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[Cbus cardsfan]

I love BA but I don't think it was intimidation I think it was arrogance. I especially didn't like the 3rd and 1 where he went deep and it was picked off in the endzone. All week we heard about how much he dislikes the Rams coaching staff. Well, I think Fisher knows him and was expecting that deep ball. He should have picked up the 1st down whenever had the chance instead of trying to prove how aggressive he was. Bad decision.

I don't agree. Palmer and Arians have said every pass play has an option in it for a deep play. If the read is there, they take a shot. Palmer thought he had it and it didn't work this time. Last year, it worked just fine against Philly. It's not going to work every time.

 

[Shaggy]

Four turnovers enough said. To many points missed in the red zone. Now will see if next week is any better.

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It was only 3 turnovers. 2 fumbles and a INT.

 

[Shaggy]

I don't agree. Palmer and Arians have said every pass play has an option in it for a deep play. If the read is there, they take a shot. Palmer thought he had it and it didn't work this time. Last year, it worked just fine against Philly. It's not going to work every time.

If he threw ahead of Brown, it would have been a touch down. It was under thrown.

 

[sunsfan88]

Yahoo's front page headline: Overrated Cardinals Back to Earth

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/...rizona-cardinals-back-to-earth-031614717.html

Goes on to discredit the Cardinals wins by talking about how their wins have come against the worst teams in football.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

agreed.

and the whole "it says a lot that we almost won"... is this THREE YEARS AGO, when we didn't expect to win games? We just played a thoroughly mediocre team at home and lost. All that says to me is we laid a huge freaking egg and wasted an opportunity to go to 4-0 overall, 4-0 in the conference and 2-0 in the division. Nothing about that makes me feel good in any way shape or form.

this was a pretty pathetic loss to a pretty mediocre team. that's all. gotta get it back and going next week.

Except 3 years ago we wouldn't have been so close to winning playing such a bad game. I'm not saying that it makes the loss ok, but doing absolutely everything you can to give the game to the other team and still having a real chance of winning at the end says something about the talent on this team.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It was only 3 turnovers. 2 fumbles and a INT.

4 if you count the failed 4th down conversion.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Wondering what was going on there? Cat has been very good on KO's, kicking them through the end zone often, prior to today.

It almost seemed like it was the game-plan to give the kickoff some hang-time and entice the return, but considering no adjustment later in the game after some successful returns leads me to believe he just didn't have the leg yesterday.

 

[NEWARKCARD]

Can't you tell by the way the players and our coach were talking all week the Cardinals are intimidated by the Rams, their in the Cardinals head

 

[cardpa]

I don't agree. Palmer and Arians have said every pass play has an option in it for a deep play. If the read is there, they take a shot. Palmer thought he had it and it didn't work this time. Last year, it worked just fine against Philly. It's not going to work every time.

I did not have a problem with the pass to JB that ended up as an INT. I did have a problem with 2 passes on 2nd and 3rd down with 2 yards to go inside of 2 minutes when the run game was doing okay and the Rams defense wasn't exactly stopping the run. As much as we malign THESMEL running here at least once would have been a better choice especially when you have all your timeouts left.

 

[DVontel]

Not gonna lie, I loved that trash-talking between Tyrann & Gurley after that Gurley run. Wished we would have just came out on top though.

 

[JCSunsfan]

This was ALL about turnovers. If the giveaway/takeaway ratio was anywhere near what it usually is for this team, over last year and this year; it would have been a two touchdown win.

That opening fumble and score set the tone and this team never recovered.

 

[Garthshort]

Mitch, two things:
1. I can see you making the Cat Man, MVP, but don't like to see him making all those tackles, as injuries are possible. On the downside, his KO's which usually go thru the end zone, didn't, yesterday.
2. Since we use Jauron Brown so sparingly in the passing game, what about promoting Shipley from the PS. He seemed like former WR, Ricky Proehl (Sp?) to me. IMO, he could be a chain mover.

Thanks, for your take on a very disappointing loss.

 

[NeverSayDieFan]

Hey, bud...

Always enjoy your "thoughts." Tough loss, no doubt. But, an NFL season, as does life itself, demands resiliency. The NFL is a daily-changing landscape ( I saw on NFL network last night that Rams' LB Alec Ogletree is going to have ankle surgery..not sure how long he'll be out of action) IMO a big loss for them.)

