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[Arizona's Finest]

Anyone else recall how many Eagle fans were saying "LOL not worried about your homefield" and "We won in NY" and that crowd noise wouldn't be a factor...

LMAO.....

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcwest/0-7-262/Sore-loser--Eagles--Lurie-certainly-not-gracious.html

Lurie also touched on the noisy conditions his team faced against the Cardinals, suggesting the league should have prevented Arizona from leaving its roof closed.

Philadelphia Inquirer: Should the league take control of whether a team can close the roof in the postseason?

Lurie: Yes.

Philadelphia Inquirer: Will you bring up that issue at this year's owners meetings?

Lurie: Yes. I tried to bring it up before the game and I was told when we approved these stadiums ... that the league does not take control of the dome opened-and-closed issue. My memory was wrong. I thought when we approved [Houston and Arizona] that the league takes over a playoff situation. I think it will come up and not just by me. The league should control this.
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So eagle fan....you like apples?

 

[nashman]

Whatever thats part of our HFA and should ALWAYS be controlled by us. Could we then suggest well its cold in december & january so playoff games should then be played on whichever teams field has the best weather that day. I mean if they don't want to play in the noise then we don't want to play in the snow or cold, seems only fair. Win more games losers then you get home field and don't have to worry about other stadiums and their loud fans!

 

[RedViper]

We get sent to Philly on a cross country trip, on three days rest, to play on Thanksgiving and this sad-sack wants to complain about the roof being shut at our home game? Even the pundits for once, largely called BS on that one. What a sore loser. Thats pitiful.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Philadelphia Inquirer: Because you felt you should have won both of those games?

Lurie: And we had dominated both teams. We had dominated Tampa Bay and we had dominated Arizona.

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What game was he watching ?

I forget what team pounded the ball down the field in the 4th quarter to win the game. Anyone remember ?

The only dominating I saw was when Hightower plowed over Dawkins during that drive.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Philadelphia Inquirer: Because you felt you should have won both of those games?

Lurie: And we had dominated both teams. We had dominated Tampa Bay and we had dominated Arizona.

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What game was he watching ?

I forget what team pounded the ball down the field in the 4th quarter to win the game. Anyone remember ?

The only dominating I saw was when Hightower plowed over Dawkins during that drive.

He was talking about during the regular season only to get beat in the playoffs by those same teams.

 

[BCEagle]

I think that a home team should have the right to keep the roof open or closed. Part of HFA. But I also think that seeding should be based on record, and that the team with the better record should have HFA -- even if that team is a wild card and the other team is not.

 

[Assface]

I agree with Lurie about the roof. Also, Green Bay shouldn't be allowed to have snow in January. The league should take control of weather conditions in the playoffs so it's more fair.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I think that a home team should have the right to keep the roof open or closed. Part of HFA. But I also think that seeding should be based on record, and that the team with the better record should have HFA -- even if that team is a wild card and the other team is not.

Agreed...you have to admit your owner is being a whiny little B about this one. Losing 4 of 5 NFC championship games is officially in your heads.

 

[nashman]

Thats kind of dumb too^ its always been this way a team that wins there division should have HF over a team that sqeaked in even if their records are similar. Its part of winning your division you are a higher seed and it should be that way! The Eagles should just accept they got beat by a better team, which was clear in this game for 3 out of the 4 qtrs. We came out much to relaxed in the 3rd and ALLOWED them to even be in the game, if we kept our foot on their necks it could have been a blowout like it was for the entire first half!

 

[Cheesebeef]

good lord. what a freaking loser. waaaaaaaa!!!!!! they closed their roof!!!!! waaaaaaaa!!!!!

is Lurie serious with those comments?

 

[football karma]

I think that a home team should have the right to keep the roof open or closed. Part of HFA. But I also think that seeding should be based on record, and that the team with the better record should have HFA -- even if that team is a wild card and the other team is not.

its a common sentiment

but part and parcel of this should be the elimination of divisions -- if winning the division doesnt really do anything for you -- then you shouldnt have divisions. Each team in the conference would play as balanced a schedule within the conference as possible.

