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INSIDE DISH: Redskins trying to move up for Gallery?
Dan Pompei
Posted: 51 minutes ago
The latest draft scoop is the Raiders and Redskins already might have a silent agreement to make a draft-day deal.

The Raiders would trade the second pick in the draft to the Redskins for the fifth overall pick and LT Chris Samuels. The Redskins then would select Robert Gallery to replace Samuels. The Raiders then would take WR Roy Williams or TE Kellen Winslow.


Chris Samuels could join former Redskins coach Norv Turner in Oakland.
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The deal makes sense on a couple of fronts. Raiders coach Norv Turner was Samuels' first coach in the NFL, and Redskins management has been frustrated over the inability to sign Samuels to a contract extension. The Redskins reached a similar impasse with CB Champ Bailey and subsequently traded him to Denver. . . .


One unheralded reason the Chargers and Raiders might like to trade out of the first and second spots in the draft: money. Both teams have poor fan support and unfavorable stadium contracts. To sign the first pick in the draft, the Chargers would have to cough up a signing bonus in the neighborhood of $15 million and commit to a contract worth approximately $46 million. . . .

The Packers want to cut back the playing time of Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila after the defensive end played approximately 90 percent of the defensive snaps in 2003. The thought is that Gbaja-Biamila can be more effective with more rest, so he'll be on the sideline in more first- and second-down situations. The Packers are paying Gbaja-Biamila too much for him to be a nickel pass rusher exclusively, however. The plan is for Gbaja-Biamila to be on the field about 60 percent of the time. The team also will try to help Gbaja-Biamila by using less gap control and allowing him to get up the field more. . . .

OLB Takeo Spikes had a history of hamstring problems -- until he signed with the Bills last year. On the advice of Bills strength and conditioning coordinator Rusty Jones, Spikes changed his diet and stretching routine. The result was a player who didn't miss so much as a practice last season. . . .

It isn't going to get any easier for the Titans after the coming season. They already have nearly $107 million of salary committed for 2005, which figures to be about $22 million over the projected salary cap. And they only have 31 players under contract. The two biggest salary cap hogs are DE Kevin Carter, who will take up $13.9 million worth of space, and QB Steve McNair, who will take up $12.6 million. The Titans will have to do quite a bit of creative accounting to continue to field a contending team. It's not impossible to do, as the Raiders can attest. . . .

The Vikings are encouraging DT Chris Hovan to change the way he trains. Coach Mike Tice believes Hovan was too muscular last season, and it cost him some of his lateral quickness, explosion and change-of-direction ability. Hovan weighed about 305 pounds in 2003. The Vikings would like to see him no heavier than 297 this year.

Senior writer Dan Pompei covers the NFL for Sporting News. Email him at [email protected].
 

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azdad1978 said:
INSIDE DISH: Redskins trying to move up for Gallery?
Dan Pompei
Posted: 51 minutes ago
The latest draft scoop is the Raiders and Redskins already might have a silent agreement to make a draft-day deal.

The Raiders would trade the second pick in the draft to the Redskins for the fifth overall pick and LT Chris Samuels. The Redskins then would select Robert Gallery to replace Samuels. The Raiders then would take WR Roy Williams or TE Kellen Winslow.


Chris Samuels could join former Redskins coach Norv Turner in Oakland.
Streeter Lecka/Getty Images

The deal makes sense on a couple of fronts. Raiders coach Norv Turner was Samuels' first coach in the NFL, and Redskins management has been frustrated over the inability to sign Samuels to a contract extension. The Redskins reached a similar impasse with CB Champ Bailey and subsequently traded him to Denver. . . .


One unheralded reason the Chargers and Raiders might like to trade out of the first and second spots in the draft: money. Both teams have poor fan support and unfavorable stadium contracts. To sign the first pick in the draft, the Chargers would have to cough up a signing bonus in the neighborhood of $15 million and commit to a contract worth approximately $46 million. . . .

The Packers want to cut back the playing time of Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila after the defensive end played approximately 90 percent of the defensive snaps in 2003. The thought is that Gbaja-Biamila can be more effective with more rest, so he'll be on the sideline in more first- and second-down situations. The Packers are paying Gbaja-Biamila too much for him to be a nickel pass rusher exclusively, however. The plan is for Gbaja-Biamila to be on the field about 60 percent of the time. The team also will try to help Gbaja-Biamila by using less gap control and allowing him to get up the field more. . . .

OLB Takeo Spikes had a history of hamstring problems -- until he signed with the Bills last year. On the advice of Bills strength and conditioning coordinator Rusty Jones, Spikes changed his diet and stretching routine. The result was a player who didn't miss so much as a practice last season. . . .

