Rise of the Planet of the Apes (prequel)

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After seeing the trailer, I'm having some problems suspending disbelief with this movie. Sure, intelligent apes could be dangerous, but taking over the world?

Humans have guns, bombs, rockets, planes, tanks etc. There's no way the apes could defeat us. Not to mention we outnumber them like 1,000,000-to-1.
 
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After seeing the trailer, I'm having some problems suspending disbelief with this movie. Sure, intelligent apes could be dangerous, but taking over the world?

Humans have guns, bombs, rockets, planes, tanks etc. There's no way the apes could defeat us. Not to mention we outnumber them like 1,000,000-to-1.

Yeah, I am having issues with this as well. In the original series a nuclear war played some part, which would obviously weaken the humans and kinda make an intelligent ape take over believable (in a Sci Fi sense) but this seems like a straight up fight--the apes may be stronger and more agile but thats not enough to make up for being outnumbered and outgunned.
 

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Yeah, I am having issues with this as well. In the original series a nuclear war played some part, which would obviously weaken the humans and kinda make an intelligent ape take over believable (in a Sci Fi sense) but this seems like a straight up fight--the apes may be stronger and more agile but thats not enough to make up for being outnumbered and outgunned.
Maybe they all get bitten by radioactive spiders...
 

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Yeah, I am having issues with this as well. In the original series a nuclear war played some part, which would obviously weaken the humans and kinda make an intelligent ape take over believable (in a Sci Fi sense) but this seems like a straight up fight--the apes may be stronger and more agile but thats not enough to make up for being outnumbered and outgunned.

The orginals are schizoid.

That's the idea proposed in the very first one with Charlton Heston where he sees the Statue of Liberty buried to it's neck in the sand at the end and realizes he's not just on some bizzaro world that looks exactly like earth only with apes in charge but earth in the future.

In the conquest versions, mankind has made talking apes servants and thus their numbers are greatly ehanced.

It goes back and forth, the timeline is like a tug of war between whoever got ahold of the series and did whatever they felt like.

The entire concept could be remade and done well, I hold out little hope but I'm a huge POTA geek.
 

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You'd be walking through a minefield of political correctness, and you might not get to a test screening before someone accuses the makers of the movies of comparing people of color to apes.

I have no doubt it could be done, but it would probably be easier to start from scratch with an entirely different concept than revisiting this one (that's already had five movies and a remake of the original).

I guess my thinking is if I were in the incredibly fortunate position to be offered to write this movie, I'd turn it down because I would see it the likely end of my career (either by offending the wrong people or by writing an awful movie).

The explotation theme goes all the way back to the Pharos of Egypt.
 

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The orginals are schizoid.

That's the idea proposed in the very first one with Charlton Heston where he sees the Statue of Liberty buried to it's neck in the sand at the end and realizes he's not just on some bizzaro world that looks exactly like earth only with apes in charge but earth in the future.

In the conquest versions, mankind has made talking apes servants and thus their numbers are greatly ehanced.

It goes back and forth, the timeline is like a tug of war between whoever got ahold of the series and did whatever they felt like.

The entire concept could be remade and done well, I hold out little hope but I'm a huge POTA geek.
Actually, you're a little off on Conquest. It wasn't talking apes that were trained, Caesar was the only talking ape. The rest were garden variety gorillas, chimps, and orangutans(as long as you consider apes who are strangely humanoid garden variety). Their revolt is short lived if you remember. Yes they oust the governor and the apes rebel against the authority but even Caesar admits that after that mini-uprising, they cannot succeed in an all out war against humans so Caesar says that the apes will wait it out and wait for man to destroy himself, which he does. The only other ape to speak at that point was Lisa when she said no.
 

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Rise of the Planet of the Apes

Rise of the Planet of the Apes

Release Date: August 5, 2011
Studio: 20th Century Fox
Director: Rupert Wyatt
Screenwriter: Amanda Silver, Rick Jaffa
Genre: Action, Adventure, Sci-Fi
MPAA Rating: PG-13 (for intense and frightening sequences of action and violence)
Website: ApesWillRise.com

Starring: James Franco, Freida Pinto, John Lithgow, Brian Cox, Tom Felton, David Oyelowo, Andy Serkis

Plot Summary: A single act of both compassion and arrogance leads to a war unlike any other -- and to the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." The Oscar-winning visual effects team that brought to life the worlds of "Avatar" and "Lord of the Rings" is breaking new ground, creating a CGI ape that delivers a dramatic performance of unprecedented emotion and intelligence, and epic battles on which rest the upended destinies of man and primate.

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So far the reviews I have read have been really positive.

