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That might be your opinion but I doubt enough people with a vote will agree with you. His win/loss record isn't the benchmark for induction and his lack of success in the post season will hurt him. His statistics overall are good enough to garner consideration.

I think he has a shot to get in, but it will take him 10-15 years to do so.
 

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How so?





How many playoff games did he win ?

Guy choked like Neil Rackers any time the pressure was on.

Continually played behind good to great offensive lines, has had Terrell Owens, Dez Bryant, and Jason Witten to throw to.

Living on the West Coast, I have seen more than enough of Tony Romo, he is marginal at best. Anything else is just the east coast bias, and Cowboy hype driving him higher. Just my two cents.

You must think very poorly of Palmer then.
 

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I dunno, that is a lot of excuses for Romo, when he has had ample opportunities to make the playoffs and win in the playoffs with that Cowboys team throughout the years.

A lot of those opportunities were robbed from him due to numerous injuries. But playing for the Cowboys is a challenge in it of itself, considering the rabid fanbase, unrelenting haters, average head coach, and an owner who has his hands too deep into the cookie jar. The intense scrutiny of Romo even got to me, until I started researching stats and watching film. Dude has more comeback victories than any QB in NFL history and the team has struggled mightily when he's injured (10-23 prior to 2016 compared to 78-49 with him).

I would not put Romo up with the elites like Manning, Brady, etc., but he was a great quarterback who could win ball games.
 

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The sports world is going crazy today. Hall of Fame talk? Best Cowboys QB ever talk? I mean, seriously? No. Just...chuckle chuckle...no.

He came out of nowhere to become a solid QB. He put together a heck of a career while following a non-traditional path to success. If he wasn't hurt, or if he had a better cast some seasons, or if, if, if...well, those ifs never were. He's not a HOFer, he's not the best QB in Cowboy's history, or any of that nonsense.
 

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Yeah, Sims wasn't the best ever, but I think he and Nantz had developed a nice chemistry. I'm surprised CBS didn't pair Romo with another announcer and let him work hi way up.
 

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That might be your opinion but I doubt enough people with a vote will agree with you. His win/loss record isn't the benchmark for induction and his lack of success in the post season will hurt him. His statistics overall are good enough to garner consideration.
So if post season success is the measuring stick, does that mean Trent Dilfer gets in?
 

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You must think very poorly of Palmer then.


I have no idea what you are talking about.

Overrated = poor ? Maybe in your book, but I didn't type or say those words, nor do I agree with that correlation.

I think Tony Romo is over-hyped. I think Romo is about as good as a Carson Palmer, or Drew Bledsoe type QB.
 

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. Dude has more comeback victories than any QB in NFL history and the team has struggled mightily when he's injured (10-23 prior to 2016 compared to 78-49 with him).

I will say the same thing that I said about Jake Plummer and comebacks.......why did they have to "comeback" in the first place ?

As for the comparisons to Aikman and Staubach ? Different era's at different times.

Its the same reason I think Andre Reed has no business in the Hall of Fame. Different era, different time.

Relative to when he played ? Romo has been a good QB, that is it.
 

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You mean a 9-4 postseason record, right?

I was using Kurt as an example of a player whos post season success was a contributing factor in his admission into the hall.
Kurt most likely doesn't get in if his post season record mirrored Romo's.
 

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I was using Kurt as an example of a player whos post season success was a contributing factor in his admission into the hall.
Kurt most likely doesn't get in if his post season record mirrored Romo's.

Ah, gotcha. Lost in translation because of plain text online :)
 
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....Only 1 with the Cards?

Playoff games isn't the only metric here when determining a player stuck on crappy teams.

1 with the Cards and at least 2 with the Rams. When talking about a player's career I assume stats for his entire career.

BTW: He was dominant in all his postseason starts. He got 2 INT's vs Troy Aikman in the 1998 Cardinals playoff game which we won 20-7. He got a few INT's while helping the Rams reach another Super Bowl, including one to clinch the NFC Championship game.

Aeneas dominated at his position and had the respect of the entire league.
 

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I will say the same thing that I said about Jake Plummer and comebacks.......why did they have to "comeback" in the first place ?

As for the comparisons to Aikman and Staubach ? Different era's at different times.

Its the same reason I think Andre Reed has no business in the Hall of Fame. Different era, different time.

Relative to when he played ? Romo has been a good QB, that is it.

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He's up there with future HoFers, and like Peyton Manning, Romo was making up for some really substandard rosters throughout his career. This is not saying that Romo is in the same class as Peyton, but rather, proving that it's silly to call Romo "overrated"
 

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You think Warner gets in with a 2-4 post season record?
Changing the goalposts again I see. Typical of someone losing an argument. Oh, and if Super Bowls and playoff records were the only caveat, why hasn't Jim Plunkett gotten in? He's 8-2 in playoff games with 2 Super Bowls?
 

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He's up there with future HoFers, and like Peyton Manning, Romo was making up for some really substandard rosters throughout his career. This is not saying that Romo is in the same class as Peyton, but rather, proving that it's silly to call Romo "overrated"

I'm a huge Cowboys-hater, like most old school Cardinals' fans, but in looking into some of Tony's stats I feel thankful that he missed so much time. His absences due to injury kept the Cowboys from being a better team. When he did start he only had one season where he lost more games than he won (1-5 in 2010). In all of his other seasons as the starter he had a winning record or at worst went 8-8. Not too shabby.
 

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Changing the goalposts again I see. Typical of someone losing an argument. Oh, and if Super Bowls and playoff records were the only caveat, why hasn't Jim Plunkett gotten in? He's 8-2 in playoff games with 2 Super Bowls?

I didn't know we were arguing. Where exactly did I say it was the only caveat for induction into the Hall?
 

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Romo in the HOF? I'll be surprised. He was a very good QB, has some very good stats a, solid regular season W-L record, but he didn't come close to setting any kind of league records and literally did pretty much nothing in the playoffs.

If there was a Hall Of Very Good, he'd be in there, but not the HOF, IMO.
 
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