******** Rule Clarification--QBs really SHOULD wear skirts

[Stout]

Okay, the NFL is simply going too damn far in protecting the sissy-boys...er, sorry, I meant QBs. Good lord, what's the next rule going to be? You can only tackle QBs after saying the double-secret password, shaking their hand and asking permission?

Now, if a defender falls to the ground without being blocked there or fouled there (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), he can't lunge at the QB's legs. Wha-wha-what? Excuse me? You slip to the ground, and suddenly you aren't allowed to try a shoestring tackle? Re-tar-ded. I'm sorry, but this is pussification of the NFL.

 

[Mulli]

Another rule for Tom Brady.

 

[moklerman]

It is kind of funny how the league didn't even blink when this happened to Carson Palmer--in the playoffs vs. Pittsburgh with gazillions watching, yet when Brady goes down vs. KC in a meaningless game the rule is changed.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Eh, it's a qb driven league. After seeing and hearing about the old timers who can't walk, and are committing suicide or miserable because of their brain damage, I tend to be more sympathetic to rules intended to protect the players. Most of these guys regardless will be paying for their time in the NFL the rest of their lives.

 

[CardLogic]

Why doesn't the league simply institute a new rule which states, it is illegal to touch the QB; and be done with it!

 

[joeshmo]

It is kind of funny how the league didn't even blink when this happened to Carson Palmer--in the playoffs vs. Pittsburgh with gazillions watching, yet when Brady goes down vs. KC in a meaningless game the rule is changed.

The efforts to get that rule actually started with the Palmer hit in the last owners meeting a year ago. It didnt pass by 2 votes. It did in fact start with Palmer and a few others. It was just the Brady hit that swayed the remaining few votes.

Also you can still shoe string tackle, you just cant lunge, meaning you can still drag the QB down while you are on the ground.

 

[Stout]

The efforts to get that rule actually started with the Palmer hit in the last owners meeting a year ago. It didnt pass by 2 votes. It did in fact start with Palmer and a few others. It was just the Brady hit that swayed the remaining few votes.

Also you can still shoe string tackle, you just cant lunge, meaning you can still drag the QB down while you are on the ground.

By definition, to get to a shoestring tackle, especially while on the ground, you will be lunging.

 

[Ryanwb]

Hmmm... Castle is in Kansas City, the dude who took out Brady's knee is in Kansas City. I smell a conspiracy the size of Denny Green's waistline

 

[Carddan]

I smell a conspiracy the size of Denny Green's waistline

Personal foul for using the words "smell" and "Denny Green's waistline" in the same sentence.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I think that if the owners are going to make it so hard to hit the QB correctly, and with force, that in turn the "in the grasp" rule should also be inforced more strictly.

I have no problem with protecting a QB, but I have a HUGE problem when a defender has the QB "in the grasp" and because he cannot haul off and knock the QB's block off, the QB then gets this B.S. dinky throw off ONLY BECAUSE THE DEFENDER DIDN'T DESTROY HIM and it is called an incomplete pass.

OR when the QB who is in the grasp continually fights and wiggles as the refs choke on their whistle and then "magically" breaks free.

That is what gets on my nerves.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I have a huge problem with treating one position different than another.. period.

Cry me a river.. I could name hundreds if not thousands of professions 10 times more dangerous (With less than 1 percent the pay a starting QB makes) Suck it up Nancy-boys, that's why you get the big $$.

 

[joeshmo]

By definition, to get to a shoestring tackle, especially while on the ground, you will be lunging.

???

That isnt by definition even in the slightest.

Your on the ground you grab and pull down. Has nothing to do with lunging. For example - A tackle is a tackle regardless but there is a difference between tackling a guy and launching yourself and leaving the ground, which would get you a penalty. Its the same principle in this case, you can still tackle you just cant launch yourself.

 

[joeshmo]

I have a huge problem with treating one position different than another.. period.

Cry me a river.. I could name hundreds if not thousands of professions 10 times more dangerous (With less than 1 percent the pay a starting QB makes) Suck it up Nancy-boys, that's why you get the big $$.

Devils advocate but do these same dangerous jobs only allow for an average career of 5 years, or a career that millions of people watch to see certian players play and is based on multimedia money.

Anyways they also passed rules this week that you cant blind side a guy by hitting them in the head with a forearm, shoulder, or helmet, which would make the Hines Ward hit on that LB illegal today. They passed 3 rules today that will make it illegal for any kind of blow to the head no matter what position. So they are not just trying to protect the QB they are making efforts to protect everyone.

 

[Magoo]

Some of these rules are getting absurd. I expect to see several more games decided by the referees due to these rules that will be a "point of emphasis".

I understand the need for player safety, but I wonder what the rules will be like for defenders in 2020.

 

[Bobcat]

Good rule change...!!! Players are getting so strong and so strong the QB's all have a big target on their backs. Just look at what happened to the Cardinals when Neil Lomax got hurt. We didn't get a descent QB until Jake, well for all of the Jake haters until Kurt and Matt.


