RugbyMuffin
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Yes, yes, I know you all wait with bated breath, LOL. Yeah right.
You can skip this mindless blathering and get to the football.
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I really have been enjoying this season, and have so much I want to write about but........ busy at work, busy at home, and had some opportunities that I had to take advantage of.
Busy at work - Aren't we all these days. Happy to have work too!
Busy at home - Brought a park mobile RV that I am fixing up. Super fun project but very time consuming. (see below)
Opportunity - Decided it was time to learn how to cook at age 34. Went up to see the master, and was taught some magic potions of goodness. Beef Barley Soup, Escarole & Beans, Apple Pie, Vinegar Chicken, Flank Steak, Meatballs and Spaghetti, etc., etc.
So thus while I have a whole bunch that I could write about at the halfway point of the season. I just have not had the time.
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1. Overall:
The Cardinals sit at 4-4 at the mid-point of the season. Sitting way above expectations of many fans, and myself. I was thinking 2-6 or 3-5 at this point. Looking at the roster, day one. I had a feeling the offense would suffer, and they have. Yet, I had a feeling the defense would also suffer but I was very wrong on that.
Some fans believe that your team either makes the playoffs or it is a lost cause of a season. Some fans believe that your team needs to make the Super Bowl or it is a wasted season. Admirable but I am not one of those fans.
The Cardinals need to re-build. Why ? Because of what will be my second of three points I have at the mid-point of this season. They need talent.
Can Keim and Arians find the talent ? I don't know but they sure are making sure they don't miss a player because they are not active. The churning of the bottom of the roster is a real situation. And when I say bottom of the roster, I mean the bottom of the "Active 45" players on Sunday. Arians' inactive list week to week has about 4 to 5 "protected players on it". Ryan Williams, and Earl Watford to name two. They are probably not going to see the field this year, but when those two roster spots are inactive every week are you really "wasting" a roster spot. Those 8 weekly inactives cannot play, that day, they will not be on the field, and really can't do anything so they are kind of a wash. So, if you have 8 inactive RBs on the roster, what does it matter ? Bruce Arians and Steve Keim use the inactive list intelligently. They put players in that group they want to keep around and work with. Projects.
Because of it, they have brought in some good talent that may help depth wise, role wise. Bradley Sowell, Teddy Williams, Britten Golden, Dontay Moch, Alameda Ta'amu, and Marcus Bernard are decent players, IMO. Not starters, not difference makers, but solid talent that is going to do nothing more than make next offseason more competitive.
The draft picks, hit or miss, but some good talent there. Cooper has a lot of promise, Tyrann Matheui has played very well for a rookie, Andre Ellington has shown great promise so far, Stepfan Taylor has shown some potential to be on this roster for a long time, and the jury is still out on Kevin Minter, and Earl Watford.
There is excitement and optimism but it is only 8 games. We will see. 4-4 is a heck of a good start for this team, so there should be a feeling of accomplishment for the current regime in there first year.
2. Talent, Talent, Talent:
Coaching is overrated.
It can give you an edge, but you have to be competitive to utilize that edge that coaching can give you.
If you do not have talent you will not win football games.
Don't buy it. OK. Then explain to me why with a new coach, new GM, new setup in the organization, what seems like 800 new coaches on the staff, new this, new that, different this, and different that, etc., etc., etc that the Cardinals are basically the same as last year.
Great defense, poor offense.
Ray Horton and his scheme, Whiz and his system, Bruce Arians and his new simple system, Todd Bowles and his more conservative approach, Tom Moore, etc., etc., etc
Great Defense, poor offense.
Why ? Talent.
2008-2009 Arizona Cardinals - back to back playoff appearances. Kurt Warner retires, and 2010 and 2011 the Cardinals are horrible again. Coach didn't change, but the talent did. Kurt Warner, Anquan Boldin, Antrel Rolle, etc, etc, leave, and the team gets worse, and the coaching couldn't do anything because there is only so much it can do.
Why ? Talent.
Whiz goes to San Deigo and looks like a QB guy again.
Why ? Talent.
Mike Tomlin, had so many years of success in Pittsburgh, and the immortal Dick LeBeau that EVERYONE was so sure was the best defensive mind in the NFL. Losing, badly.
Why ? Talent.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE TALENT TO SUCCEED IN THIS LEAGUE. All you have to do is look around the NFL, and it consistently drives that point home. Yeah, Aaron Rogers (recently hurt) does a heck of a lot to make his team better but it is because he is top of the hill in the QB talent department. Green Bay is now in a lot of trouble cause the team doesn't have the talent it needs to compete.
Enter Harold Goodwin. In my opinion, he gets it. Screw continuity on the offensive line. SCREW IT. Get the talent on the roster first. Doing the same thing over and over again is the definition of what again ?
