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QB (3): WARNER, McCown, Navarre

RB (6): ARRINGTON, Shipp, Jackson, Redmond, Ayanbadejo, Hodgins

WR (5): BOLDIN, JOHNSON, FITZGERALD, Lee, Hamilton

TE (3): EDWARDS, Bergen, Bronson

OL (9): DAVIS, WELLS, STEPANOVICH, BRIDGES, ROSS, Allen, Brown, Leckey, Newton

ST (3): PLAYER, RACKERS, HODEL

DL (9): OKEAFOR, DOCKETT, DAVIS, BERRY, Pace, Zellner, Kolodziej, King, Smith

LB (6): HUFF, HAYES, DANSBY, Blackstock, Mitchell, Darling

DB (9): ROLLE, WILSON, GRIFFITH, MACKLIN, Green, Tate, Harris, Walls, Francisco

PS (7): DE King, T., WR McCoy, WR Sheldon, TE Stokes, DT Bulman, WR Holiday, G Cantu.

These predictions will be adjusted every week after we see the tape of the next pre-season game. Post your predictions...there are some tough decisions...as you will see. I like Aaron Francisco's versatility and if he's a factor on special teams...he may well make the roster.

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OK...after Game 1...here are some slight changes...

QB: Same (WARNER, McCown, Navarre)

RB: Keepers (Arrington, Shipp, Redmond, Ayanbadejo). Replace Jackson with Anderson and Hodgins with Morrow. Damien Anderson looked very strong Sat. night. He has good vision and he's been a solid ontributor on special teams. Morrow's special teams prowess gives him the edge as the #2 FB. Hodgins is good enough to garner some interest in the trade market. The Cardinals won't keep three FBs.

WR: Keepers (Boldin, Johnson, Fitzgerald, Lee). Replace Hamilton with Newhouse. Reggie's a better special teams player and he's productive when he gets on the field. Hamilton has lots of talent, but he's like Bryan Gilmore, either hurt or quiet when he's on the field.

TE: Keepers (Edwards, Bergen). Replace Bronson with Golliday...although this #3 TE spot is up for grabs...Blizzard and Stokes are still strongly in the mix as well. It's also not a sure thing that DG will choose to keep 3 TEs. He may decide to keep 2...and sign Bronson and Stokes to the PS.

OL: Keepers (Davis, Wells, Stepanovich, Bridges, Ross, Allen, Leckey, Brown). replace Newton with Haayer. Haayer's versatility gives him the nod this week. He can play all three line positions and with Step out for now, keeping Haayer makes the most sense.

ST: Same (Player, Rackers, Hodel).

DL: Same (Okeafor, Dockett, Davis, Berry, Pace, King, Kolodziej, Zellner, Smith).

LB: Same (Dansby, Hayes, Huff, Blackstock, Darling, Mitchell).

DB: Same (Macklin, Wilson, Griffith, Rolle, Tate, Green, Walls, Harris, Francisco). Walls and Harris played very well on special teams and Francisco showed good range and open field tackling ability.

Recap of Changes: New Addition in CAPS...old in parens

RB: ANDERSON (Jackson)

FB: MORROW (Hodgins)

WR: NEWHOUSE (Hamilton)

OL: HAAYER (Newton)

Updated Practice Squad:

TE Bronson, TE Stokes, WR McCoy, WR Sheldon, WR Holliday, K Fordyce, DT Bulman, DB Reid.

What's YOUR updated roster prediction? I love hearing your thoughts.
 

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Shazor over Fordyce on the PS. Green isn't about to carry five TE's......not with the depth situation at DT being so weak. Sheldon becomes redundant as his only value is as a P/KR and Redmond has a lock on this now.

Otherwise, it's becoming clearer now.
 
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I think Navarre will make his way up to second string. I can't wait for the moment it happens, so the GoldenBoy Fan Club could quite down. Also I would subtract Fransico to the Practice squad and add Morrow. His position is FB but he was brought in for Special Teams only.
 

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Mitch said:
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Updated Practice Squad:

TE Bronson, TE Stokes, WR McCoy, WR Sheldon, WR Holliday, K Fordyce, DT Bulman, DB Reid.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Fordyce spent all of last season without a job, and still came to camp. Why on earth would the Cards pay him $100,000 to do nothing on the practice squad? Are Rackers and Player so busy at practices that they need another guy around?

Also, I don't think there's any way that Olahete doesn't make the team.
 

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Shazor over Fordyce on the PS. Green isn't about to carry four TE's......not with the depth situation at DT being so weak. Sheldon becomes redundant as his only value is as a P/KR and Redmond has a lock on this now.

