Robert Horry is a despicable person. Period.

[Muggum]

Lest anyone think Robert Horry is a good human being...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2877137

From that, I think it's fair to say we're talking about a world class douche.

But should you need more:

Back when Horry played for the Lakers, there was a network TV segment about Horry, his wife, and kids, and what a wonderful, sweet family man he is. Later THAT VERY SAME WEEK, Horry made a sexual proposition to my friend's friend here in LA. The woman in question was smoking hot, single, and not Horry's wife. Horry made it very clear what he wanted to do with her.

So... to take a page from Curt Schilling... Horry cheats on the court AND his wife.

Standing O, Spurs fans! Let's teach our kids to be like Robert Horry!

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[mr_sunshine]

Yeah... I read that earlier. He's such a moron.

 

[Forrestham]

Dotn thinnk he will be participating in any Suns alumni activiites

 

[D-Dogg]

Back when Horry played for the Lakers, there was a network TV segment about Horry, his wife, and kids, and what a wonderful, sweet family man he is. Later THAT VERY SAME WEEK, Horry made a sexual proposition to my friend's friend here in LA. The woman in question was smoking hot, single, and not Horry's wife. Horry made it very clear what he wanted to do with her.

Whatever, like I've posted before, I've been witness to Nash homewrecking the NAU center and his fiancee during training camp in Flagstaff back when he was first with Phoenix. KJ likes to shower with teens, or however that story went. Your old coach liked to sleep with the wives of sponsors.

Say what you will about Horry, but don't act like you are shocked that he wanted some strange. The NBA is full of despicable people, and you only hear a tenth of a percent of the stuff that goes on.

To top it off, that foul on Nash wasn't even that hard...it WAS a hard, dirty foul, but Raja's on Kobe was much worse. It just didn't end up with multiple suspensions on a crappy rule. But Horry's foul isn't even in the top twenty of hard fouls in the league, nor in the 2000's most likely.

Keep your anger at Stern and his rule...and guess what, he's probably a despicable person too. He probably has *gasp and swoon* a mistress!

 

[dodie53]

it was not how hard the foul was..

horry didn't have to do it..
he could have just grabbed nash..
why do a shoulder block?

 

[green machine]

it was not how hard the foul was..

horry didn't have to do it..
he could have just grabbed nash..
why do a shoulder block?

Exactly.

A hard foul is fine when you are trying to make sure someone doesn't get an "and 1" on the attempt. You don't need a hard foul when you are just trying to intentionally send the other team to the line at the end of the game.

 

[Gaddabout]

Your old coach liked to sleep with the wives of sponsors.

I'm not saying it's true, but I always thought it was strange every time the Suns scored Frank would celebrate with a "giggity, giggity, giggity."

 

[sly fly]

Whatever, like I've posted before, I've been witness to Nash homewrecking the NAU center and his fiancee during training camp in Flagstaff back when he was first with Phoenix. KJ likes to shower with teens, or however that story went. Your old coach liked to sleep with the wives of sponsors.

Say what you will about Horry, but don't act like you are shocked that he wanted some strange. The NBA is full of despicable people, and you only hear a tenth of a percent of the stuff that goes on.

To top it off, that foul on Nash wasn't even that hard...it WAS a hard, dirty foul, but Raja's on Kobe was much worse. It just didn't end up with multiple suspensions on a crappy rule. But Horry's foul isn't even in the top twenty of hard fouls in the league, nor in the 2000's most likely.

Keep your anger at Stern and his rule...and guess what, he's probably a despicable person too. He probably has *gasp and swoon* a mistress!

Homewrecking? You keep bringing this up. Let me enlighten you on something...

- Nash probably did your NAU boy a favor. It's a good thing her sleaziness came out before she actually married the guy.

Your NAU player should send Nash roses.

 

[sly fly]

Whatever, like I've posted before, I've been witness to Nash homewrecking the NAU center and his fiancee during training camp in Flagstaff back when he was first with Phoenix. KJ likes to shower with teens, or however that story went. Your old coach liked to sleep with the wives of sponsors.

Say what you will about Horry, but don't act like you are shocked that he wanted some strange. The NBA is full of despicable people, and you only hear a tenth of a percent of the stuff that goes on.

To top it off, that foul on Nash wasn't even that hard...it WAS a hard, dirty foul, but Raja's on Kobe was much worse. It just didn't end up with multiple suspensions on a crappy rule. But Horry's foul isn't even in the top twenty of hard fouls in the league, nor in the 2000's most likely.

Keep your anger at Stern and his rule...and guess what, he's probably a despicable person too. He probably has *gasp and swoon* a mistress!