1. Levi Brown ? Out. Gone. Needed to happen 3 years ago, IMO.
2. Bobby Massie ? Had to EARN his job. This year. That is very important. What was good enough for some (including me), wasn't.
3. Eric Winston ? Brought in because the talent wasn't good enough. That is not been the Cardinal way for a long time, and thank goodness it has changed.
4. Paul Fanaika ? Mike Gibson ? Nate Potter ? <--- Debatable, but I feel this depth is way, way better then in year's past.
5. Earl Watford ? A showing of investing in the future. Still on the roster too, which is a rarity for offensive linemen drafted by the Cardinals in later rounds.
I like the search for talent at the expense of the offensive line continuity. Continuity would have Levi Brown still as our LT. Continuity would never give Bobby Massie a chance to redeem himself. Continuity doesn't even think about keeping Paul Fanaika on this roster, let alone have him start.
And it is not only on the offensive line, or just on the offense. Andre Ellington getting time, Stepfan Taylor getting time, bringing in Britten Golden, Teddy Williams, the challenging of Fitzgerald in his new role, bringing in Carson Palmer (who is an upgrade from poor to bad but still an upgrade to make us 4-4). Not to mention Karlos Dansby, John Abraham, Frostee Rucker, Matt Shaughnessey, Marcus Bernard, and the host of other talent that was sort through and brought in.
Talent, Talent, Talent. Find it keep it.
3. The Offensive line, the Quarterback, and the Dude :
Now can I go back to the offensive line again ?
2012:
Levi Brown
Daryn College
Lyle Sendlein
Adam Snyder
Bobby Massie
What I hope to happen by next year
2014:
_______ - TBD. I would be 100% shocked if the Cardinals don't address this.
Jonathan Cooper
Lyle Sendlein - And that is yet to be determined.
Bradley Sowell - yep. you heard it here first. I cannot see why not.
Bobby Massie - Physically improved in 2012, mentally improved in 2013.
Bench:
Earl Watford
Paul Fanaika
Nate Potter - at worst.
Get the talent first, and then worry about continuity. And I am fully prepared to debate why Bradley Sowell should end up our starting right guard next year.
As for left tackle ? Free Agency there will be Brandon Albert and to a lesser extent Jared Veldheer. If not, to the draft we go.
Now for the quarterback position. Carson Palmer is an improvement. He is. He gives the team a chance where for the last two years, we had only a fleeting moment of John Skelton playing the part of a poor man's Tebow that gave us a chance. Besides that our QB play actually would be so poor as to overcome the efforts of a great defense, and lose the game for the Caridnals.
Palmer is good for now. He gives us a chance. If we had a QB that was a notch above Palmer we could be 5-3, or dare I say 6-2. Yet, that is not the case.
Now how have the Cardinals won ? Running the ball, and keeping the game out of Palmer's hands. Palmer is going to have to throw the ball but is effective when it is not all on him.
Running the ball, when did this start happening ? See above. When the talent got better. Levi Brown was not a good run blocker. Minimal effort, minimal athletic ability. Why do I see Bradley Sowell as the RG next year? Because he can run block, he can get out in space, and move. That 80 yard run by Ellington ? Off the left side BTW.
Levi Brown was very poor at all aspects of the game. NFL professional football is a game of inches, and Levi Brown left inches all over the field. While he played to what he deemed the end of the play, the rest of the players on the field waited for the officials to blow the whistle, in order for them to stop competing.
Thus there is progress:
1. Improve the QB position (though barely): check
2. Better the Talent on the offensive line: In progress
3. Improve the RB position: check
4. Quarterback of the Future: _______
5. Tight End: _______
LOL. The dude threads, pretty funny, IMO.
Rob Housler is not going to be a NFL quality TE. He has had his opportunity, the Cardinals put their eggs in his basket, and he eggs have smashed onto the ground like when he drops a pass. The project is over, time to go get a tight end.
Him being over hyped is not his fault. Him being drafted WELL before he should have been is not his fault. Him being put in a position to not succeed is not his fault.
But, he is just not a good tight end. That is his fault.
This team needs a tight end. It needs a QB, a LT, and a pass rusher at the OLBer position, and then needs a TE.
What is even more worrisome ? Greg Olson on the Panthers is the only TE that I can see being what we need that will be a free agent next year. Again, the draft is the only place there is a good chance for the Cardinals to find what they need.
So that is it. That is really all I have in a condensed version of a mid-season review.
The organization is doing a good job of trying to improve talent both starting positions and depth wise. The team is playing better than expected, and most of the games have been close and competitive.
But, the talent needs to improve. The coaching is there, and to be honest the coaching can only do so much.
The challenge is:
1. QB
2. LT
3. OLBer
4. TE
And you only get a 1st round pick, and 2nd round pick a year. The ship is pointed in the right direction, does it get the right crew on the ship to start thinking that the Cardinals can get back to the top of the division ? We will see.