Otherwise, it's becoming clearer now.
If Shazor goes to the PS then he will be claimed by another team. I think Shazor goes to IR.
 

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If Shazor goes to the PS then he will be claimed by another team. I think Shazor goes to IR.

Why? He's done nothing in camp or during the preseason, no one wanted him with even a 7th round pick, and he came here when he had zero chance to get any PT.

If we lose him, so what? I agree with you that if we need to stash him we'll put him on IR, and there's no way he gets carried into the regular season, but I doubt that he'd get snagged by anyone.
 

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Mitch said:
RB: Keepers (Arrington, Shipp, Redmond, Ayanbadejo). Replace Jackson with Anderson and Hodgins with Morrow. Damien Anderson looked very strong Sat. night. He has good vision and he's been a solid ontributor on special teams. Morrow's special teams prowess gives him the edge as the #2 FB. Hodgins is good enough to garner some interest in the trade market. The Cardinals won't keep three FBs.
Disagree here, Green cut Damien in favor of Josh Scobey once before so I can easily see him doing such again. And James Hodgins has about as much trade value as you or I do.
 

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Sheldon becomes redundant as his only value is as a P/KR and Redmond has a lock on this now.

Agree. For now, I thínk JR earned a roster spot with his performance against the Cowboys. With a RB as our return guy I think we'll carry 4 RBs and 5 WRs meaning Sheldon is gone from the 53-man roster.
 

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Disagree here, Green cut Damien in favor of Josh Scobey once before so I can easily see him doing such again. And James Hodgins has about as much trade value as you or I do.

I think he did that cause he thought scobey could be a return guy. Boy, was he wrong. I would keep Damien over Scobey.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Disagree here, Green cut Damien in favor of Josh Scobey once before so I can easily see him doing such again. And James Hodgins has about as much trade value as you or I do.

Wasn't that because Anderson got injured in a car crash? And because Scobey was a better returner.
 

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God if we have Rolle returning punts I'll be stunned. He's going to be too heavily counted on for defense to risk on punts.

I'm really hoping Sheldon turns out to be the PR. I don't care if he is too small to play WR all we need him to do is return some kicks.


I agree, that would be insane.

First of all Rolle isn't Deion, he's not that fast and to make matters worse he's not afraid of contact.

That means he's going to get killed returning punts.
 

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I think Navarre will make his way up to second string. I can't wait for the moment it happens, so the GoldenBoy Fan Club could quite down. Also I would subtract Fransico to the Practice squad and add Morrow. His position is FB but he was brought in for Special Teams only.

Pay attention.

GREEN has said CLEARLY that McCown is the NUMBER TWO (2)...

Quite down ? Quiet down, I would guess...
 

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Mitch said:
QB (3): WARNER, McCown, Navarre

RB (6): ARRINGTON, Shipp, Jackson, Redmond, Ayanbadejo, Hodgins

WR (5): BOLDIN, JOHNSON, FITZGERALD, Lee, Hamilton

TE (3): EDWARDS, Bergen, Bronson

OL (9): DAVIS, WELLS, STEPANOVICH, BRIDGES, ROSS, Allen, Brown, Leckey, Newton

ST (3): PLAYER, RACKERS, HODEL

DL (9): OKEAFOR, DOCKETT, DAVIS, BERRY, Pace, Zellner, Kolodziej, King, Smith

LB (6): HUFF, HAYES, DANSBY, Blackstock, Mitchell, Darling

DB (9): ROLLE, WILSON, GRIFFITH, MACKLIN, Green, Tate, Harris, Walls, Francisco

PS (7): DE King, T., WR McCoy, WR Sheldon, TE Stokes, DT Bulman, WR Holiday, G Cantu.

These predictions will be adjusted every week after we see the tape of the next pre-season game. Post your predictions...there are some tough decisions...as you will see. I like Aaron Francisco's versatility and if he's a factor on special teams...he may well make the roster.

KING on DL.... KING on PS... didn't know we had two...
 

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BACH said:
Wasn't that because Anderson got injured in a car crash? And because Scobey was a better returner.
It's that versatility on special teams why Scobey is still ahead of a healthy Anderson on the depth chart. Other than his average ability to return kicks, I'm pretty sure Scobey also comes off the edge in punt return situations and is the faster of the two backs. Personally, I wouldn't lose much sleep if both guys got cut considering Redmond appears like he has a job and DG only kept 3 RBs last season. Damien Anderson leads the NFL in preseason rushing seemigly every year so I'm not going to put much stock in this performance.
 