Here's the thing...my dad always told me that baseball championships are decided come the trading dead-line...For the 1st 4 or 5 months teams are just figuring out what they have and then, what they need to do going forward. Is football any different? We're 3-1 and I'm sure BASK & Co. are saying...Where can we get better? ...even as I type this on here.

A tough loss DOES NOT change that we are now a GOOD football team!

WE GO FORWARD!!!

Mark in "soggy" S.C.

 

[kerouac9]

this is the first game I've ever been disappointed by an Arians team. I literally can't remember another game I believed we should win hands down only to come out and lay such a huge egg.

sucks. Will be interesting to see how they respond on the road next week.

That's an interesting POV. I think you're overlooking the time last season when we went to Atlanta and laid a total egg against a terrible Falcons team. First time I can really remember it happening at home. But the sample size is pretty small, because you're basically talking about the last 8 games of 2013 and the first 6-8 of last year. Anytime Lindley was under center was just a pit of despair.

* Team MVP was Chandler Catanzaro---not only for his 5/5 FGs, but for making tackles on kickoffs, which remain another weakness, kick coverage.

His kickoff depth was awful. Don't know what was going on with that.

 

[Jake6233]

That's an interesting POV. I think you're overlooking the time last season when we went to Atlanta and laid a total egg against a terrible Falcons team. First time I can really remember it happening at home. But the sample size is pretty small, because you're basically talking about the last 8 games of 2013 and the first 6-8 of last year. Anytime Lindley was under center was just a pit of despair.



His kickoff depth was awful. Don't know what was going on with that.

Different circumstances with palmer and fitz being out and it being a road game. Plus they were outplayed against the Falcons where as yesterday they moved the ball up and down the field but couldn't get out of their own way making dumb mistake after dumb mistake. They threw the game away yesterday, I think they were just outplayed against Atlanta.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That's an interesting POV. I think you're overlooking the time last season when we went to Atlanta and laid a total egg against a terrible Falcons team. First time I can really remember it happening at home. But the sample size is pretty small, because you're basically talking about the last 8 games of 2013 and the first 6-8 of last year. Anytime Lindley was under center was just a pit of despair.

Even in the Atlanta game, I wasn't that shocked. Never gave Stanton's teams much a shot on the road against anyone considering they just barely squeaked past everyone they beat at home during that stretch of the season.

Yesterday was a game an elite team should win by two touchdowns. I still think this is a playoff team, but my expectations have been tempered a bit.

 

[cardpa]

Despite everything that went wrong yesterday at the end of the game the Cardinals still had a chance to win. I would really like to know why BA didn't give CJ one chance at making the first down inside of the 2 minute mark? 2nd and 2 and CJ never gets the ball. Why were the passes to the outside when all they needed were 2 yards and they had 3 timeouts left? To me those 3 plays made all the difference in the game. Even with all of the mistakes, turnovers, etc. the Cardinals committed to this point they were in a position to win the game. I guess you can take that as a positive or you can take it as just another in a series of errors they committed throughout the game. In any case a very sloppy game for the Cardinals. I would rather they have a game like this early rather than later in the season when they may need to be on the top of there game. It's just too bad it had to be against a divisional opponent.

If the team has their heads are on right next Sunday will be a very long day for the Lions.

 

[Reddog]

I don't agree. Palmer and Arians have said every pass play has an option in it for a deep play. If the read is there, they take a shot. Palmer thought he had it and it didn't work this time. Last year, it worked just fine against Philly. It's not going to work every time.

All due respect but there was no read. He dropped back and chucked assuming Brown could out run the coverage. Problem was there were two deep waiting for it and he under threw it possibly because he was pressed and couldn't follow through. I think the Rams fully expected that reaction because they know BA. They won the chess match because we were a little busy beating our chest all week.

 

[Chopper0080]

All due respect but there was no read. He dropped back and chucked assuming Brown could out run the coverage. Problem was there were two deep waiting for it and he under threw it possibly because he was pressed and couldn't follow through. I think the Rams fully expected that reaction because they know BA. They won the chess match because we were a little busy beating our chest all week.

