Rebuilding??

[Shane]

Not according to these guys:

If there was anything that came out of Tuesday’s press conference, it was the cohesive thought process between Palmer and his new head coach about trying to win now.

“At the point I am in in my career, I want to win now,” Palmer said. “I don’t have years to build.”

“I was confident someone would be able to be shaken loose somewhere (and) I was hoping it was him.” Why? “I was hoping (the Raiders) would go to a youth movement, and we are not at that stage,” Arians said. “This is too good a football team.”

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...To-Cards/b0fb25b3-bc64-41e9-b002-988f37778888

 

[Gee!]

They need to give drug tests on Warner and Hardy.. Im pretty sure drugs are illegal in the NFL..

 

[Shane]

They need to give drug tests on Warner and Hardy.. Im pretty sure drugs are illegal in the NFL..

You are usually wrong so I think the odds of being good just went up

Almost always a kool Aider and we see where that has gotten us!

 

[Jim Hart]

Nothing wrong with not bending over whilst rebuilding.

 

[Gee!]

You are usually wrong so I think the odds of being good just went up

Almost always a kool Aider and we see where that has gotten us!

I am mostly right.. Told you about the Cason signing.. And Kolb being cut.. Just a day late.. I never talked about FEZ and hot tubs.. You know that..

And been a Koolaider for the whole besides this season.. Should tell you something..

And you also know I have the best interest of the Cards ..

Just stop..

 

[Shane]

I am mostly right.. Told you about the Cason signing.. And Kolb being cut.. Just a day late.. I never talked about FEZ and hot tubs.. You know that..

And been a Koolaider for the whole besides this season.. Should tell you something..

And you also know I have the best interest of the Cards ..

Just stop..

You are always telling us how the cards gonna ear it up!! We see how that turns out 90% of the time. Now that you say they suck we just MAY have a chance

 

[desertdawg]

If they can keep the defense near what it was last year, we can really mess with the playoff schedule like we did last year giving the Whiners homefield against the Chickens. But if we don't get in the playoffs, uh ...

 

[Gee!]

You are always telling us how the cards gonna ear it up!! We see how that turns out 90% of the time. Now that you say they suck we just MAY have a chance

haha.. Maybe.. Hope so..

 

[52brandon]

Not according to these guys:

If there was anything that came out of Tuesday’s press conference, it was the cohesive thought process between Palmer and his new head coach about trying to win now.

“At the point I am in in my career, I want to win now,” Palmer said. “I don’t have years to build.”

“I was confident someone would be able to be shaken loose somewhere (and) I was hoping it was him.” Why? “I was hoping (the Raiders) would go to a youth movement, and we are not at that stage,” Arians said. “This is too good a football team.”

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...To-Cards/b0fb25b3-bc64-41e9-b002-988f37778888

I agree with Arians. I always thought we were only a few pieces away from being good. Sadly one was the most important piece (QB). When we had decent to good QB play last year, we won games. Including in NE

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Im drinking the coolaid but we would need some Kurt Warner magic out of Carson to contend. If Cards had a dominant pass rusher, an above average line, and a playmaking safety id alter that statement.

 

[Hollywood]

I agree with Arians. I always thought we were only a few pieces away from being good. Sadly one was the most important piece (QB). When we had decent to good QB play last year, we won games. Including in NE

We are on the same page but don't read too much into the first 4 weeks of last season. The refs had as much (if not more) to do with our wins as the players did.

 

[Jim Hart]

We are on the same page but don't read too much into the first 4 weeks of last season. The refs had as much (if not more) to do with our wins as the players did.

Grass was not slicker on our side of the field the entirety of each of those 4 games. We caught some good breaks, sure. We also were on the receiving end of bad breaks in a few games. In regards to last year, I blame more of the people, and decisions made off-field, than those made on. And I was a CKW supporter. Massie will be a starter for years to come, he belongs on the field gameday. Potter will be a serviceable in the least. Remember, he was way under weight/strength at the beginning of last year. He held well towards the end, and I saw enough in him to believe he'll be around for at least a few more years with the Cards, and most likely more. Guy learns quickly. Both do. (OL most underrated skilled position in all of sports imo) Not even bringing up Kelemente and the promise he showed. Not completely buying into the new staff yet, but I'm willing to give them a chance. Our team is not full of scrubs. Not at all.

 

[Jim Hart]

^ Apologize for the lack of paragraphs. Typed it so, and tried to edit so. I did not fail because of my work ethic, nor my skills. Simply because of the lack of direction on our staff.

 

[52brandon]

We are on the same page but don't read too much into the first 4 weeks of last season. The refs had as much (if not more) to do with our wins as the players did.

I remember plenty of times that refs decided games out of our favor as well. Not that the refs were good, but that's not why we won. Remember vs SEA game 1? When they got like 7-8 tries and an extra timeout in the redzone on their last drive of the game? The garbage refs sure weren't pulling for us there, but our beast D dug in and pulled a scrappy, ugly win

 

[52brandon]

Grass was not slicker on our side of the field the entirety of each of those 4 games. We caught some good breaks, sure. We also were on the receiving end of bad breaks in a few games. In regards to last year, I blame more of the people, and decisions made off-field, than those made on. And I was a CKW supporter. Massie will be a starter for years to come, he belongs on the field gameday. Potter will be a serviceable in the least. Remember, he was way under weight/strength at the beginning of last year. He held well towards the end, and I saw enough in him to believe he'll be around for at least a few more years with the Cards, and most likely more. Guy learns quickly. Both do. (OL most underrated skilled position in all of sports imo) Not even bringing up Kelemente and the promise he showed. Not completely buying into the new staff yet, but I'm willing to give them a chance. Our team is not full of scrubs. Not at all.