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Pay attention.

GREEN has said CLEARLY that McCown is the NUMBER TWO (2)...

Quite down ? Quiet down, I would guess...

Green has also said CLEARLY that [size=-1]I make a decision, and when I make a decision I stay with it until I change my mind.

Josh has done nothing to keep his job.
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Green has also said CLEARLY that [size=-1]I make a decision, and when I make a decision I stay with it until I change my mind.

Josh has done nothing to keep his job.
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Even if I accept your premise (and I don't) it's still up to Navarre to take the job away from McCown.

Tell me what NAVARRE... (who is slightly more mobile than the statue to the unknown soldier in my city square).. has done to become no. 2 ?
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
And James Hodgins has about as much trade value as you or I do.

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It's that versatility on special teams why Scobey is still ahead of a healthy Anderson on the depth chart. Other than his average ability to return kicks, I'm pretty sure Scobey also comes off the edge in punt return situations and is the faster of the two backs. Personally, I wouldn't lose much sleep if both guys got cut considering Redmond appears like he has a job and DG only kept 3 RBs last season. Damien Anderson leads the NFL in preseason rushing seemigly every year so I'm not going to put much stock in this performance.

Were you at the game on Saturday? When I was looking at the punt unit, Anderson was lined up as a gunner on every down where I was paying attention. Perhaps the worm has turned against Scobey and in favor of Morrow? I remember Tate and Anderson as the gunners in the punt game...
 

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Even if I accept your premise (and I don't) it's still up to Navarre to take the job away from McCown.

Tell me what NAVARRE... (who is slightly more mobile than the statue to the unknown soldier in my city square).. has done to become no. 2 ?

Tell me what Josh has done with those great legs of his. Except find the most opponents bunched up in one place and try try to run them over head first. Another statue Manning has had longer runs then Josh. Even Warner has busted longer runs then Josh.

For Joshs great legs he hasn't done anything to impress me with them.

As for Navarre he moved the ball, something Josh is, was, and always will be inept at doing.
 

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kerouac9 said:
Were you at the game on Saturday? When I was looking at the punt unit, Anderson was lined up as a gunner on every down where I was paying attention. Perhaps the worm has turned against Scobey and in favor of Morrow? I remember Tate and Anderson as the gunners in the punt game...
TIVO'd the game and I thought I saw Scobey on the line rushing the punter. I could be wrong though, I'll watch it again later today.
 

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Tell me what Josh has done with those great legs of his. Except find the most opponents bunched up in one place and try try to run them over head first. Another statue Manning has had longer runs then Josh. Even Warner has busted longer runs then Josh.

For Joshs great legs he hasn't done anything to impress me with them.

As for Navarre he moved the ball, something Josh is, was, and always will be inept at doing.

We'll see what Coach Green decides... and, I've little doubt... that you'll be disappointed.

P.S. feel free to offer up all the stats to back up your self-serving assertions.
 

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We'll see what Coach Green decides... and, I've little doubt... that you'll be disappointed.

P.S. feel free to offer up all the stats to back up your self-serving assertions.

Josh does not flow. He looks paniced in the pocket. He is thinking too much and that causes him to throw the ball late and behind the receiver. Navarre looked better but it was later in the game. Josh did not move the team.

I think Navarre gets in this weeks game ahead of Josh to play with the second team. If Navarre looks as good then he will have beaten Josh out IMO and Navarre will be #2 and Josh #3. Now, the question is, do we find a vet QB to back up Warner and let Navarre and Josh fight it out for the final job.
 

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Josh does not flow. He looks paniced in the pocket. He is thinking too much and that causes him to throw the ball late and behind the receiver. Navarre looked better but it was later in the game. Josh did not move the team.

I think Navarre gets in this weeks game ahead of Josh to play with the second team. If Navarre looks as good then he will have beaten Josh out IMO and Navarre will be #2 and Josh #3. Now, the question is, do we find a vet QB to back up Warner and let Navarre and Josh fight it out for the final job.


It's only a question to be answered, if one accepts all of your earlier assertions. I don't. If we lose our starting QB over the course of the season, I suggest... it will probably be because ofr poor protection by our O-line.

So you actually think that Green is then going to turn the team over to a guy with cement feet? (Navarre). Don't think so!

Further, take a look at the sequence of plays under McCown near the end ofr the first half... The team was moving.

By the way: How do you see panic and too much thinking, from the comfort of your seat? :D
 
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OK...after Game 1...here are some slight changes...