Also, don't downplay Horry's foul. That foul may not make your "Top 20" hardest fouls... but the ramifications of that foul rank in the Top 1. I challenge you to come up with any other foul in the history of the NBA that altered the outcome of a series as much as this one. The timing and ultimate outcome (suspensions, lost series) sicken me to no end.

BTW, Raja did the time. Penalty was served. No Laker was suspended.

 

[D-Dogg]

it was not how hard the foul was..

horry didn't have to do it..
he could have just grabbed nash..
why do a shoulder block?

Yeah, and why did Raja have to clothesline Kobe? He could have just fouled him or elbowed him. Why throw him down by the neck and have his other arm come to the face for insurance?

Come on...mountains and molehills. It was a cheap, dirty foul. Certainly nothing new. Definitely nothing to start federal cases over.

 

[mr_sunshine]

Yeah, and why did Raja have to clothesline Kobe.

Come on...mountains and molehills. It was a cheap, dirty foul. Certainly nothing new. Definitely nothing to start federal cases over.

Kobe took some shots at Raja throughout the series. He didn't HAVE TO do that, but he chose to in retaliation. He was suspended. That was all. It was not in junk time. It did not alter the outcome of the series. It was not unprovoked.

 

[D-Dogg]

Homewrecking? You keep bringing this up. Let me enlighten you on something...

- Nash probably did your NAU boy a favor. It's a good thing her sleaziness came out before she actually married the guy.

Your NAU player should send Nash roses.

I'm not going to say this is a bad thing that it was found out she was a tramp, but at the same time I wouldn't go around putting Nashy on a pedastal. So often the "character" issue comes up and someone gets all high and mighty about it. I have no worries about the people I cheer for because I don't CARE about their lives. It's why I can actually respect Nash's game though I think he's a crappy person...he's a great player and I watch him to see him pass the ball and hit big threes, not to see how he balances groupies on the tip of his nose or whatever else makes him happy.

However, some people love to bring personal lives into the idea of a sports hero...as if we like players because they are good people instead of phenomenal athletes. Again, we know practically NOTHING about athletes' lives off the court, and we are probably better off that way.

 

[dodie53]

kobe started it, raja just ended it..

horry just lost his mind..

and to do it near the suns bench and to a 2 time mvp?
that's cheap..

 

[D-Dogg]

Kobe took some shots at Raja throughout the series. He didn't HAVE TO do that, but he chose to in retaliation. He was suspended. That was all. It was not in junk time. It did not alter the outcome of the series. It was not unprovoked.

It doesn't matter. It was a brutal, emotional, unnecessary foul. Horry's foul ALSO did not alter the course of the series...Amare and Diaw coming off the bench did. Sure, the rule is crap but everyone in the league knows the rule. ONLY Amare and Diaw left the bench...they weren't the only guys on the bench. Everyone else stayed. The stupid rule was broken.

Horry's foul, ultimately, only resulted in his suspension. The actions of Diaw and Amare resulted in theirs...as dumb as the rule is, Horry didn't make them come on to the floor. Their emotions did. They know the rules and they know that Stern is a stickler on that one in particular.

 

[D-Dogg]

kobe started it, raja just ended it..

horry just lost his mind..

and to do it near the suns bench and to a 2 time mvp?
that's cheap..

Really? Raja just lost HIS mind. He lost control of his emotions more than Horry ever could. To do it to a 3 time NBA champion? And one of the top players in the league? That's cheap.

And Kobe didn't start is as much as Raja was draped on Kobe like a jacket during that series. You are all upset at Bowen's hanging on Nash...well Raja was laying on top of Kobe as well. In fact, one of the elbows, possibly a phantom elbow, that precipitated the clothesline, came when Raja was literally on Kobe's back, arms all over him, back all over him and leaning on him. Very Bowen-esqe. At least, however, Raja doesn't step under jumpshooters trying to alter their landing and hurt them, a la Bowen. Other than that, they play very similar games.

It is funny how you can condemn Horry and in almost the same breath excuse Raja. Both of them took big, fat cheap shots. And if, because of that, Horry is "despicable" and "dirty" then so is Raja.

 

[D-Dogg]

Also, don't downplay Horry's foul. That foul may not make your "Top 20" hardest fouls... but the ramifications of that foul rank in the Top 1. I challenge you to come up with any other foul in the history of the NBA that altered the outcome of a series as much as this one. The timing and ultimate outcome (suspensions, lost series) sicken me to no end.

BTW, Raja did the time. Penalty was served. No Laker was suspended.

I answered this question, probably when you were still posting:

Horry's foul ALSO did not alter the course of the series...Amare and Diaw coming off the bench did. Sure, the rule is crap but everyone in the league knows the rule. ONLY Amare and Diaw left the bench...they weren't the only guys on the bench. Everyone else stayed. The stupid rule was broken.

