did we have a winning record in the 7 games he missed in 2009? Oh yeah, because Kurt Warner was the real reason for that success.
Spot on, agree totally.
Yep, agree. Let's not forget we netted Daryl Washington (draft pick) and Kerry Rhodes from the moves we made surrounding that situation. The bottom line is that he was never worth Fitz money, which he wanted here (and ironically never got in BAL), was not worth significantly more wins above replacement, and we got great compenastion in Washington and Rhodes, and jettisoned a pouter who didn't want to be here. It's funny in the same way as how people begin to reminisce fondly about their b****y, average-looking exes once they start dating the rich male model. Let's get over it, people!
"Soft as Marshmallows?" Uh, I think that has more to do with Kurt Warner leaving the same offseason. Scoring points and winning games makes anyone look "hard". Boldin was great before Warner's resurrection, but we were winning the same amounts of games then as we have since he left. Just win games, and I don't care who is lining up. The fact that we are one of the worst teams in the league and Q is in the Super Bowl has suddenly made everyone remember Q. This guy is still a great player, but he hasn't been over 1,000 yards receiving in BAL, and now that his team is in the SB, everyone acts like he was so crucial to our success: Then how did we lose so many games with him before Warner? How did we have a winning record in the 7 games he missed in 2009? Oh yeah, because Kurt Warner was the real reason for that success.
Will always have great admiration for Q and the way he plays the game... However, his childish behavior after we won the NFC Championship game against Philly, and now these comments are really, really unfortunate and detract from my respect for the guy.
Spot on, agree totally.
Yep, agree. Let's not forget we netted Daryl Washington (draft pick) and Kerry Rhodes from the moves we made surrounding that situation. The bottom line is that he was never worth Fitz money, which he wanted here (and ironically never got in BAL), was not worth significantly more wins above replacement, and we got great compenastion in Washington and Rhodes, and jettisoned a pouter who didn't want to be here. It's funny in the same way as how people begin to reminisce fondly about their b****y, average-looking exes once they start dating the rich male model. Let's get over it, people!
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Totally disagree. Boldin was a tough player who was outstanding while he played for the Cardinals. But in typical Cardinal fashion the front office created a situation where yet another top player felt he needed a change of scenery.
Who is better? Boldin, who has put up solid to great numbers every year or the Cardinals franchise that has 1-2 winning seasons every 15-25 years?
Boldin played for the Cardinals for more years, 7, than any coach in franchise history has lasted with the team. That says a lot. It's great that the Cards were able to get Washington and Rhodes from the trade, though the Cardinals have never had a winning season with them on the team and the Defense didn't miss a beat when Rhodes went out in 2011, but on the other hand they've used a #3, Andre Roberts, and a #1 Michael Floyd to try to replace Anquan. So was it such a great trade after all?
Totally disagree. Boldin was a tough player who was outstanding while he played for the Cardinals. But in typical Cardinal fashion the front office created a situation where yet another top player felt he needed a change of scenery.
Who is better? Boldin, who has put up solid to great numbers every year or the Cardinals franchise that has 1-2 winning seasons every 15-25 years?
Boldin played for the Cardinals for more years, 7, than any coach in franchise history has lasted with the team. That says a lot. It's great that the Cards were able to get Washington and Rhodes from the trade, though the Cardinals have never had a winning season with them on the team and the Defense didn't miss a beat when Rhodes went out in 2011, but on the other hand they've used a #3, Andre Roberts, and a #1 Michael Floyd to try to replace Anquan. So was it such a great trade after all?
You didnt let it go you left too
What do you mean? I left my job in May because I felt disrespected. I got a new job and I rarely give my previous place of employment a thought. I certainly wouldn't bad-mouth them in public now or four years from now.
But have you had 100 reporters asking you about your previous employer every day for the last week and a half?
I just meant if you truly let it go you would have stayed. You didn't though. They disrespected you and you left. Same as Q and how he feels. Thus wanting to be traded.
Duckjake summed it up perfectly. You don't have 1000 reporters asking you 20,000 questions in the public about it. Q does. HE is a guy that wears his feeling on his chest and doesn't hold anything in. HE was asked. He answered. I have zero problem with that. The way he is emotionally makes him the great player he is and was. SO what if he said he dint enjoy it like he should? He didn't say the "the cardinals suck and i hate them"
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I never said Boldin wasn't/isn't a tough player. In fact, I've said that multiple times in the past few days on these boards. I appreciate his contributions to the franchise (and I WILL be wearing one of my Boldin jerseys on Sunday, because I simply still love the guy as a player, even if I think he's whiny).
The point is, it's not a comparison between who is better, Boldin or the Cardinals - you can't make an even comparison of two things of different categories. A more accurate comparison would be who is better, Boldin, or the guy who he felt overshadowed by and wanted to get paid like, Larry Fitzgerald. As great as Boldin is, the answer to that is obvious.
It's true, the D didn't miss a beat with Rhodes out in 2011. But you're forgetting one of the knocks on Boldin towards the end of his time here: that the offense didn't seem to miss a beat when Breaston started in his place. Does that make Steve a better WR than Anquan? No, but by the same token, it doesn't mean that Rhodes isn't a good player because Rashad Johnson was able to fill in admirably.
Drafting Roberts and Floyd does not necessarily imply an effort to replace Anquan specifically. Breaston, a solid starting WR when he was here also left, and more importantly, I wouldn't use a Whiz/Graves personnel decision to justify Boldin's importance to Arizona. Floyd may end up a good player, but he hasn't shown much yet. You can't criticize Whiz and Graves and then use their attempts to maybe replace Boldin as justification of how important he was. Let's not forget, Boldin tore it up here on our way to 5-11 seasons as well as playoff ones. He simply was not as important as people are making him out to be, which I believe is because of a neurotic obsession with him because his team is in the Super Bowl. No one was pining for Anquan two months ago. It's Warner. We don't need Anquan back, and the trade was the best for both parties. It's Kurt that we needed to stay if we wanted to keep on being good.