QB: Same (WARNER, McCown, Navarre)

RB: Keepers (Arrington, Shipp, Redmond, Ayanbadejo). Replace Jackson with Anderson and Hodgins with Morrow. Damien Anderson looked very strong Sat. night. He has good vision and he's been a solid ontributor on special teams. Morrow's special teams prowess gives him the edge as the #2 FB. Hodgins is good enough to garner some interest in the trade market. The Cardinals won't keep three FBs.

WR: Keepers (Boldin, Johnson, Fitzgerald, Lee). Replace Hamilton with Newhouse. Reggie's a better special teams player and he's productive when he gets on the field. Hamilton has lots of talent, but he's like Bryan Gilmore, either hurt or quiet when he's on the field.

TE: Keepers (Edwards, Bergen). Replace Bronson with Golliday...although this #3 TE spot is up for grabs...Blizzard and Stokes are still strongly in the mix as well. It's also not a sure thing that DG will choose to keep 3 TEs. He may decide to keep 2...and sign Bronson and Stokes to the PS.

OL: Keepers (Davis, Wells, Stepanovich, Bridges, Ross, Allen, Leckey, Brown). replace Newton with Haayer. Haayer's versatility gives him the nod this week. He can play all three line positions and with Step out for now, keeping Haayer makes the most sense.

ST: Same (Player, Rackers, Hodel).

DL: Same (Okeafor, Dockett, Davis, Berry, Pace, King, Kolodziej, Zellner, Smith).

LB: Same (Dansby, Hayes, Huff, Blackstock, Darling, Mitchell).

DB: Same (Macklin, Wilson, Griffith, Rolle, Tate, Green, Walls, Harris, Francisco). Walls and Harris played very well on special teams and Francisco showed good range and open field tackling ability.

Recap of Changes: New Addition in CAPS...old in parens

RB: ANDERSON (Jackson)

FB: MORROW (Hodgins)

WR: NEWHOUSE (Hamilton)

OL: HAAYER (Newton)

Updated Practice Squad:

TE Bronson, TE Stokes, WR McCoy, WR Sheldon, WR Holliday, K Fordyce, DT Bulman, DB Reid.

What's YOUR updated roster prediction? I love hearing your thoughts.
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Week 3 Roster Prediction Update

QB: Same (WARNER, McCown, Navarre)

RB: Keepers (ARRINGTON, Shipp, Redmond, Ayanbadejo, Anderson, Morrow). The three questions are: (1) Will DG keep a #4 RB? (2) Will DG keep 3 FBs? (3) Are James Jackson and James Hodgins on the outside looking in? IMO, they may be. Jackson has been hurt and didn't play all that great in week one. Anderson has been playing very well, especially on special teams...so he gets the nod right now if DG keeps 4 RBs...and it's possible DG may not...but, I think he will because of Anderson's value as a special teamer. I think Harold Morrow is a lock for the same reason. James Hodgins is still a good player, but he's not blocking nearly as well as he used to...and he's not a factor on special teams the way Morrow is. Just the same, I think he will stick.

WR: Keepers (BOLDIN, JOHNSON, FITZGERALD, Lee). Reggie Newhouse appears to be the #5 WR...but what the team really needs is a speedy slot receiver. Dan Sheldon fits the mold, but he really needs a year on the practice squad to develop. I think DG and RG will be scanning the waiver wires...or they may even contemplate a trade, such as what the Patriots just did trading a 5th rounder for Andre Davis...I would love to see the Cards trade for Troy Brown...the Pats are deep at WR and newly acquired Tim Dwight seems to have supplanted Brown as the main return guy...Troy Brown's leadership, ability to wreak havoc out of the slot and his outstanding punt return skills would fit the Cardinals' needs like a glove...plus he'd be a veteran presence for the young super trio. While I think the Cards like Newhouse...he needs to beat out Charles Lee for #5...because the #4 WR will arrive either through waivers or a trade.

TE: Keepers (GOLLIDAY, Bergen). DG has implied recently that injured Eric Edwards may not make the roster. I think DG will place him on the IR if his torn pec muscle doesn't heal within the next week. My guess is that DG wmay only keep 2 TEs...Bergen will be one of them, for sure. Golliday is likely to stick, and if a good TE like Jed Weaver (Pats) is waived...DG may jump all over him.