Horry's foul, ultimately, only resulted in his suspension. The actions of Diaw and Amare resulted in theirs...as dumb as the rule is, Horry didn't make them come on to the floor. Their emotions did. They know the rules and they know that Stern is a stickler on that one in particular.

 

[newfan101]

Horry's foul ALSO did not alter the course of the series...Amare and Diaw coming off the bench did.

This could not be more wrong, although you’re not alone apparently in this misguided analysis. It was Horry's altercation that HE started that caused Amare and Diaw coming off the bench to suddenly become an offense. As Duncan and Bowen proved, coming off the bench is NOT an offense ... unless a fight is going on. Don’t EVER forget this: Horry's foul led to the REACTION of Amare and Diaw leaving the bench. If Horry had reached over to apologize to Nash for the foul, and diffused the situation, it wouldn't have been an altercation, and Amare and Diaw wouldn't have been suspended. It's so absurd it's almost twilight zone: the more unsportsmanlike he acted, the more he shifted the blame and burden of proof away from him and on to Amare and Diaw ... who were doing NOTHING unsportsmanlike. It is the most unbelievable miscarriage of justice I've ever seen in sports.

Horry's not despicable for committing the foul. He's despicable for his apathetic response and refusal to see the net result of his punk play with even a hint of remorse. The Spurs fans are despicable for not seeing this either, and even more despicable for cheering him on. Most despicable are Stern and Jackson for not seeing the forest through the trees, rewarding unsportsmanlike play, and hard lining the wrong players for a natural, human, completely non-violent response to a teammate being thrown to the floor.

I couldn't be more through watching this league.

 

[George Gervin]

Let it go. You guys look pathetic.

 

[dodie53]

Let it go. You guys look pathetic.

likewise..

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[Southpaw]

Horry has so little effect on that game and series until he pulls that crap. I honestly believe that he didn't have any strategy in that foul. He was just going to get blown past by Nash and his old man legs wouldn't let him play defense. He just did what any cheap shot over the hill player who doesn't give a rat's behind about injuring someone else might do. The ramifications of his foul with the subsequent suspensions were in spite of his stupidity. He is the luckiest man in the NBA for a guy who doesn't even belong in the game anymore. Just change his name to Cheap Shot Bob. If the league actually allowed enforcers back into the game, the cheap shots wouldn't happen. Enforcers didn't take cheap shots, they kept the game honest. Not like now where every skinny little malcontent can play tough guy and hide behind the rules. Thanks for nothing David Stern.

 

[D-Dogg]

If the league actually allowed enforcers back into the game, the cheap shots wouldn't happen. Enforcers didn't take cheap shots, they kept the game honest. Not like now where every skinny little malcontent can play tough guy and hide behind the rules. Thanks for nothing David Stern.

I agree 100%. Same thing in football. You wouldn't need all these rules of celebration etc, if a SS could just take a guys head off from time to time.

 

[Southpaw]

I agree 100%. Same thing in football. You wouldn't need all these rules of celebration etc, if a SS could just take a guys head off from time to time.

Yes sir. Works for me.


Some of the best enforcers in the game were PFs.

 

[Soul_Patch]

Horry fould him hard, probably not necessary, but regardless he needed to foul and did so in a frustrated manner. Raja Bell started the "altercation" by running at horry and getting in his face (probably justified, if i was in the game id be mad too). Raja started the heat and prompted stoudamire and daiw to react. Hence their suspension.Stop playing the blame game folks. Had Horry's foul been center court and he would have flopped to immulate a charge, there would have been no conversation at all about the play. it was a hard foul, emphasized by a world class flop...end of story.good luck next year.

 

[Southpaw]

Horry fould him hard, probably not necessary, but regardless he needed to foul and did so in a frustrated manner. Raja Bell started the "altercation" by running at horry and getting in his face (probably justified, if i was in the game id be mad too). Raja started the heat and prompted stoudamire and daiw to react. Hence their suspension.Stop playing the blame game folks. Had Horry's foul been center court and he would have flopped to immulate a charge, there would have been no conversation at all about the play. it was a hard foul, emphasized by a world class flop...end of story.good luck next year.

Spurs fans are like a breath of fresh air. Just a voice of reason.

What does immulate mean?

Immolate????? definition

im·mo·late (m-lt)
tr.v. im·mo·lat·ed, im·mo·lat·ing, im·mo·lates
1. To kill as a sacrifice.
2. To kill (oneself) by fire.
3. To destroy.

That would have been cool. Horry immolated at mid court. That and a 2 game suspension. Real cool.

 

[crazybutters11]

it horry falls back and tries to draw a charge nothing happens. good acting from Nash, must have been talking to Ginobili between games or just learned from Bell who had the best flop of the year in this series.