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Ugh. Hockey is in full swing, which is cool. But, ugh. Bored. Football offseasons are the worst. You get a free agency period, a draft, but don't get to open the presents till August.
Not a baseball fan, not a basketball fan, so this morning ? Bored.
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Thus I present a mock with a twist. Here is my mock. THE mock. The mock I stand by as the way I want things to go.
1 - Chance Warmack, OG
2 - Alex Okafor, OLB
3 - Barrett Jones, OG/OC/OT
4 - Shaun Williams, S
5 - Matt Scott, QB
6 - Michael Williams, TE
6 - Vince Williams, ILB
OK. I agree Whoop-T-Doo. The twist will be I will list my top 3 alternate picks at each spot. The alternate picks will be without outside influence. Meaning, I don't care who we have on the roster, what the Cardinals are saying, who I picked in the round before. Just at that spot what player I would like to see the Cardinals get.
Round 1: Chance Warmack, OG
A. Luke Joeckel, OT - Take one of, if not the best OT in the draft ? Sure.
B. Eric Fischer, OT - See option A. But, with less proof on tape.
C. Dion Jordan - Pass rushing is a skill, but playing the position is just as important, IMO. Not only does Jordan have some pass rushing ability, he can play the OLB'er position and all facets of it. Sam Acho is like a Dion Jordan but with much less ability to rush the passer.
Anyone of these four players makes the Cardinals team better immediately, IMO.
Honorable Mention: Dee Milliner - CB, Geno Smith - QB
Round 2: Alex Okafor, OLB
A. Menelik Watson, OT - Problem is, that in the lower rounds I have to assume the player is going to be there. Watson can easily be chosen in the 1st round. His game tape, and technique keep him from being mentioned with the top tackles. He is an amazing athlete for his size. Just watch his feet. They are quick, and coordinated. Listed as an OT, he can play anywhere on the line with his ability.
B. Tyler Wilson, QB - Gets much love from this board and for good reason. I think there are a lot of "forced QB prospects". Meaning they are being hyped up because of the desperate need for QB's in the league. Wilson is not one of those QB's. Wilson is one of the few I see doing well in the NFL. Not sold on Barkley, or any other QB's rated around this spot.
C. Jonathan Cyprien, S - Forgive me, because this is a bit of a hype pick. Has good athletic skills, and is a strong safety. Good against the run, decent cover skills, and a big hitter. Would fit right into what the Cardinals are looking for.
Honorable Mention: Datone Jones - DE, Margus Hunt - DE, Kevin Minter - ILB
Round 3: Barrett Jones, OG/OC/OT
A. Landry Jones, QB - Best value pick in the draft. If the stars align and Jones is there in the 3rd, then I think he is the pick. I just don't think he will be there, and I think he is not worth a 2nd round pick *(1st and 2nd round picks being CRUCIAL to a teams development, with a HUGE drop off at the 3rd round) Is the prototypical type of QB that Bruce Arians describes. May drop for reasons unknown, and would fit right in between "The Answer" and Brian Hoyer.
B. T.J. MacDonald, S - A player in the same mold of a Jonathan Cyprien. Is a strong safety prospect. Good against the run, physically big and a big hitter. Dare I say he TRIES to fill the role left by A-Dub.
C. Terron Armstead, OG/OT - Not so much for the 40 times as much as the athletic ability. A very, very raw player. He is not going to start year 1, and would be a push to start year 2, but has the skills for OT, or OG. If he is coachable, and can learn technique he is the type of player that doesn't dictate where he is going to play. He is the kind of player you develop and then he replaces the weakest link in a year or two. A bit of a risk, but worth it in the 3rd round.
Honorable Mention: Brandon Jenkins - OLB, Phillip Thomas - S
Round 4: Shaun Williams, S
A. Travis Kelce, TE - You don't pick for need right ? Well, Shaun Williams is my 4th pick because we need a safety and he is good value at that spot. Yet, I really, really like Travis Kelce for the Cardinals at tight end. We have Rob Housler for our "pass catching" TE, we have a healthy Jeff King for our blocking TE, but we need that tweener, good blocker/decent pass catcher. Kelce fits the mold perfectly. He would be a 4th round pick that may be starting game 1.
B. David Quessenberry, OG/OC - Another good athlete (see a trend here ?) that can play OG, or OC. He reminds me of a Nate Potter type player. Has the skills, but not the power an bulk. Adam Snyder, and Lyle Sendlein are going to have to fight for their jobs, and big money contracts, if we bring in at player like Quessenberry. At worst he is depth for both OG, and OC.
C. La'Veon Bell, RB - Don't understand the love for Christine Michael. Bell may be there in the 4th, and IMO, is the superior running back. He would fit better with what the Caridnals have in house. Big back, with good speed and quickness. A power back that runs with power.