OL: Keepers (DAVIS, WELLS, STEPANOVICH, BROWN, ROSS, Leckey). I think DG will keep 9 offensive linemen...and right now it wouldn't surprise me if the three backups in addition to the list above will all be added from the waiver wire. Fred Wakefield is a sentimental choice...but DG isn't about sentiment when picking his team. Jeremy Bridges was only average against the Chiefs' second stringers and needs to get going if he is going to stick. Messers Conaty, Reuber, Haayer, and Allen need to play very well the next two weeks to have a chance of staying. I think DG still has a card up his sleeve...I think Step will be tried at guard...and it's quite possible that free agent guard David Dixon will come out of his brief retirement to join Denny and former teammate Everett Lindsay in Arizona. If Dixon has been getting in shape for this move, this could be the shot in the arm the Cards' offensive line needs.

DL: Keepers (OKEAFOR, DOCKETT, DAVIS, BERRY, Pace). Right now the depth along the defensive line appears to be as thin as the depth on the offensive line. Pepi Zellner will stick if he can get healthy...but, so far, no go. Antonio Smith still doesn't appear to be ready and may be headed to the PS. As for the backup DT spots, while Keith Wright and Tim Bulman played reasonably well versus KC, they don't look roster ready. Ross Kolodziej looked slow at LDE and he's undersized to play the interior with any regular success. My guess is that the Cards will be waiver wire pirates once again to add two DTs. Kenny King will either be waived and receive an injury settlement or he'll be placed on the IR for another year. It's pretty obvious his wrist isn't strong enough yet to allow him to play...and the Cards have to determine whether that wrist will ever be well enough for King to play again.

LB: Keepers (HUFF, DARLING, DANSBY, Blackstock, Hayes (PUP)). Lester Towns has a golden opportunity to make the team, now that Gerald Hayes will be out for 8-10 weeks. Towns may even win the MLB job, if he proves stouter in the middle than Darling. Lance Mitchell hasn't produced the way DG had hoped...and will probably land on the practice squad. The sixth linebacker will be added through waivers. And if Towns falters, another MLB will be added through waivers as well.

DB: Keepers (ROLLE, WILSON, GRIFFITH, MACLIN, Green, Ohalete). While Robert Tate would appear to be a lock...suddenly he is not. With Eric Green emerging as the likely nickel back and young talents like Jermaine Hardy, Rhett Nelson and Lamont Reid in the picture, Tate may need a stellar two weeks to stick. It's likely he will...and likely that Hardy and Reid will wind up on the practice squad. The way Raymond Walls is playing on special teams...he has a decent chance of sticking. Ifeanyi Ohalete solidified his spot on the roster with his performance this week. The backup strong safety spot will be decided between Quentin Harris and fast-rising Ernest Shazor. Shazor's value on the open market, may make DG and RG hesitate about placing him on waivers. Of all the Cardinal backups who may be headed to the waiver wire, Shazor is the one who is most likely to get claimed. He was the most highly sought UCFA for a reason...and teams are always attracted to high-profile Michigan players. Some other team will roll the dice on Shazor...there is no doubt. In fact, the Patriots would claim him as fast as his name would hit the waiver wire...and he would back up Rodney Harrison.

ST: Keepers (RACKERS, HODEL, PLAYER). Rackers missed a short field goal and appeared to roll his ankle on a subsequent kickoff...but his play in general has been strong.

PS Prediction (Updated): WR McCoy or Holliday, WR Sheldon, TE Bronson, DT Bulman, DE Smith, LB Mitchell, CB Hardy, CB Reid. (I still hope for S Aaron Francisco).

Roster Update Summary

QB: (3) WARNER, McCown, Navarre

RB: (7) ARRINGTON, Shipp, Redmond, Anderson, Ayanbadejo, Hodgins, Morrow

WR: (5) BOLDIN, JOHNSON, FITZGERALD, Lee, TBD (speedy slot WR from Waivers)

TE: (3) TBD (Jed Weaver or from Waivers), Golliday, Bergen (Edwards on IR)

OL: (9) DAVIS, WELLS, STEPANOVICH, BROWN, ROSS, Leckey, TBD (G David Dixon), TBD (G/T from Waivers), TBD (T from Waivers)

DL: (8) OKEAFOR, DOCKETT, DAVIS, BERRY, Pace, TBD (DE Zellner, if healthy), TBD (DT from Waivers), TBD (DT from Waivers) (K. King on IR)

LB: (6) HUFF, DARLING, DANSBY, Blackstock, TBD (MLB Towns or from Waivers), TDB (OLB from Waivers)

DB: (9) ROLLE, WILSON, GRIFFITH, MACKLIN, Green, Ohalete, Tate, Walls, Shazor

ST: (3) RACKERS, HODEL, PLAYER

TOTAL: (53)
 

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I really think Reid and Wakefield will make the roster. BTW Mitch there is no way we pick up that many players from the waiver wire.
 

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