 

[Scott MS]

There is nothing about the playoff seeding or home field decisions that should be changed.

The only thing that should be changed is that the last wildcard team should not expect to beat everybody they play.

 

[BCEagle]

Thats kind of dumb too^ its always been this way a team that wins there division should have HF over a team that sqeaked in even if their records are similar. Its part of winning your division you are a higher seed and it should be that way! The Eagles should just accept they got beat by a better team, which was clear in this game for 3 out of the 4 qtrs. We came out much to relaxed in the 3rd and ALLOWED them to even be in the game, if we kept our foot on their necks it could have been a blowout like it was for the entire first half!

Prior to 1975, and for the first five decades of the NFL, there was no seeding. The NFL alternated home field sites without regard to regular season record. So, it hasn't always been this way -- seeding is simply a fairer way of doing things.

One way to make it even fairer would be to seed based on record. I have no problem granting automatic placement for division winners, but what did the Chargers (to use a less incendiary example) do to deserve hosting the Colts this year? They won in a very weak division, while the Colts finished runner-up to the top seed in the conference. Should the Colts be penalized simply because they played in a tougher division? I don't think so.

 

[BCEagle]

its a common sentiment

but part and parcel of this should be the elimination of divisions -- if winning the division doesnt really do anything for you -- then you shouldnt have divisions. Each team in the conference would play as balanced a schedule within the conference as possible.

The NFL wants to keep the regional rivalries, so that probably won't change. I don't have as much of a problem with them if they promote viewership and create natural rivalries. Give every division winner an automatic seed in the tournament. (Patriots fans might beg to differ.)

But once you establish the playoff teams, the purpose of divisions has been served, and I don't see any reason to seed playoff teams based on anything other than record.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The playoffs should stay the way they are. This whining is all a bunch of sour grapes. If the Colts were that much better they should have went out and beat SD. It's simple, if you want a home game, win your division. There is no way a wild card should ever host a game. If they want to away with divisions and just let the top 6 make the playoffs then you can seed. But there is a reason for division play and you get a reward for winning it.

 

[WisconsinCard]

The playoffs should stay the way they are. This whining is all a bunch of sour grapes. If the Colts were that much better they should have went out and beat SD. It's simple, if you want a home game, win your division. There is no way a wild card should ever host a game. If they want to away with divisions and just let the top 6 make the playoffs then you can seed. But there is a reason for division play and you get a reward for winning it.

CO-SIGN

 

[red desert]

We get sent to Philly on a cross country trip, on three days rest, to play on Thanksgiving and this sad-sack wants to complain about the roof being shut at our home game? Even the pundits for once, largely called BS on that one. What a sore loser. Thats pitiful.

No ****.

 

[TJ]

Whats Lurie going to say next? The opposing team is not allowed to score more points than the Eagles?? Put this stupid issue to rest

 

[BCEagle]

The playoffs should stay the way they are. This whining is all a bunch of sour grapes. If the Colts were that much better they should have went out and beat SD. It's simple, if you want a home game, win your division. There is no way a wild card should ever host a game. If they want to away with divisions and just let the top 6 make the playoffs then you can seed. But there is a reason for division play and you get a reward for winning it.

If that game is played at Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Colts don't have to travel across two-thirds of the country and play on short rest, I think that the Colts win that game. Of course, they would then have hosted the Steelers the following week, since they beat them in Week 10. Do the Steelers beat them and still advance to the AFCCG? Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps the outcome in the AFC is very different if the better team during the regular season is given homefield advantage.

There is really nothing magical or special about winning a division beyond being better than three other teams. Wild card winners, on the other hand, have to be better than 10 other teams to get in. I cannot think of a legitimate reason to give division winners that kind of advantage.

BTW, it is possible in the current system even for a Wildcard team to host a conference championship. If the 5th and 6th seeds win out, the 5th seed wildcard team would host the 6th seed wild card team in the championship.

