Report per Daniel Jeremiah: Barkley leaves positive impression on Cardinals

[pacman]

I'd probably go in a comma if the Cards drafted another USC quarterback but I doubt the Cards will draft Barkley. Here's the article anyways....

ww.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000144943/article/matt-barkley-leaves-positive-impression-on-cardinals

(Add another w to the beginning of the url since Im not allowed to post links yet)

 

[THESMEL]

Im disgusted with some Cardinal fans mind sets? So Whiz pulled the plug on the Leinart plan at the last minute - after he clearly out performed every other QB we had- and now all USC QB's are demonized?

Barclay is clearly the class of this draft - He would have competeded in last years
"best draft ever" No wonder we suck forever- look at you!

 

[pacman]

Im disgusted with some Cardinal fans mind sets? So Whiz pulled the plug on the Leinart plan at the last minute - after he clearly out performed every other QB we had- and now all USC QB's are demonized?

Barclay is clearly the class of this draft - He would have competeded in last years
"best draft ever" No wonder we suck forever- look at you!

Just google the past 1st round USC quarterbacks and tell me which one of them is a franchise quarterback. It's clear that USC quarterbacks are made better by all of the talent around them. Plus, how is he considered a high value prospect after his performance at USC last year. I'm not saying I would give up on the Cards completely if they drafted Barkley, but I wouldn't be too happy.

 

[Jetstream Green]

If the Cards draft Barkley, then Arians and Moore apparently see something I do not but they sure are more qualified to see a hell of a lot more than me and I would trust it. Heck, I might be overjoyed if they think he justifies being drafted early because that would mean they think they have a QB

 

[Lagerfilled]

I'm with you except for the "early" part. We cannot afford to waste the 7th pick when he'll likely be there at 38.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

the article title is a bit misleading as Urban and Somers are mentioned as saying they don't see the Cards taking him. It even says in the article that Barkley's agent is suspected of just trying to create a buzz.

 

[Solar7]

I'm with you except for the "early" part. We cannot afford to waste the 7th pick when he'll likely be there at 38.

If he impresses at his pro day and gives good interviews, someone will take the shot on him long before 38. Teams are QB starved and would love for someone to take the reins and prove they are number one.

I still want Geno Smith, but I'd be open for Barkley. It's going to be difficult to sell another USC QB named Matt to the general fan base though.

 

[MWOOD92]

I can see the Cards moving up to the later part of the 1st to pick him up. Highly doubt he would make it to 38 with the Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders, and Browns ahead of us. I'm all for it if BA thinks he's our guy.

 

[az jam]

Draft time is the time of the year not to believe anything that is reported. No one reveals their hand.

 

[juza76]

Draft time is the time of the year not to believe anything that is reported. No one reveals their hand.

Right. Smoke screen . U dont show your real targets

 

[MWOOD92]

Im disgusted with some Cardinal fans mind sets? So Whiz pulled the plug on the Leinart plan at the last minute - after he clearly out performed every other QB we had- and now all USC QB's are demonized?

Barclay is clearly the class of this draft - He would have competeded in last years
"best draft ever" No wonder we suck forever- look at you!

People sure love to forget his junior year. EVERYONE at USC played poorly you can't blame it all on Barkley. I watched some 2012 film and I've seen NUMEROUS times where his line would give up pressure, receivers dropping passes, receivers giving up on routes, etc. Barkley can sling it farther than some people think, and I've seen him release it quickly many times when the line breaks down.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If the Cards draft Barkley, then Arians and Moore apparently see something I do not but they sure are more qualified to see a hell of a lot more than me and I would trust it. Heck, I might be overjoyed if they think he justifies being drafted early because that would mean they think they have a QB

Exactly. I'm paid to be a fan and I earn ever penny they give me. Until they prove otherwise, I'm willing to give a little respect to the guys that do this for a living. Still, I reserve the right to pounce on their stupidity if they draft Barkley and he plays down to the level I think he will.

Steve

 

[Arizona's Finest]

People sure love to forget his junior year. EVERYONE at USC played poorly you can't blame it all on Barkley. I watched some 2012 film and I've seen NUMEROUS times where his line would give up pressure, receivers dropping passes, receivers giving up on routes, etc. Barkley can sling it farther than some people think, and I've seen him release it quickly many times when the line breaks down.

