Rams continue to grow money: sign Bobby Wagner

[DVontel]

As long as they remain in LA, Rams & Chargers are going to have no problem attracting players.

 

[Dayman]

7 sacks in 200 defensive snaps?

267, actually, which makes the contract even more ridiculous. Why would you give $12 million to a soon to be 28-year-old who has played a total of 267 defensive snaps? He is making significantly more per year than our leading pass rusher.

 

[Chopper0080]

hmmm im not sure about this.

Does that guy even have 5 years left in the league?

Does it matter? No one cares about 5 years from now.

 

[tnmike]

Bobby wagner was on a terrible defensive team and still beasted out. Cardinals dont want to compete its obvious. instead of paying kyler trade him and start rebuild because we are not beating rams any time soon. might as well wait for their contracts to end on the rams.

Yes run for your life !!!!

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Like I said. Cap means nothing if you really want to win.
The Rams we’re supposed to be in cap hell after all their big signings last year.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yea how the Rams just Dole out massive contract after massive contract is beyond me.

It's more the fact that the Rams could do it more than the signing itself.

 

[HairZach]

Bobby wagner was on a terrible defensive team and still beasted out. Cardinals dont want to compete its obvious. instead of paying kyler trade him and start rebuild because we are not beating rams any time soon. might as well wait for their contracts to end on the rams.

How about we sign Kyler to a massive deal but instead of backloading his deal we front load it. That way the cap hits become small right as the Rams are starting to lose pieces.

 

[HairZach]

Like I said. Cap means nothing if you really want to win.
The Rams we’re supposed to be in cap hell after all their big signings last year.

From what I read the Rams are just now getting big cap hits from Goff and Gurley off their books.
These links might help everyone understand the cap magic with the Rams compared to us. It doesn't have Bobby on the books yet. The big thing to me is how much money we've spent on Hudson and Humphries.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/yearly/cap/

2024 Arizona Cardinals Cap Table

The Arizona Cardinals 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

 

[Cheesebeef]

From what I read the Rams are just now getting big cap hits from Goff and Gurley off their books.
These links might help everyone understand the cap magic with the Rams compared to us. It doesn't have Bobby on the books yet. The big thing to me is how much money we've spent on Hudson and Humphries.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/yearly/cap/

2024 Arizona Cardinals Cap Table

The Arizona Cardinals 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

Remember when everyone said the Goff and Gurley contracts were gonna choke the Rams cap and screw them for years?

How people keep trotting out that line of thinking… every single year for what’s been half a decade now is beyond me.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

In the words of JJ Watt, “but, but, but, but…”

 

[Cheesebeef]

If we signed a 32 year old LB to a 5 year deal at $10m per this board would go nuts.

It's probably more like a 2 year $15m per deal when the detail comes out.

But either way, no thanks.

The Cards ain't competing with the Rams. Even trying to would be a ridiculous waste of resources. The Rams were already way ahead of us in roster construction and if we went out and blew this year and next years cap all at once we would still be lagging.

We are building a roster for 2nd place and the playoffs. Better to save the cap space until the Rams strategy catches up with them, which it eventually will.

2018 called… they want it’s bad take back.

 

[slanidrac16]

Yea how the Rams just Dole out massive contract after massive contract is beyond me.

Obviously it’s beyond Keim.

 

[slanidrac16]

This is not about the Rams signing Wagner. I could’nt care less. It’s watching other teams signing players and improving their team.
We could of signed a guy like Cedric Wilson or Byron Pringle.

Say what????

That’s right. neither one of those guys would have been cap breaking earth shattering signings. Instead we are either going to use a 1st round pick on a Wr, or we’ll draft a “ gem” that “ slipped “ to us in round two. Or maybe the Wr that unbelievable luck we had that Joe Schmo slipped to the 5th round.

Worse yet we sign Green or Jones for yet another patch job contract.

We suck.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This is not about the Rams signing Wagner. I could’nt care less. It’s watching other teams signing players and improving their team.
We could of signed a guy like Cedric Wilson or Byron Pringle.

Say what????

That’s right. neither one of those guys would have been cap breaking earth shattering signings. Instead we are either going to use a 1st round pick on a Wr, or we’ll draft a “ gem” that “ slipped “ to us in round two. Or maybe the Wr that unbelievable luck we had that Joe Schmo slipped to the 5th round.

Worse yet we sign Green or Jones for yet another patch job contract.

We suck.

LOL @ Byron Pringle.

That's like hand wringing at not signing Trent Sheffield.

 

[Krangodnzr]

From what I read the Rams are just now getting big cap hits from Goff and Gurley off their books.
These links might help everyone understand the cap magic with the Rams compared to us. It doesn't have Bobby on the books yet. The big thing to me is how much money we've spent on Hudson and Humphries.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/yearly/cap/

2024 Arizona Cardinals Cap Table

The Arizona Cardinals 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

Humphries is being paid an average salary for a LT. Not a bad contract at all.

 

[slanidrac16]

LOL @ Byron Pringle.

That's like hand wringing at not signing Trent Sheffield.

It’s better than what we have. I’m sure Malik Turner will push us over the line. Read the whole post.
Affordable, fast, and would be great as a 3rd or 4th option.
I guess your right 42 catches for 550 yards and 5 touchdowns really sucks.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Dont worry yall our friend kiem at bar somewhere now talkin bout his new small school secret weapon lol /facepalm

 

[BigRedRage]

You don't draft ilb #1 2 years straight and then sign bobby Wagner at 31

 

[Cheesebeef]

You don't draft ilb #1 2 years straight and then sign bobby Wagner at 31

You miss the point entirely of why people are upset here.

People here didn’t want to sign Wagner. It’s the fact that the Rams consistently find ways to not only win big, but figure out a way to keep adding big pieces to their team despite always being in “cap hell.” Meanwhile, the Cardinals have done nothing this off-season to add to last year’s team, while losing big pieces of what made the team successful for the first 3/4s of the season before their epic collapse.

Not really that hard to understand.

 

[Jetstream Green]

This is not about the Rams signing Wagner. I could’nt care less. It’s watching other teams signing players and improving their team.
We could of signed a guy like Cedric Wilson or Byron Pringle.

Say what????

That’s right. neither one of those guys would have been cap breaking earth shattering signings. Instead we are either going to use a 1st round pick on a Wr, or we’ll draft a “ gem” that “ slipped “ to us in round two. Or maybe the Wr that unbelievable luck we had that Joe Schmo slipped to the 5th round.

Worse yet we sign Green or Jones for yet another patch job contract.

We suck.

I am calling it now, the Cards are going for need in the first with a edge rusher regardless of who else is there. That's the one position they have not even seem to give a token nod towards

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

How about we sign Kyler to a massive deal but instead of backloading his deal we front load it. That way the cap hits become small right as the Rams are starting to lose pieces.

He’ll then complain he’s underpaid at that time and hold out for a contract better reflecting those of his peers completely ignoring the front loading.

 

[AZ Native]

He’ll then complain he’s underpaid at that time and hold out for a contract better reflecting those of his peers completely ignoring the front loading.

Probably, so what do we do with him?

 

[DVontel]

Probably, so what do we do with him?

Lets not turn a non-Kyler or even non-Cardinal thread to something else….again.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Probably, so what do we do with him?

Have no choice but to give him big extension and just pray that (a) he matures; and (b) keim can build (somehow) some talent around him.

 

[AZ Native]

Lets not turn a non-Kyler or even non-Cardinal thread to something else….again.

I was responding to a prior post about KM. Let's not pretend what we do with him doesn't affect everything we can do moving ahead. This is a Cardinals' board, it all comes back to us.