You can skip this mindless blathering and get to the football.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really have been enjoying this season, and have so much I want to write about but........ busy at work, busy at home, and had some opportunities that I had to take advantage of.
Busy at work - Aren't we all these days. Happy to have work too!
Busy at home - Brought a park mobile RV that I am fixing up. Super fun project but very time consuming. (see below)
Opportunity - Decided it was time to learn how to cook at age 34. Went up to see the master, and was taught some magic potions of goodness. Beef Barley Soup, Escarole & Beans, Apple Pie, Vinegar Chicken, Flank Steak, Meatballs and Spaghetti, etc., etc.
So thus while I have a whole bunch that I could write about at the halfway point of the season. I just have not had the time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Overall:
The Cardinals sit at 4-4 at the mid-point of the season. Sitting way above expectations of many fans, and myself. I was thinking 2-6 or 3-5 at this point. Looking at the roster, day one. I had a feeling the offense would suffer, and they have. Yet, I had a feeling the defense would also suffer but I was very wrong on that.
Some fans believe that your team either makes the playoffs or it is a lost cause of a season. Some fans believe that your team needs to make the Super Bowl or it is a wasted season. Admirable but I am not one of those fans.
The Cardinals need to re-build. Why ? Because of what will be my second of three points I have at the mid-point of this season. They need talent.
Can Keim and Arians find the talent ? I don't know but they sure are making sure they don't miss a player because they are not active. The churning of the bottom of the roster is a real situation. And when I say bottom of the roster, I mean the bottom of the "Active 45" players on Sunday. Arians' inactive list week to week has about 4 to 5 "protected players on it". Ryan Williams, and Earl Watford to name two. They are probably not going to see the field this year, but when those two roster spots are inactive every week are you really "wasting" a roster spot. Those 8 weekly inactives cannot play, that day, they will not be on the field, and really can't do anything so they are kind of a wash. So, if you have 8 inactive RBs on the roster, what does it matter ? Bruce Arians and Steve Keim use the inactive list intelligently. They put players in that group they want to keep around and work with. Projects.
Because of it, they have brought in some good talent that may help depth wise, role wise. Bradley Sowell, Teddy Williams, Britten Golden, Dontay Moch, Alameda Ta'amu, and Marcus Bernard are decent players, IMO. Not starters, not difference makers, but solid talent that is going to do nothing more than make next offseason more competitive.
The draft picks, hit or miss, but some good talent there. Cooper has a lot of promise, Tyrann Matheui has played very well for a rookie, Andre Ellington has shown great promise so far, Stepfan Taylor has shown some potential to be on this roster for a long time, and the jury is still out on Kevin Minter, and Earl Watford.
There is excitement and optimism but it is only 8 games. We will see. 4-4 is a heck of a good start for this team, so there should be a feeling of accomplishment for the current regime in there first year.
2. Talent, Talent, Talent:
Coaching is overrated.
It can give you an edge, but you have to be competitive to utilize that edge that coaching can give you.
If you do not have talent you will not win football games.
Don't buy it. OK. Then explain to me why with a new coach, new GM, new setup in the organization, what seems like 800 new coaches on the staff, new this, new that, different this, and different that, etc., etc., etc that the Cardinals are basically the same as last year.
Great defense, poor offense.
Ray Horton and his scheme, Whiz and his system, Bruce Arians and his new simple system, Todd Bowles and his more conservative approach, Tom Moore, etc., etc., etc
Great Defense, poor offense.
Why ? Talent.
2008-2009 Arizona Cardinals - back to back playoff appearances. Kurt Warner retires, and 2010 and 2011 the Cardinals are horrible again. Coach didn't change, but the talent did. Kurt Warner, Anquan Boldin, Antrel Rolle, etc, etc, leave, and the team gets worse, and the coaching couldn't do anything because there is only so much it can do.
Why ? Talent.
Whiz goes to San Deigo and looks like a QB guy again.
Why ? Talent.
Mike Tomlin, had so many years of success in Pittsburgh, and the immortal Dick LeBeau that EVERYONE was so sure was the best defensive mind in the NFL. Losing, badly.
Why ? Talent.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE TALENT TO SUCCEED IN THIS LEAGUE. All you have to do is look around the NFL, and it consistently drives that point home. Yeah, Aaron Rogers (recently hurt) does a heck of a lot to make his team better but it is because he is top of the hill in the QB talent department. Green Bay is now in a lot of trouble cause the team doesn't have the talent it needs to compete.
Enter Harold Goodwin. In my opinion, he gets it. Screw continuity on the offensive line. SCREW IT. Get the talent on the roster first. Doing the same thing over and over again is the definition of what again ?