 

[Capital Card]

I can just see it now... "Sorry Coach Reid, the retractable dome worked just fine when we tested it yesterday, but today.... we just cant seem to get it functioning properly."

Go Cards!!!

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Lurie should be completely embarrassed by this interview.

I like one of the comments I read below the article.

"If Lurie wants to force them to close it to keep the noise down, He should be required to put a roof on his when it snows." bwhahahahaha

 

[cardsloco]

If that game is played at Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Colts don't have to travel across two-thirds of the country and play on short rest, I think that the Colts win that game. Of course, they would then have hosted the Steelers the following week, since they beat them in Week 10. Do the Steelers beat them and still advance to the AFCCG? Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps the outcome in the AFC is very different if the better team during the regular season is given homefield advantage.

There is really nothing magical or special about winning a division beyond being better than three other teams. Wild card winners, on the other hand, have to be better than 10 other teams to get in. I cannot think of a legitimate reason to give division winners that kind of advantage.

BTW, it is possible in the current system even for a Wildcard team to host a conference championship. If the 5th and 6th seeds win out, the 5th seed wildcard team would host the 6th seed wild card team in the championship.

I'm sorry this is just stupid. If the teams don't have the same common opponents record really has no meaning. The fact of the matter is eagles fans are reaching to excuse losing to us. We are the better team maybe next year you will be better.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I agree with Lurie about the roof. Also, Green Bay shouldn't be allowed to have snow in January. The league should take control of weather conditions in the playoffs so it's more fair.

LOL. Nicely done.

Remember when the Cards would have like no games in AZ in September? Why? Because no one wanted to play in the heat. But the NFL never had any problems sending people to New England or Green Bay in December.

Let the teams work with what they have. If they start interfering with this, then they'll have to start checking plans for new stadiums to make sure the design isn't giving the home field too much noise advantage.

 

[BCEagle]

I'm sorry this is just stupid. If the teams don't have the same common opponents record really has no meaning. The fact of the matter is eagles fans are reaching to excuse losing to us. We are the better team maybe next year you will be better.

Nowhere do you find me using the current format as an excuse for the Eagles losing. I am arguing the merits of the change on fairness, and I have always supported this change. Record would have the same meaning that it already has when it comes to seeding the top four seeds, so I find it odd that you would find it stupid. BTW, the Eagles would have been seeded higher on the grounds of the better record, but they also would have held the head-to-head tiebreaker versus the Cardinals even if the Eagles had lost to the Bengals.


I posted this on the EMB -- here are some other changes I advocate:

1) It seems absurd for the league to require a home team to keep its roof open or closed. How is the home field advantage that Arizona enjoyed any different than the one that Minnesota enjoyed?

2) I agree with scrapping the current seeding system in favor of one that seeds playoff teams based soley on record, and not whether they won their division. Why should the 12-4 Colts be forced to play at the 8-8 Chargers simply because the Chargers won a crappy division?

3) Maybe we do need a "10 win" rule to avoid situations like the one the Patriots ran into this year. If a division winner wins fewer than 10 games during the regular season, then they are not automatically qualified for the playoffs, and must make the playoffs only if they win tiebreakers with other conference teams.

4) I am against expanding the 12-team playoff format to 14 teams. It will just dilute the quality of teams reaching the playoffs in most years. This year (with the Patriots and Jets) was an exception.

5) Let's get rid of sudden-death overtime. Each team must have the same number of offensive series in OT. The team that is ahead at the end of a completed series pair is the winner. If no team is ahead, the teams keep playing until the OT period ends. If no team is ahead at the end of the OT period, then the game ends in a tie.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If that game is played at Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Colts don't have to travel across two-thirds of the country and play on short rest, I think that the Colts win that game.

why do you think that? whether it be in the playoffs or in the regular season, the Chargers OWN the Colts... even when the Colts are 14-0 and at home... even when both Rivers AND LT are on the bench in a playoff game in Indy... or when LT's on the bench at home in the playoffs. it wouldn't matter where they play. The Colts are the Chargers bitch.