Sports fans today just gobble up whatever SportsCenter or their favorite talking head feed them. And only seem to remember what they saw or were told last. I blame ADHD. Talk about Recency Bias. Ive seen Barkley play live 6 times none this past year admittedly. Alot went wrong at SC this past year. Barkley part of it. That doesnt mean you disregard that he was a Top 5 prospect after his Freshman, Sophmore, and Junior year.

Ill take Barkley in a heartbeat if Kiem and Arians see what I do after much more exhaustive research. To me Barkley = Russell Wilson.

But as others have pointed out this is a smoke screen. My guess is they want Smith and are putting this out there to throw off the scent.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Sports fans today just gobble up whatever SportsCenter or their favorite talking head feed them. And only seem to remember what they saw or were told last. I blame ADHD. Talk about Recency Bias. Ive seen Barkley play live 6 times none this past year admittedly. Alot went wrong at SC this past year. Barkley part of it. That doesnt mean you disregard that he was a Top 5 prospect after his Freshman, Sophmore, and Junior year.

Ill take Barkley in a heartbeat if Kiem and Arians see what I do after much more exhaustive research. To me Barkley = Russell Wilson.

how does Barkley = Russel Wilson? Wilson's got a gun and serious wheels and barkley's got a questionable arm and is a pure pocket passer with nothing close to Wilson's scrambling ability.

 

[Duckjake]

how does Barkley = Russel Wilson? Wilson's got a gun and serious wheels and barkley's got a questionable arm and is a pure pocket passer with nothing close to Wilson's scrambling ability.

If Arians and his team of geriatrics and Steelers castoffs take Barkley I'm on board. These guys may be old but they do know offense.

As for the Defense........... where was I? Sorryon cantosgo findonog my readingofnose glasses.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

how does Barkley = Russel Wilson? Wilson's got a gun and serious wheels and barkley's got a questionable arm and is a pure pocket passer with nothing close to Wilson's scrambling ability.

Makeup.

Russell Wilson isnt special because of his arm or his scrambling ability. Its ALL between the ears.

 

[Quinn McCollum]

If Arians wants to throw it deep and into tight windows then Barkley not the guy. Weakest arm of any of the top QB. Barkley is a dink and dunk QB all the way.

I remember when Blaine Gabbert was impressing the Cardinals in interviews at combine time. Reports like this mean little to nothing for me.

 

[pacman]

I agree with what some of you guys are saying. If the Cardinals do decide to draft Barkley, I have confidence that Arians and Moore will make a great qb out of him. Whatever direction they decide to go in, I know they will make the right call

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Makeup.

Russell Wilson isnt special because of his arm or his scrambling ability. Its ALL between the ears.

That part I agree with. He's had 1 career 300 yard passing game and that was in the playoffs. He has a very long way to go to be considered special.

However, his scrambling ability is a key to the success he has had so far.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

That part I agree with. He's had 1 career 300 yard passing game and that was in the playoffs. He has a very long way to go to be considered special.

However, his scrambling ability is a key to the success he has had so far.

Wow. Might be some east coast bias here. I hate the Seahawks but Russell Wilson is the truth.....You need to rewatch his last 6 games again. I can make the argument he is the greatest rookie QB...of all time. I dont feel that way but there is an argument to be made with is win %, rushing yards, and total and passing TDs. Not to mention every single person I have EVER heard talk about Russell worships at the altar of his maturty, depth, work ethic, and brain.

Other can have Kaepernick and RG3. Ill take Luck and then only slightly behind him Wilson.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Wow. Might be some east coast bias here. I hate the Seahawks but Russell Wilson is the truth.....You need to rewatch his last 6 games again. I can make the argument he is the greatest rookie QB...of all time. I dont feel that way but there is an argument to be made with is win %, rushing yards, and total and passing TDs. Not to mention every single person I have EVER heard talk about Russell worships at the altar of his maturty, depth, work ethic, and brain.

Other can have Kaepernick and RG3. Ill take Luck and then only slightly behind him Wilson.