Honorable Mention: Christine Michael - HB, Brian Schwenke- OC, Tony Jefferson, S
Round 5: Matt Scott, QB
A. Duke Williams, S - The more I read about Duke Williams, the more I like him. Definitely a SS prospect. Big hitter, good against the run, and would need some time to get better in coverage. The Cardinals can really wait on drafting a safety since there is good value from Rounds 1 to 5 in my opinion. Williams is one of the final players that could play in the NFL, IMO.
B. Eric Wolf, S - Kind of like this year's Justin Bethel without the special teams ability. Can play FS, or CB and has decent coverage skills. Would need to put on a little weight to play in the NFL, and would need a little time to see if he can handle NFL speed. Maybe be the final guy at safety that would be worth using a draft pick on.
C. A.J. Klein, ILB - I cannot figure out the way the Cardinals are looking at their defense. This weird tweener mold at outside linebacker/defensive end/inside linebacker. Alexander, Shaughnessey, and Rucker. In my opinion, it cannot hurt to bring in some depth behind Jasper Brinkley, and I think A.J. Klein would fit in nicely for depth at the ILB position since they plan to use Alexander in different spots, there needs to be someone to back up Brinkley, IMO.
Honorable Mention: Spencer Ware - HB, Montori Hughes - NT
Round 6: Michael Williams, TE & Vance Williams, ILB
A. Stansly Maponga, OLB - Seems to me this is the kind of player the Cardinals like. He can play DE or OLB. Good size and power, but I don't think there is much in the area of pass rushing. Provides depth at OLB, DE.
B. Travis Howard, CB - Good value pick. You bring this kid into camp and see if he can take over the 5th CB spot. Good size, decent speed, and used to playing against better competition. When is picking a CB a bad thing ?
C. Ray Ray Armstrong, S - Boom or bust pick all the way. He is a strong safety type. Good tackler. But can he do it in the NFL ? That is the risk. Guy could be depth/special teams for life, or starting on the field by the end of his rookie year.
D. Derrick Washington, RB - The Cardinals took a look at this kid, and he could be had as a UDFA. But, if the Cardinals want him, then they can draft him. He is a Stephens-Howlings type back, and would fill that role for the Cardinals.
E. Copper Talyor, S - Physically big. Some scouts think Taylor is going to be turned into a linebacker in the pros. He could be a strong safety in the mold of a poor man's Adrian Wilson, or Chandler for the Seahawks. A risk pick if I ever saw one, but if it works out, he fits a role that is open for the Caridnals.
F. D.J. Sweaninger, S - A solid prospect for the safety position. That's about it.
Honorable Mention: Montel Harris - RB, Cameron Marshall - RB, Dan Giordano - OLB
Not a baseball fan, not a basketball fan, so this morning ? Bored.
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Thus I present a mock with a twist. Here is my mock. THE mock. The mock I stand by as the way I want things to go.
1 - Chance Warmack, OG
2 - Alex Okafor, OLB
3 - Barrett Jones, OG/OC/OT
4 - Shaun Williams, S
5 - Matt Scott, QB
6 - Michael Williams, TE
6 - Vince Williams, ILB
OK. I agree Whoop-T-Doo. The twist will be I will list my top 3 alternate picks at each spot. The alternate picks will be without outside influence. Meaning, I don't care who we have on the roster, what the Cardinals are saying, who I picked in the round before. Just at that spot what player I would like to see the Cardinals get.
Round 1: Chance Warmack, OG
A. Luke Joeckel, OT - Take one of, if not the best OT in the draft ? Sure.
B. Eric Fischer, OT - See option A. But, with less proof on tape.
C. Dion Jordan - Pass rushing is a skill, but playing the position is just as important, IMO. Not only does Jordan have some pass rushing ability, he can play the OLB'er position and all facets of it. Sam Acho is like a Dion Jordan but with much less ability to rush the passer.
Anyone of these four players makes the Cardinals team better immediately, IMO.
Honorable Mention: Dee Milliner - CB, Geno Smith - QB
Round 2: Alex Okafor, OLB
A. Menelik Watson, OT - Problem is, that in the lower rounds I have to assume the player is going to be there. Watson can easily be chosen in the 1st round. His game tape, and technique keep him from being mentioned with the top tackles. He is an amazing athlete for his size. Just watch his feet. They are quick, and coordinated. Listed as an OT, he can play anywhere on the line with his ability.
B. Tyler Wilson, QB - Gets much love from this board and for good reason. I think there are a lot of "forced QB prospects". Meaning they are being hyped up because of the desperate need for QB's in the league. Wilson is not one of those QB's. Wilson is one of the few I see doing well in the NFL. Not sold on Barkley, or any other QB's rated around this spot.
C. Jonathan Cyprien, S - Forgive me, because this is a bit of a hype pick. Has good athletic skills, and is a strong safety. Good against the run, decent cover skills, and a big hitter. Would fit right into what the Cardinals are looking for.