Massie was our best value in the draft, no question. A starting RG in the 4th round? I'll take that all day. Potter looked good, I don't see why he's being shrugged off by Arians in favor of Levi, but I hope he gets a chance to prove his worth, and whichever is better in a fair comparison, I hope gets the start. If he improves to where I really believe he can (and where many draft analysts expected in 2011. He was slated right after the '11 draft to be a 1st round pick in '12), he could easily take the "best 2012 draft value" title away from Massie. I also think Kelemete looked good in camp and preseason. I couldn't understand why Whiz didn't even dress him. I hope he gets a fair shot as well. With the addition of Warmack, we may just have (talented) fresh faces at every spot on the line from just these 2 years in the draft. With only one high pick even having to be used on Warmack

(then we can hear how Arians won with Whiz's roster lol. Ah the Cardinals and their "pay it forward" employees)

 

[Hollywood]

Grass was not slicker on our side of the field the entirety of each of those 4 games. We caught some good breaks, sure. We also were on the receiving end of bad breaks in a few games. In regards to last year, I blame more of the people, and decisions made off-field, than those made on. And I was a CKW supporter. Massie will be a starter for years to come, he belongs on the field gameday. Potter will be a serviceable in the least. Remember, he was way under weight/strength at the beginning of last year. He held well towards the end, and I saw enough in him to believe he'll be around for at least a few more years with the Cards, and most likely more. Guy learns quickly. Both do. (OL most underrated skilled position in all of sports imo) Not even bringing up Kelemente and the promise he showed. Not completely buying into the new staff yet, but I'm willing to give them a chance. Our team is not full of scrubs. Not at all.

We are on the same page but don't read too much into the first 4 weeks of last season. The refs had as much (if not more) to do with our wins as the players did.

I remember plenty of times that refs decided games out of our favor as well. Not that the refs were good, but that's not why we won. Remember vs SEA game 1? When they got like 7-8 tries and an extra timeout in the redzone on their last drive of the game? The garbage refs sure weren't pulling for us there, but our beast D dug in and pulled a scrappy, ugly win

It wasn't just the big screwups. It was mostly the little things that most people didn't see....like Batiste holding on every play...and I mean EVERY play.

 

[52brandon]

It wasn't just the big screwups. It was mostly the little things that most people didn't see....like Batiste holding on every play...and I mean EVERY play.

not like he was the only one doing it though

 

[Duckjake]

Massie was our best value in the draft, no question. A starting RG in the 4th round? I'll take that all day. Potter looked good, I don't see why he's being shrugged off by Arians in favor of Levi, but I hope he gets a chance to prove his worth, and whichever is better in a fair comparison, I hope gets the start. If he improves to where I really believe he can (and where many draft analysts expected in 2011. He was slated right after the '11 draft to be a 1st round pick in '12), he could easily take the "best 2012 draft value" title away from Massie. I also think Kelemete looked good in camp and preseason. I couldn't understand why Whiz didn't even dress him. I hope he gets a fair shot as well. With the addition of Warmack, we may just have (talented) fresh faces at every spot on the line from just these 2 years in the draft. With only one high pick even having to be used on Warmack

(then we can hear how Arians won with Whiz's roster lol. Ah the Cardinals and their "pay it forward" employees)

More like Horton's players. Hard to believe that in 6 seasons in Arizona CKW didn't draft and develop one star offensive player. Not one. The best was Andre Roberts and Housler is ok plus he didn't have time with Floyd and Massie but none of them right now are in the class of DWash, Peterson and Calais.

But to be fair, other than WR, neither has any other coach. Kurt Warner in 2008 is the only Cardinal offensive player to make the pro bowl who wasn't a WR since Larry Centers and Lomas Brown in 1996. (At WR we've not only had 4 different guys make the pro bowl since then 3 of them were 1st team All-Pro!)

Hopefully the new, old, guys will do better.

 

[JeffGollin]

It's hard to predict whether you're going to hit it big on Broadway, but so far, I love the script and like the players. You can't ask for much more than that.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

“To be a quarterback coming to a team where a receiver runs things and pretty much is the one everyone looks up to is a unique situation for me,” Palmer said.

Maybe this being Fitz' team will help take some of the pressure off Palmer?

 

[52brandon]

More like Horton's players. Hard to believe that in 6 seasons in Arizona CKW didn't draft and develop one star offensive player. Not one. The best was Andre Roberts and Housler is ok plus he didn't have time with Floyd and Massie but none of them right now are in the class of DWash, Peterson and Calais.

But to be fair, other than WR, neither has any other coach. Kurt Warner in 2008 is the only Cardinal offensive player to make the pro bowl who wasn't a WR since Larry Centers and Lomas Brown in 1996. (At WR we've not only had 4 different guys make the pro bowl since then 3 of them were 1st team All-Pro!)

Hopefully the new, old, guys will do better.

I was talking about if the 3 guys drafted last year end up successfully starting on the o-line. It would be awesomely ironic to improve 60% of our o-line in the mid-late rounds of the 2013 draft (which, considering they're all young, talented and impressionable; and will be working with many more coaches on the line. I think that the way Arians set up his coaching staff will hugely benefit the young guys on the line.I look forward to seeing how it plays out)