Receivers Lack Confidence in Leinart

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Receivers lack confidence in Leinart

Profootballtalk.com
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 21, 2010 11:02 AM ET

Kurt Warner's retirement talk has forced the Cardinals to consider a future without him. Doubts remain about the next man up in Arizona: Matt Leinart.

Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic says Leinart has to re-gain the trust of his receivers. "Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps," Somers writes.

Leinart also faces questions about his passion for football. He's turned around the perception regarding lax work habits the last two years, but it's difficult to measure up to Warner.

The receivers' lack of confidence speaks more to Leinart's talent than work ethic. After four years in the NFL, we still have no idea whether Leinart is good enough to succeed as a starting quarterback.

The Cardinals hope they don't have to find out in 2010.

 

[Totally_Red]

Here's the blog they are referencing:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/72078

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The my friend is what you call creating something out of nothing, and taking something out of context.

That is some shady stuff right there.

Somer's blog explains the situation much better.

 

[earthsci]

The my friend is what you call creating something out of nothing, and taking something out of context.

That is some shady stuff right there.

Somer's blog explains the situation much better.

Agreed.

 

[CardLogic]

PFT: Should change their name to PFFFT!

 

[Totally_Red]

The my friend is what you call creating something out of nothing, and taking something out of context.

That is some shady stuff right there.

Somer's blog explains the situation much better.

Yeah, something like "the receivers don't fully trust Leinart yet" would be far more accurate. I can see where Q would feel that way after he got hurt leaping for a high pass from Matt.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Yeah, something like "the receivers don't fully trust Leinart yet" would be far more accurate. I can see where Q would feel that way after he got hurt leaping for a high pass from Matt.

There is no doubt that Leinart was not throwing the ball well last year. I am just commenting on the PFFT title.

But since you brought it up. Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner are both tied in the statistic for throwing a ball high to Aquan Boldin and getting him hurt.

 

[Shane]

The my friend is what you call creating something out of nothing, and taking something out of context.

That is some shady stuff right there.

Somer's blog explains the situation much better.

How so?

"Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps,"

That's a direct quote from Kent Somers who is in and around the Cards and their players about as much as Urban. He is also known to be a VERY stand up guy. I highly doubt that Somers would say something to that effect unless it were true and something he had been told by the WR corps. He isnt a "smut journalist" in anyway shape or form.

Now if the guy at PFT made it up and the quote is false or misconstrued then you would be right. But as it stands Somers is a pretty credible source.

 

[Shane]

But since you brought it up. Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner are both tied in the statistic for throwing a ball high to Aquan Boldin and getting him hurt.

Oh for crying out loud. No they aren't. You can watch this a million times. This ball was not too high in anyway shape or form. It was a nicely thrown ball at chest level that lead him perfectly. at 18 seconds in its clear as day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9eZM_FcoQ

 

[Stout]

How so?

"Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps,"

That's a direct quote from Kent Somers who is in and around the Cards and their players about as much as Urban. He is also known to be a VERY stand up guy. I highly doubt that Somers would say something to that effect unless it were true and something he had been told by the WR corps. He isnt a "smut journalist" in anyway shape or form.

Now if the guy at PFT made it up and the quote is false or misconstrued then you would be right. But as it stands Somers is a pretty credible source.

Translation of Somers: "Well, all the receivers say they are confident in him, but I am going to derive that they're lying to me" lol Spin can work lots of different ways, shane

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

How so?

"Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps,"

That's a direct quote from Kent Somers who is in and around the Cards and their players about as much as Urban. He is also known to be a VERY stand up guy. I highly doubt that Somers would say something to that effect unless it were true and something he had been told by the WR corps. He isnt a "smut journalist" in anyway shape or form.

Now if the guy at PFT made it up and the quote is false or misconstrued then you would be right. But as it stands Somers is a pretty credible source.

it also says with more practice time and confidence that Leinart should be able to correct that problem. The PFT guy conveniently didn't mention that.

 

[Shane]

it also says with more practice time and confidence that Leinart should be able to correct that problem. The PFT guy conveniently didn't mention that.

Honestly that may be true and may not be true. None of us know how Leinart will perform with more reps. Based on history it may not help much. It has nothing to do with the overall confidence of the WR corps at this time. Somers is as credible a source as they come. If he said it you almost have to put some stock into it.

No doubt this was going to get some poster's all wound up

 

[NeverSayDieFan]

As with all things..I trust Whiz' judgement...

Right now, he seems to think Matt can do it! That's good enough for me. GO CARDS!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Oh for crying out loud.

WAAAAH.

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No they aren't. You can watch this a million times. This ball was not too high in anyway shape or form. It was a nicely thrown ball at chest level that lead him perfectly. at 18 seconds in its clear as day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9eZM_FcoQ

Yep you are correct that is a well thrown ball. Still got Anquan killed.

So while not competely accurate my point still stands.

 

[Shane]

So while not competely accurate my point still stands.

