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[BullheadCardFan]

POSTED 11:47 p.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 12:26 a.m. EST, March 3, 2007​

GIANTS, COWBOYS, REDSKINS DOING DAVIS DANCE​

Three teams in the NFC East are positioning themselves to possibly sign offensive lineman Leonard Davis. Specifically, the Giants, Cowboys, and Redskins are in the mix for the six-year veteran.​

But each team has designs on him at different positions.

In New York, he'd likely be the replacement for Luke Petitgout at left tackle.

In Washington, Davis would likely step in at left guard for Derrick Dockery, who signed with the Bills on Friday.

In Dallas, Davis would be the new right tackle, taking over for Marc Colombo.​

The problem, as we mentioned earlier on Saturday, is that Davis supposedly wants $23 million in guaranteed money. It's a hugh amount, but not out of line in light of the huge amounts paid to guys like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, and Kris Dielman. Among the three of them, there are a grand total of ZERO Pro Bowl appearances.
ZERO.​

But, as we always say, a player is worth precisely what someone will pay him. The fact that Steinbach and Dockery and Dielman have found their pots of gold doesn't mean that Davis will. Nevertheless, to the extent that these three signings are evidence of what the market currently is for second-tier offensive linemen, Davis is at least in the ballpark.​

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

 

[Duckjake]

Among the three of them, there are a grand total of ZERO Pro Bowl appearances.
ZERO.

Aren't Pro Bowl selections for linemen mainly based on prior reputation and how many games your team won more so than how they played that particular season?

 

[moklerman]

Nevertheless, to the extent that these three signings are evidence of what the market currently is for second-tier offensive linemen, Davis is at least in the ballpark.

Whether or not it eventually works out, I still agree with the Cardinals decision...perhaps not the approach, but the decision to not overpay a questionable achiever.

 

[ThunderCard]

"This is an organization committed to winning," Davis said. "I haven't had an opportunity to win games out in Arizona. It's probably time for a change of scenery for me."

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=25107

I am sorry but Davis does not say anything bad about the Cards and he is telling the truth. At least he did not throw us under the bus like Simeon Rice with the whole " Cards are the armpit of the NFL". Davis gave a good effort and should have been retained for either trade considerations or kept as our starting Left Tackle. Not only are we out a LT, but watch us reach for Levi Brown because of it.

 

[BACH]

Good luck Big, you deserve better. I gurantee if the FO keeps this crap up in the next 5-7 years if not sooner we'll be saying goodbye to Fitz, Boldin, and Leinart.

Aeneas Williams and Simeon Rice and Thomas Jones and Ken Harvey and Tim McDonald and Jay Novacek and Kyle Vanden Bosch and 500 other players didn't have an opportunity to win many games in Arizona either.

Most of them gladly let the door hit them in the rear as they left town.

Hopefully the trend ends with Davis.

Ahh, the selective memory strikes back!

Funny, that the incompetent FO that is letting Big leave was smart enough to extent Boldin, give Leinart and Fitz overvalued deals compared to their slot and extent Wilson before he became one of the most dominating players in the league.

Also funny that the incompetent FO let Pro-Bowlers Jones and KVB go without compensation. Afterall, KVB signed a minimum deal with the only other team that offered him a contract and Jones was let go by his next team as well. I'm sure that if I had been the GM, I would have been able to get multiple 1st rounders for them....

 

[Zeno]

Ahh, the selective memory strikes back!

Funny, that the incompetent FO that is letting Big leave was smart enough to extent Boldin, give Leinart and Fitz overvalued deals compared to their slot and extent Wilson before he became one of the most dominating players in the league.

Talk about selective memory, Boldin held out until he got a new deal...he forced their hand.

Leinart was the last hold out of all the rookies last season...again he forced their hand.

This wasn't the front office being generous or foresighted this was the front office being backed in to a corner with little or no choice to get a deal done.

 

[Evil Ash]

Talk about selective memory, Boldin held out until he got a new deal...he forced their hand.

No they were going to give him a new deal but one couldn't be signed until one year after he signed his initial deal. He wanted to make sure he wasn't hurt in mini-camps but nothing could be done due to the rule.

Nothing could be done on either side really

 

[BACH]

Talk about selective memory, Boldin held out until he got a new deal...he forced their hand.

Leinart was the last hold out of all the rookies last season...again he forced their hand.

This wasn't the front office being generous or foresighted this was the front office being backed in to a corner with little or no choice to get a deal done.

Nope!

Boldin stayed away from voluntary camp to send a message. There was never any hold-out, since he showed for mandatory camps.

But, you're just making excuses for your point of view.

The question is simple! Fact or non-fact?
- Did the team extent Boldin despite him being under contract for two more years?
- Does Fitz have the 2nd biggest total deal ever signed by a rookie in the NFL? (Behind Bush BTW)
- Is Leinart's deal valued as he was the 6th-7th pick - and not the 10th pick?

 

[BACH]

No they were going to give him a new deal but one couldn't be signed until one year after he signed his initial deal. He wanted to make sure he wasn't hurt in mini-camps but nothing could be done due to the rule.

Nothing could be done on either side really

Actually not true.

There were contract talks after his first season, but the contract couldn't be signed at that point.

Boldin then gets injured, and the team doesn't give him the deal until they know, that he's okay.

 

[Zeno]

Nope!

Boldin stayed away from voluntary camp to send a message. There was never any hold-out, since he showed for mandatory camps.

But, you're just making excuses for your point of view.

The question is simple! Fact or non-fact?
- Did the team extent Boldin despite him being under contract for two more years?
- Does Fitz have the 2nd biggest total deal ever signed by a rookie in the NFL? (Behind Bush BTW)
- Is Leinart's deal valued as he was the 6th-7th pick - and not the 10th pick?

A hold out is a hold out, Boldin didn't show up for the first camp because the Cards weren't trying to get a deal done on his contract--when the Cards agreed to sit down with his agent he decided to end his holdout.

Leinart was the last holdout in the NFL last season. The Cardinals didn't give him a good deal because they are so squared away. They had NO choice if they wanted their QB in camp.

I don't care what Fitz got, he was a top 3 pick. He got a smaller bonus than the guy drafted ahead of him(Gallery) but more guranteed money.

 

[Duckjake]

Ahh, the selective memory strikes back!

Funny, that the incompetent FO that is letting Big leave was smart enough to extent Boldin, give Leinart and Fitz overvalued deals compared to their slot and extent Wilson before he became one of the most dominating players in the league.

Also funny that the incompetent FO let Pro-Bowlers Jones and KVB go without compensation. Afterall, KVB signed a minimum deal with the only other team that offered him a contract and Jones was let go by his next team as well. I'm sure that if I had been the GM, I would have been able to get multiple 1st rounders for them....

What does any of that have to do with the fact that the guys I mentioned didn't have an opportunity to win games in Arizona? Or that they were glad to leave?