1. Levi Brown ? Out. Gone. Needed to happen 3 years ago, IMO.
2. Bobby Massie ? Had to EARN his job. This year. That is very important. What was good enough for some (including me), wasn't.
3. Eric Winston ? Brought in because the talent wasn't good enough. That is not been the Cardinal way for a long time, and thank goodness it has changed.
4. Paul Fanaika ? Mike Gibson ? Nate Potter ? <--- Debatable, but I feel this depth is way, way better then in year's past.
5. Earl Watford ? A showing of investing in the future. Still on the roster too, which is a rarity for offensive linemen drafted by the Cardinals in later rounds.
I like the search for talent at the expense of the offensive line continuity. Continuity would have Levi Brown still as our LT. Continuity would never give Bobby Massie a chance to redeem himself. Continuity doesn't even think about keeping Paul Fanaika on this roster, let alone have him start.
And it is not only on the offensive line, or just on the offense. Andre Ellington getting time, Stepfan Taylor getting time, bringing in Britten Golden, Teddy Williams, the challenging of Fitzgerald in his new role, bringing in Carson Palmer (who is an upgrade from poor to bad but still an upgrade to make us 4-4). Not to mention Karlos Dansby, John Abraham, Frostee Rucker, Matt Shaughnessey, Marcus Bernard, and the host of other talent that was sort through and brought in.
Talent, Talent, Talent. Find it keep it.
3. The Offensive line, the Quarterback, and the Dude :
Now can I go back to the offensive line again ?
2012:
Levi Brown
Daryn College
Lyle Sendlein
Adam Snyder
Bobby Massie
What I hope to happen by next year
2014:
_______ - TBD. I would be 100% shocked if the Cardinals don't address this.
Jonathan Cooper
Lyle Sendlein - And that is yet to be determined.
Bradley Sowell - yep. you heard it here first. I cannot see why not.
Bobby Massie - Physically improved in 2012, mentally improved in 2013.
Bench:
Earl Watford
Paul Fanaika
Nate Potter - at worst.
Get the talent first, and then worry about continuity. And I am fully prepared to debate why Bradley Sowell should end up our starting right guard next year.
As for left tackle ? Free Agency there will be Brandon Albert and to a lesser extent Jared Veldheer. If not, to the draft we go.
Now for the quarterback position. Carson Palmer is an improvement. He is. He gives the team a chance where for the last two years, we had only a fleeting moment of John Skelton playing the part of a poor man's Tebow that gave us a chance. Besides that our QB play actually would be so poor as to overcome the efforts of a great defense, and lose the game for the Caridnals.
Palmer is good for now. He gives us a chance. If we had a QB that was a notch above Palmer we could be 5-3, or dare I say 6-2. Yet, that is not the case.
Now how have the Cardinals won ? Running the ball, and keeping the game out of Palmer's hands. Palmer is going to have to throw the ball but is effective when it is not all on him.
Running the ball, when did this start happening ? See above. When the talent got better. Levi Brown was not a good run blocker. Minimal effort, minimal athletic ability. Why do I see Bradley Sowell as the RG next year? Because he can run block, he can get out in space, and move. That 80 yard run by Ellington ? Off the left side BTW.
Levi Brown was very poor at all aspects of the game. NFL professional football is a game of inches, and Levi Brown left inches all over the field. While he played to what he deemed the end of the play, the rest of the players on the field waited for the officials to blow the whistle, in order for them to stop competing.
Thus there is progress:
1. Improve the QB position (though barely): check
2. Better the Talent on the offensive line: In progress
3. Improve the RB position: check
4. Quarterback of the Future: _______
5. Tight End: _______
LOL. The dude threads, pretty funny, IMO.
Rob Housler is not going to be a NFL quality TE. He has had his opportunity, the Cardinals put their eggs in his basket, and he eggs have smashed onto the ground like when he drops a pass. The project is over, time to go get a tight end.
Him being over hyped is not his fault. Him being drafted WELL before he should have been is not his fault. Him being put in a position to not succeed is not his fault.
But, he is just not a good tight end. That is his fault.
This team needs a tight end. It needs a QB, a LT, and a pass rusher at the OLBer position, and then needs a TE.
What is even more worrisome ? Greg Olson on the Panthers is the only TE that I can see being what we need that will be a free agent next year. Again, the draft is the only place there is a good chance for the Cardinals to find what they need.
So that is it. That is really all I have in a condensed version of a mid-season review.
The organization is doing a good job of trying to improve talent both starting positions and depth wise. The team is playing better than expected, and most of the games have been close and competitive.
But, the talent needs to improve. The coaching is there, and to be honest the coaching can only do so much.
The challenge is:
1. QB
2. LT
3. OLBer
4. TE
And you only get a 1st round pick, and 2nd round pick a year. The ship is pointed in the right direction, does it get the right crew on the ship to start thinking that the Cardinals can get back to the top of the division ? We will see.
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