I've seen plenty of Russell Wilson and he had a good year. I'm just not going to go over the top for a guy who averaged 182 yards per game throwing the ball, especially after only 1 year.

Marshawn Lynch is the best player on that offense.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

The very best thing the Cards can do is just admit there is NO franchise QB in this draft, period. To waste a high draft choice on any of these clipboard holding bench warmers will be something we will be remembering in a few years when our new coach is our ex-coach. I hope he starts his career here using logic not bending to pundits statements of how we have to draft a QB.

We need to build our team up, let the coach evaluate Kolb under reasonable playing conditions, and then let our coach secure the QB he may like via trade or in next year's draft.

How are any of this year's drafting Qbs going to handle the pressure and speed of the NFL when they couldn't even handle the combine today. Not one QB impressed anyone with their accuracy and overall QBing ability. That says a lot when none of them could get up for the importance of today. Let's face it, they just aren't that good this year. Lots of top picked highly rated QBs have been a bust, and none of these guys are even considered near that good.

There are just too many good starting players in the first 3 rounds of this draft to waste one of those picks on another project of a Qb.

With all that being said, I can still see the Cardinals drafting Geno Smith with the 7th overall pick. If coach thinks he can turn him into a franchise QB in a year while sitting behind Kolb, then Smith may be the closest thing that we may have a chance to get that will resemble the big arm and scrambling ability of Wilson and Kaepernick.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Makeup.

Russell Wilson isnt special because of his arm or his scrambling ability. Its ALL between the ears.

I couldn't agree less with this. his scrambling ability was a HUGE part of what made him so good last year. it's the combination of a big arm, scrambling AND his brains is what puts him league's ahead of Barkley. Barkley may have the kid's mental makeup, but if he doesn't have anything close resembling his physical makeup, it won't matter IMO.

and as far as Barkley's mental makeup, he fell flat on his face making incredibly dumb plays in big games this year. and that's coming from someone who isn't a slave to ESPN and actually watches all of USC's games living out in LA.

 

[Phrazbit]

Makeup.

Russell Wilson isnt special because of his arm or his scrambling ability. Its ALL between the ears.

That still does not make me think of Barkley. His moments of true big game heroics during his career at USC can be counted on no fingers. Wilson is praised for his poise and leadership, Barkley struggles under pressure and USC's team supposedly starting boxing each other out at the end of the season because players were doubting Barkley's leadership and effort.

 

[Totally_Red]

The very best thing the Cards can do is just admit there is NO franchise QB in this draft, period. To waste a high draft choice on any of these clipboard holding bench warmers will be something we will be remembering in a few years when our new coach is our ex-coach. I hope he starts his career here using logic not bending to pundits statements of how we have to draft a QB.

We need to build our team up, let the coach evaluate Kolb under reasonable playing conditions, and then let our coach secure the QB he may like via trade or in next year's draft.

How are any of this year's drafting Qbs going to handle the pressure and speed of the NFL when they couldn't even handle the combine today. Not one QB impressed anyone with their accuracy and overall QBing ability. That says a lot when none of them could get up for the importance of today. Let's face it, they just aren't that good this year. Lots of top picked highly rated QBs have been a bust, and none of these guys are even considered near that good.

There are just too many good starting players in the first 3 rounds of this draft to waste one of those picks on another project of a Qb.

I agree. The NFLN general managers pretty much said that they didn't have a first-round grade on any of them, but some team(s) would jump up into the bottom of the first round to draft a couple, most likely Smith and Barkley in that order.

Kurt Warner had probably the best take on it from the Arizona standpoint. If none of these guys are a franchise quarterback, why spend a top ten pick on them. He compared taking them too early to TN picking Locker early and JAX picking Gabbert early. He said it would probably be better to put the other pieces in place on offense, roll the dice with Kevin Kolb for another year, and get your quarterback next offseason when you'll probably have better options.

One thing that struck me from Casserly, Tannenbaum, and Pioli was that they think all these quarterbacks have flaws and are not year one starters. They all fall into the developmental category, where you hope they can be coached up to be a year two or three starter. In other words, not the kind of prospect you spend a #7 overall pick on.