Which one?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

How so? .

Read below

That's a direct quote from Kent Somers .

No it is not. It is only half the quote.

Now if the guy at PFT made it up and the quote is false or misconstrued then you would be right. But as it stands Somers is a pretty credible source.

And that is what PFT did. Misconstrued the orignal quote, to make is sound like more than what Somers said.

Kent Somers who is in and around the Cards and their players about as much as Urban. He is also known to be a VERY stand up guy. I highly doubt that Somers would say something to that effect unless it were true and something he had been told by the WR corps. He isnt a "smut journalist" in anyway shape or form. .

I guess you decided not to read this part.

Somer's blog explains the situation much better.

Eventhough the post was only 3 lines long.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

also, any QB in the league is going to pale in comparison if you're going against Kurt Warner in the accuracy department.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Which one?

Leinart threw a pass = Boldin hurt (and please keep in mind I am still angry at him and Coach Whiz. Injustifiably, but I still am)

Warner threw a pass = Boldin hurt

I doubt Q is going to be "skiddish" about getting hurt with Leinart throwing the ball instead of Warner.

And I would bet that every other WR on the team would agree.

As for carrying the team the way Kurt Warner does, that is another story, and I doubt anyone expects Leinart to do what Warner does when it comes to carrying the entire offense on his shoulders.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

also, any QB in the league is going to pale in comparison if you're going against Kurt Warner in the accuracy department.

Agreed 100%.

 

[earthsci]

also, any QB in the league is going to pale in comparison if you're going against Kurt Warner in the accuracy department.

Boom. Leinart won't be as good as Warner. Not many will. IMO Leinart will be good enough to successfully lead this team if we shore up the OLine.

Kurt Warner is awesome and I'm just happy that it was the Cardinals that gave him his chance when other teams were throwing him out.

 

[Shane]

Read below



No it is not. It is only half the quote.



And that is what PFT did. Misconstrued the orignal quote, to make is sound like more than what Somers said.



I guess you decided not to read this part.



Eventhough the post was only 3 lines long.

I read Somers blog. The headline is not taken out of context in anyway. Somers states VERY CLEARLY in the blog that the WR's have lost confidence. In fact I would say that the PFT guy did Leinart a favor by not adding the part below that Im going to bold:

"Most importantly, Leinart has to re-gain the trust of his receivers. Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps.

That group loves Warner for many reasons, mainly because the Cardinals are going to throw a lot with him in the lineup. But Warner also did his best to protect his receivers, to keep them from taking big hits. When Leinart is throwing high passes, as has been his tendency, receivers tend to get a little skittish."

There is nothing in that article that detracts from the fact that the WR's don't have confidence in Matt like the headline states. Thats a fact. There is the portion Cbus mentioned that stated that maybe that can change with practice and Matt getting more confidence. But that's nothing but hope. What Somers reported and the PFT guy repeated seems to be more of a statement of fact. It certainly wasn't "shady" as you call it.

 

[Shane]

also, any QB in the league is going to pale in comparison if you're going against Kurt Warner in the accuracy department.

Well thats not exactly true. But on the same token the WR's I'm quite certain don't expect Matt to be Kurt. Anyone of them that does or any fan that does is being silly.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

There is nothing in that article that detracts form the fact that the WR's don't have confidence in Matt. Thats a fact.

LOL.

Ok, and I have some magic beans from you too. But I'll write about it in a blog so you can take it as fact.

If our WR's are now skittish when Leinart is in there, then we need new WR's.

I seem to forget who was the QB that threw the ball where Fitzgerald hurt his knee against SF, the multiple times Breaston has been crushed after the catch.

Somers is a stand up journalist but until I hear it from the WR's themselves I would be wary of saying Anquan, Fitzgerald, Breaston, or Doucet are "skittish" of going after any pass thrown by any QB.

But whatever you need to feel right.

 

[Shane]

LOL.

Ok, and I have some magic beans from you too. But I'll write about it in a blog so you can take it as fact.

If our WR's are now skittish when Leinart is in there, then we need new WR's.

I seem to forget who was the QB that threw the ball where Fitzgerald hurt his knee against SF, the multiple times Breaston has been crushed after the catch.

Somers is a stand up journalist but until I hear it from the WR's themselves I would be wary of saying Anquan, Fitzgerald, Breaston, or Doucet are "skittish" of going after any pass thrown by any QB.

But whatever you need to feel right.

More like whatever you need to make you feel right.

They don't come any better than Somers. He isn't the journalist that is going to throw crap on the wall and hope that it sticks. He knows those players and what they think. he spends a lot of time with them on a daily basis. If he printed it you can pretty much guarantee that it is what it is.

But hey I expected all you jockers to find anyway you could to detract form an abrasive statement toward Matt.

 

[nashman]

Wow Shane you must really dislike Matt, as it seems you seriously just slant this article as the receivers slighting Matt. Which none did by the way its just the word of the writer but if it makes you point I guess some people read things the way they want.