I am looking forward to seeing this and the reviews make me think it will be better than I hoped.
 

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Pretty good movie. I enjoyed it. I had a few quibbles with the plot, but nothing major.

The film moves along briskly and the director does a good job building the tension to go along with the action sequences. It was well done, IMO.

The writers also created a pretty plausible scenario how not only could apes ascend to the top of the planet's heirarchy, but that it would almost be inevitable.

I recommend. :)
 

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I really enjoyed it. It exceeded my expectations. I loved how the story evolved.

I'm not a big Franco fan but he did a good job.

I also recommend seeing it.
 

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Pretty good movie. I enjoyed it. I had a few quibbles with the plot, but nothing major.

The film moves along briskly and the director does a good job building the tension to go along with the action sequences. It was well done, IMO.

The writers also created a pretty plausible scenario how not only could apes ascend to the top of the planet's heirarchy, but that it would almost be inevitable.

I recommend. :)

I really enjoyed it. It exceeded my expectations. I loved how the story evolved.

I'm not a big Franco fan but he did a good job.

I also recommend seeing it.

Freaking SWEET! Off to see it in about 4 hours. can't wait. Especially stoked that Renz like it :)
 
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Pretty good movie. I enjoyed it. I had a few quibbles with the plot, but nothing major.

The film moves along briskly and the director does a good job building the tension to go along with the action sequences. It was well done, IMO.

The writers also created a pretty plausible scenario how not only could apes ascend to the top of the planet's heirarchy, but that it would almost be inevitable.

I recommend. :)

Agree on all counts. The "doomsday" scenario was creative.

I also liked all the references to the original movie. Especially showing the Icarus.
 

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Freaking loved it. the build up was great. The CGI for the apes was downright amazing!

Yes the storyline for the apes to rise to the top was picture perfect IMO.
 

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Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver were the team on this movie. I don't think they've done anything of note since Hand that Rocks the Cradle.

I think it's fascinating how we've had two interpretations of Pierre Boulle's original book, and they're both being critically recieved. In fact, the 2001 remake seems so much better now when matched with this movie. The ending makes sense.

The book is still fascinating if you can find one in English. It also has a twist ending that sort of trumps the movies.
 

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A lot better than what I was excepting.
Anyone want to see a sequel that shows the apes taking over the world and leading up to the 1st movie? I imagine they will probably try it after seeing the weekend box office. Personally I don't want to see a sequel since I think this movie ended on just the right note.
 

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A lot better than what I was excepting.
Anyone want to see a sequel that shows the apes taking over the world and leading up to the 1st movie? I imagine they will probably try it after seeing the weekend box office. Personally I don't want to see a sequel since I think this movie ended on just the right note.

I'm sure they'll make a sequel where the roles are reversed and humans fight back against their ape oppressors.
 

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Not nearly as strong as I expected. A few gaping plot holes and an excruciatingly slow build up (although there were some genuinely tender moments) kept it from being top-drawer for me. Grand daughter loved it, bride really liked it, and i simply liked it ok. Nice effects, though.

3.5 out of 5 stars.
 

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I thought it was very well made and plausible.

The only part I had a problem with was when Cesar took the canisters from the fridge. He never received that medication - how'd he know what it was for and it's side effects? Yeah, yeah, he was smart and all, but ....
 

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I thought it was very well made and plausible.

The only part I had a problem with was when Cesar took the canisters from the fridge. He never received that medication - how'd he know what it was for and it's side effects? Yeah, yeah, he was smart and all, but ....

I think that he knew what the medication was since Franco took him to the lab and showed him where he was from. didn't he tell him there that his mother was given a certain drug. monkey was smart enough to see the difference between Lithgow being normal and going crazy again.
 

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Finally watched this on BRD on my home theatre.
8/10 and a worthy reboot IMO. I hope there are more POTA films to follow that are done this way.
I would have preferred a more brutally graphic realistic approach to apes pummeling cops on a bridge....not enough blood
, but thats the game with film ratings these days(PG-13 is preferred by movie studio's vs R).

So many references to the original '68 classic in this film too...i liked that.
Looking forward to a sequel.
 

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saw it on demand this weekend really liked it as did my girlfriend.

I thought the reveal at the end was obvious but I wonder how many people missed it by walking out when the credits started?

Much preferred this one to the Mark Wahlberg one and I did love all the references to the original as people pointed out before.

We liked it so much we're already planning a trip to Muir Woods although I'm hoping we don't run into any intelligent apes there.
 

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I was surprised at how good this was, and impressed with the visual effects. Holds up well 10 years later.
 

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