There is no neurotic obsession with Boldin because his team is in the Super Bowl the obsession with Boldin is because he played like a grown azz man when he was in Arizona. There were plenty of I miss Q thread the last 3 seasons.
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Apologies if you thought that "neurotic" comment was intended for you; it wasn't. Believe me, I missed him too, but my main point is that I just don't think you can definitively say it was a bad move. He was becoming detrimental to team stability with his actions, clearly wasn't happy here, so we traded him somewhere where he was, he's winning, we're not having to overpay him, and we got 2 great younger players in return, while he can win now and pursue the ring he deserves before he slows down more than he already has. He is still great but if it's between him and Fitz (the decision Graves had to make), I'm takin' Fitz every time!
I can relate to that. But now that things have turned out the way they have I don't see that Boldin had to go after all. It was the coaches that needed to go but how do you foresee that the coaches who just took your team to the playoffs two years in a row and a Super Bowl would turn into idiots without Kurt Warner and the other veterans who left after the 2009 season.
By the way do you really think it was Boldin or Fitzgerald? Indy was able to keep Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison for 8 years before Harrison retired. And that was while they were paying Peyton Manning. On the other hand we've seen many teams have to let a top player go to keep another. Always an interesting topic for conversation.
But have you had 100 reporters asking you about your previous employer every day for the last week and a half?
Nah, just every other Tuesday.
I just meant if you truly let it go you would have stayed. You didn't though. They disrespected you and you left. Same as Q and how he feels. Thus wanting to be traded.
Duckjake summed it up perfectly. You don't have 1000 reporters asking you 20,000 questions in the public about it. Q does. HE is a guy that wears his feeling on his chest and doesn't hold anything in. HE was asked. He answered. I have zero problem with that. The way he is emotionally makes him the great player he is and was. SO what if he said he dint enjoy it like he should? He didn't say the "the cardinals suck and i hate them"
I think we are addressing different points or positions, as the case may be. My point was this: you're unhappy with your position, you move on, you let it go. To bitch about it five years later is, in opinion, um, silly.
I appreciate that Q is honest about his feelings. Still, there is a way you can handle things without making things look bad for yourself. Don't act like Q hasn't had any media training because I would bet that he has.
I am not sure what you're implying, Shane. I simply stated that I wouldn't bad mouth my previous employer IN PUBLIC. Put 500 million reporters and microphones in front of my face and I am still far too smart to succumb to that.
And, for the record, to let something go doesn't mean you are okay with the way you are being treated. There is nothing wrong with moving on if you feel you are being mistreated. Forgiveness is a powerful thing.
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I have zero problems with Q or what he said. He's an emotional player who have everything to the Cardinals yet the coaching staff and front office jerked him around. Put yourself in his situation, do you honestly think you would feel any different?
The guy went all out for his team, yet the coach at the time felt it necessary to get involved in his contract negotiation, he had his OC bench him in the NFC Championship game, he goes out less than a year after the Super Bowl and gets his fave busted up in the waning seconds of the Jets game where a stupid decision was made to call a high risk play in a blowout, only to be jerked around in Chicago and benched later and let's not forget he never got a fair contract offer, one that he was promised for two years.
If anyone wants to be mad at Q, they should direct their anger at the Front Office and Ken Whisenhunt and his staff. Letting Q go and the manner in which it was handled was one of the Cardinals most embarrassing gaffes since gutting their playoff roster after the '98 season.
The guy went all out for his team, yet the coach at the time felt it necessary to get involved in his contract negotiation, he had his OC bench him in the NFC Championship game, he goes out less than a year after the Super Bowl and gets his fave busted up in the waning seconds of the Jets game where a stupid decision was made to call a high risk play in a blowout, only to be jerked around in Chicago and benched later and let's not forget he never got a fair contract offer, one that he was promised for two years.
If anyone wants to be mad at Q, they should direct their anger at the Front Office and Ken Whisenhunt and his staff. Letting Q go and the manner in which it was handled was one of the Cardinals most embarrassing gaffes since gutting their playoff roster after the '98 season.
The ink was barely dry on his new contract (you know ? The one that replaced the contract that was not expired but was renegotiated out of good faith ) before he was wanting a new one. I believe he was just jealous of Larry. And correct me if I'm wrong but has Q ever so much as given a tip of the hat to the fans here after he left ?
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Complete revisionist history. He renegotiated his rookie deal that he clearly outplayed in his 2nd season. He didnt try to re-negotiate that contract until 3 year later(hardly after h the ink was dry) The team agreed that he needed to get a new contract and offered him one that was a complete insult with no signing bonus or any guaranteed $. Any player especially of Q's caliber would take that as a slap in the face. He and his agent rejected that offer and rightfully so.
Whiz then made the fateful mistake of sticking his nose in it something a coach should NEVER do and told Q something like "you should sign the deal we offered" Again a slap in the face.
The team clearly never negotiated in good faith even though they promised him a new deal land in the media stated that he was a "core" player and deserved one. He had every right to be pissed off.
Oh and Q was one of the most fan friendly player you will EVER meet. Probably the most fan friendly teh team has ever had yes even more so than Fitz. Nobody spent more time interacting with fans than Q each and every day at camp etc.... Just because he didnt take an ad out in the paper to personally recognize you makes him a bad guy? HARDLY!
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