Honorable Mention: Datone Jones - DE, Margus Hunt - DE, Kevin Minter - ILB
Round 3: Barrett Jones, OG/OC/OT
A. Landry Jones, QB - Best value pick in the draft. If the stars align and Jones is there in the 3rd, then I think he is the pick. I just don't think he will be there, and I think he is not worth a 2nd round pick *(1st and 2nd round picks being CRUCIAL to a teams development, with a HUGE drop off at the 3rd round) Is the prototypical type of QB that Bruce Arians describes. May drop for reasons unknown, and would fit right in between "The Answer" and Brian Hoyer.
B. T.J. MacDonald, S - A player in the same mold of a Jonathan Cyprien. Is a strong safety prospect. Good against the run, physically big and a big hitter. Dare I say he TRIES to fill the role left by A-Dub.
C. Terron Armstead, OG/OT - Not so much for the 40 times as much as the athletic ability. A very, very raw player. He is not going to start year 1, and would be a push to start year 2, but has the skills for OT, or OG. If he is coachable, and can learn technique he is the type of player that doesn't dictate where he is going to play. He is the kind of player you develop and then he replaces the weakest link in a year or two. A bit of a risk, but worth it in the 3rd round.
Honorable Mention: Brandon Jenkins - OLB, Phillip Thomas - S
Round 4: Shaun Williams, S
A. Travis Kelce, TE - You don't pick for need right ? Well, Shaun Williams is my 4th pick because we need a safety and he is good value at that spot. Yet, I really, really like Travis Kelce for the Cardinals at tight end. We have Rob Housler for our "pass catching" TE, we have a healthy Jeff King for our blocking TE, but we need that tweener, good blocker/decent pass catcher. Kelce fits the mold perfectly. He would be a 4th round pick that may be starting game 1.
B. David Quessenberry, OG/OC - Another good athlete (see a trend here ?) that can play OG, or OC. He reminds me of a Nate Potter type player. Has the skills, but not the power an bulk. Adam Snyder, and Lyle Sendlein are going to have to fight for their jobs, and big money contracts, if we bring in at player like Quessenberry. At worst he is depth for both OG, and OC.
C. La'Veon Bell, RB - Don't understand the love for Christine Michael. Bell may be there in the 4th, and IMO, is the superior running back. He would fit better with what the Caridnals have in house. Big back, with good speed and quickness. A power back that runs with power.
Honorable Mention: Christine Michael - HB, Brian Schwenke- OC, Tony Jefferson, S
Round 5: Matt Scott, QB
A. Duke Williams, S - The more I read about Duke Williams, the more I like him. Definitely a SS prospect. Big hitter, good against the run, and would need some time to get better in coverage. The Cardinals can really wait on drafting a safety since there is good value from Rounds 1 to 5 in my opinion. Williams is one of the final players that could play in the NFL, IMO.
B. Eric Wolf, S - Kind of like this year's Justin Bethel without the special teams ability. Can play FS, or CB and has decent coverage skills. Would need to put on a little weight to play in the NFL, and would need a little time to see if he can handle NFL speed. Maybe be the final guy at safety that would be worth using a draft pick on.
C. A.J. Klein, ILB - I cannot figure out the way the Cardinals are looking at their defense. This weird tweener mold at outside linebacker/defensive end/inside linebacker. Alexander, Shaughnessey, and Rucker. In my opinion, it cannot hurt to bring in some depth behind Jasper Brinkley, and I think A.J. Klein would fit in nicely for depth at the ILB position since they plan to use Alexander in different spots, there needs to be someone to back up Brinkley, IMO.
Honorable Mention: Spencer Ware - HB, Montori Hughes - NT
Round 6: Michael Williams, TE & Vance Williams, ILB
A. Stansly Maponga, OLB - Seems to me this is the kind of player the Cardinals like. He can play DE or OLB. Good size and power, but I don't think there is much in the area of pass rushing. Provides depth at OLB, DE.
B. Travis Howard, CB - Good value pick. You bring this kid into camp and see if he can take over the 5th CB spot. Good size, decent speed, and used to playing against better competition. When is picking a CB a bad thing ?
C. Ray Ray Armstrong, S - Boom or bust pick all the way. He is a strong safety type. Good tackler. But can he do it in the NFL ? That is the risk. Guy could be depth/special teams for life, or starting on the field by the end of his rookie year.
D. Derrick Washington, RB - The Cardinals took a look at this kid, and he could be had as a UDFA. But, if the Cardinals want him, then they can draft him. He is a Stephens-Howlings type back, and would fill that role for the Cardinals.
E. Copper Talyor, S - Physically big. Some scouts think Taylor is going to be turned into a linebacker in the pros. He could be a strong safety in the mold of a poor man's Adrian Wilson, or Chandler for the Seahawks. A risk pick if I ever saw one, but if it works out, he fits a role that is open for the Caridnals.
F. D.J. Sweaninger, S - A solid prospect for the safety position. That's about it.
Honorable Mention: Montel Harris - RB, Cameron Marshall - RB, Dan Giordano - OLB