It isn't going to get any easier for the Titans after the coming season. They already have nearly $107 million of salary committed for 2005, which figures to be about $22 million over the projected salary cap. And they only have 31 players under contract. The two biggest salary cap hogs are DE Kevin Carter, who will take up $13.9 million worth of space, and QB Steve McNair, who will take up $12.6 million. The Titans will have to do quite a bit of creative accounting to continue to field a contending team. It's not impossible to do, as the Raiders can attest. . . .

The Vikings are encouraging DT Chris Hovan to change the way he trains. Coach Mike Tice believes Hovan was too muscular last season, and it cost him some of his lateral quickness, explosion and change-of-direction ability. Hovan weighed about 305 pounds in 2003. The Vikings would like to see him no heavier than 297 this year.

Senior writer Dan Pompei covers the NFL for Sporting News. Email him at [email protected].


Here it is folks:
NYG from SD Manning
OAK R Williams
WAS from ARI Gallery (Samuels & their #1)
SD Winslow
ARI Fitz
 

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vikesfan said:
Here it is folks:
NYG from SD Manning
OAK R Williams
WAS from ARI Gallery (Samuels & their #1)
SD Winslow
ARI Fitz

1) How the hell do you get us trading with Washington out of that!?

2) Why do we want Samuels?

3) Are smoking crack?

:shrug:
 

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For all you 'trade down' fans this would be a horrible scenario. If Gallery is the coveted prize pick and he is gone at #2 then there probably wont be lots of demand to trade into the 3rd spot.
 

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Vikesfan changed the scenario on us.

According to azdad's rumor, the draft would unfold something like this -

1. Giants (Manning but it could be Gallery and screw things up)

2. Skins (Gallery, but if Gallery went at #1, Oakland would keep the pick and, according to the rumor, draft Roy Williams or Winslow)

3. Cardinals (Fitzgerald if Manning or Gallery were gone. Trade down possibilities less likely if Giants preferred Gallery. There would be teams clamoring to grab Manning, but would Denny give up Fitzgerald in order to trade, say to #7 so the Browns could step up to get Eli?)

4. Chargers (immaterial)

5. Raiders (immaterial)

But just for fun, how would the draft unfold if the trades were made and the Cards traded down to #7?

3. Cleveland fr Cards (Roethlisberger)

4. Chargers (Fitzgerald)

5. Big Al (Roy Williams or Winslow)

6. Detroit (Taylor)

7. Cards (Mike Williams or Roy Williams)

 
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so far away said:
1) How the hell do you get us trading with Washington out of that!?

2) Why do we want Samuels?

3) Are smoking crack?

:shrug:
Well if WAS wants Gallery there he is. They need him cause he is cheaper then Samuels.
Samuels is a PRO BOWL T. DG likes to have 2 PRO BOWL type Ts on his teams. No brainer.
The only risk is SD takes Fitz instead of Winslow.
 

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vikesfan said:
Well if WAS wants Gallery there he is. They need him cause he is cheaper then Samuels.
Samuels is a PRO BOWL T. DG likes to have 2 PRO BOWL type Ts on his teams. No brainer.
The only risk is SD takes Fitz instead of Winslow.

The original post has them trading with the Raiders, why do you automatically throw us into the rumor?
 

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The Raiders would be stupid not to do this trade. They get a good lineman and still get a top five pick. Hell, if they offer the same to us, we should do it if Fitz is gone.
 

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Well, this is great for fans of taking the BPA at 3 (i.e me!).

If the Giants move up to 1 to get Manning or Gallery. And if the Skins' move up to 2 to get Gallery we are pretty much assured of getting Fitz.

Even if NY wants Gallery I'm pretty sure and hopeful the Skins' aren't looking for a WR. Worse comes to worse... Gallery goes 1 and Manning 2 or vice versa.
 

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azdad1978 said:
INSIDE DISH: Redskins trying to move up for Gallery?
Dan Pompei
Posted: 51 minutes ago
The latest draft scoop is the Raiders and Redskins already might have a silent agreement to make a draft-day deal.

The Raiders would trade the second pick in the draft to the Redskins for the fifth overall pick and LT Chris Samuels. The Redskins then would select Robert Gallery to replace Samuels. The Raiders then would take WR Roy Williams or TE Kellen Winslow.

That deal sounds so beneficial to Redskins and Raiders, I would be stupified if it didn't happen. Mortal lock for Bolts/Giants to take Manning. Al Davis gets starting veteran Tackle and choice of Roy or Kellen, Redskins get a cheaper LT and rid themselves of Samuels dilemma.

Cards would then be totally devoid of any trade leverage and be stuck with Fitz or the remaining Williams. If that is the case, I would hope Cards take Sean Taylor and pray that Woods, Clayton, Troupe or Evans is available in 2nd round.

This would be a veritable nightmare for Cards trade down supporters. :shrug:
 
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