If you re-watch it...the S was shading over to Floyd's side and then flipped once Palmer started the throw. Palmer probably would have liked to have the throw back, but that is the type of offense this is.

 

[DVontel]

Mitch, two things:
1. I can see you making the Cat Man, MVP, but don't like to see him making all those tackles, as injuries are possible. On the downside, his KO's which usually go thru the end zone, didn't, yesterday.
2. Since we use Jauron Brown so sparingly in the passing game, what about promoting Shipley from the PS. He seemed like former WR, Ricky Proehl (Sp?) to me. IMO, he could be a chain mover.

Thanks, for your take on a very disappointing loss.

I'm all for this.

Especially if it sends Brittan Golden to the PS.

 

[Buckybird]

Good read Mitch.

I have a few other things I noticed or it's been ongoing

1) the Rams threw some serious shots early on yesterday. 4-5 blows to WRs & RBs that were either head shots or close to it. I kept waiting for the Cards to answer back & making a statement & yet they never did, though Fitz had a crushing block on Ogletree.

2) can we please fire Amos Jones!!! His units are/have been pretty bad. The most alarming is the PR unit. The reason the Cards usually get nothing on PRs is because the gunners are usually singled up man on man, sometimes 2 will be blocking on 1 side. It's seems 95% of the time 1 of the opponents gunner sis running free, thus killing any chance of a return. I watch other teams almost always doubling the punt teams gunners & we rarely do. It's maddening.

 

[kerouac9]

If you re-watch it...the S was shading over to Floyd's side and then flipped once Palmer started the throw. Palmer probably would have liked to have the throw back, but that is the type of offense this is.

Yeah. You hate to see it considering the situation, but when you're going to push the ball down the field, you have to live with these from time to time.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

He will never say it, but I believe Palmer's arm was not 100% right. Not sure if it was hurting him a bit or maybe he landed on it or took a shot to it during the game. But he just seemed to strain on some of those passes he usually looks so comfortable throwing. Something besides the Rams rush was making him look uncomfortable and not totally zoned in on all his passes. Maybe someone who studies the tape can tell if I am correct or not.

 

[Darkside]

He will never say it, but I believe Palmer's arm was not 100% right. Not sure if it was hurting him a bit or maybe he landed on it or took a shot to it during the game. But he just seemed to strain on some of those passes he usually looks so comfortable throwing. Something besides the Rams rush was making him look uncomfortable and not totally zoned in on all his passes. Maybe someone who studies the tape can tell if I am correct or not.

I didn't see this at all. He was still throwing the outs, one of the toughest throws in football, with great velocity. I actually thought he played well considering he had guys all around him all game. Let's not forget he got hurt against this team last year, and this year they wanted to hit him BAD, they were like sharks on chum.

Sometimes we just have to live with the way things turn out. Had he completed the pass to DJ for a first down, and we run 3 straight times (kidding, obviously we're throwing for the TD there haha), run the clock, and kick the game winning field goal--had that happened, we're talking about what a great game he had and how he orchestrated such a great win. Had we won yesterday because of him, we'd have a ton of threads about how he's one of the best QB's in football so far this year.

I thought he had a good game to be honest. Didn't like the 4th and 2 pass to DJ, but the rest of it, I thought he made good decisions and was accurate. 64% completion percentage against their D isn't bad at all. He had some drops too.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I didn't see this at all. He was still throwing the outs, one of the toughest throws in football, with great velocity. I actually thought he played well considering he had guys all around him all game. Let's not forget he got hurt against this team last year, and this year they wanted to hit him BAD, they were like sharks on chum.

Sometimes we just have to live with the way things turn out. Had he completed the pass to DJ for a first down, and we run 3 straight times (kidding, obviously we're throwing for the TD there haha), run the clock, and kick the game winning field goal--had that happened, we're talking about what a great game he had and how he orchestrated such a great win. Had we won yesterday because of him, we'd have a ton of threads about how he's one of the best QB's in football so far this year.

I thought he had a good game to be honest. Didn't like the 4th and 2 pass to DJ, but the rest of it, I thought he made good decisions and was accurate. 64% completion percentage against their D isn't bad at all. He had some drops too.

Agree. Palmer looked pretty good under adverse conditions yesterday. He's definitely not the reason we lost.