BOBCAT

 

[Pariah]

I have a huge problem with treating one position different than another.. period.

Cry me a river.. I could name hundreds if not thousands of professions 10 times more dangerous (With less than 1 percent the pay a starting QB makes) Suck it up Nancy-boys, that's why you get the big $$.

I'm not sure I even disagree with you, but to play devil's advocate: the NFL isn't just protecting the QB, it's protecting the popularity of the sport. If the star QBs aren't going to be playing entire seasons or lost to the game prematurely because of injury, the theory goes that the game will be less popular. Like it or not, the NFL is a star-driven business and QBs are the biggest stars they have. So, by protecting the QB, the NFL is protecting its assets.

 

[PoolBoy]

I think that if the owners are going to make it so hard to hit the QB correctly, and with force, that in turn the "in the grasp" rule should also be inforced more strictly.

I have no problem with protecting a QB, but I have a HUGE problem when a defender has the QB "in the grasp" and because he cannot haul off and knock the QB's block off, the QB then gets this B.S. dinky throw off ONLY BECAUSE THE DEFENDER DIDN'T DESTROY HIM and it is called an incomplete pass.

OR when the QB who is in the grasp continually fights and wiggles as the refs choke on their whistle and then "magically" breaks free.

That is what gets on my nerves.

coughBenRoethlisbergercough

 

[Trophytown]

Good rule change...!!! Players are getting so strong and so strong the QB's all have a big target on their backs. Just look at what happened to the Cardinals when Neil Lomax got hurt. We didn't get a descent QB until Jake, well for all of the Jake haters until Kurt and Matt.


BOBCAT

Kids sign up for the military and get assigned to combat units daily. Guys raise their hands and are sworn to protect and serve the community with a badge daily. They know the risks involved........possible death.

Football is a full-contact sport. There will be violent hits. If you decide at a young age that you want to dedicate your life to the sport of football, be prepared to deal with the inherent danger of violent collisions and potential career-ending injuries. If the league wants to mandate safety to protect its stars and these stars arent just confined to QB's. If they really wanna promote safety for all involved just do away with pads and go with shorts, shirts and waistband with a flag on each side.

No one gets hurt !!! Except the popularity of the game we've all come to appreciate so much for its physical nature.

 

[Savage58]

Welcome to the PFL, pussified-league, incoming new favorite sport MMA anybody?

This is only the beginning, QB driven league is for the uneducated fan IMO, I don't need Tom Brady or Peyton Manning playing to enjoy football, if the layman doesn't, lets create a league for them, like the Arena League. Give the players foam gloves with sensors on it and when they touch the QB below the waist he's down?

I require hard hitting, good blocking, shedding, scraping, tackling, cuts, seperation, catches, throws, diagramed blitzes, coverages etc. to enjoy the game, not some pampered star who needs extra rules, so the owners came latch onto his name to sell tickets. Or in better terms, so that the Media can latch onto a single player on the team and give them all the glory and all the blame, and not have to pay attention to the rest of the game or know wtf else is going on during the game.

This kind of rule makes me sick, how many injuries are defensive ends going to get when he is vulnerable at the QBs, legs, and has to hesitate before that OT jumps on his elbow, or knee after he was beaten by said DE.

Offense sells tickets, is unfortunately the main reason behind a lame ass rule like this, bah humbug!

 

[Stout]

???

That isnt by definition even in the slightest.

Your on the ground you grab and pull down. Has nothing to do with lunging. For example - A tackle is a tackle regardless but there is a difference between tackling a guy and launching yourself and leaving the ground, which would get you a penalty. Its the same principle in this case, you can still tackle you just cant launch yourself.

Okay, I'll give you one caveat--if the QB is standing within easy reach of the player laying on the ground, then no, he wouldn't have to lunge. Okay, so when does that happen? Oh, right, next to never! If you slip to the ground, the NFL is in a roundabout way saying that you have to stand up again before you decide to pursue the QB. BULLCRAP! You crawl, you lunge, you push, you claw, you get the QB down. No, you can't hit him in the head, horse collar him, grab him by the face mask. Of course not. Can't lunge from the ground? Absolute STUPIDITY.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

How about just converting to Flag Football?

 

[IAWarnerFan]

How about just converting to Flag Football?

How about two hand touch football?

 

[1DS]

..$$$Cash moves everything around me....



Wu-Tang had it right.

 

[Shogun]

..$$$Cash moves everything around me....



Wu-Tang had it right.

It's cash rules....hence C.R.E.A.M.

But yeah, I do loathe the pussification of the league. Even more so after watching older games. How can many more ways can you limit the defense from making a play?

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Devils advocate but do these same dangerous jobs only allow for an average career of 5 years, or a career that millions of people watch to see certian players play and is based on multimedia money.

Anyways they also passed rules this week that you cant blind side a guy by hitting them in the head with a forearm, shoulder, or helmet, which would make the Hines Ward hit on that LB illegal today. They passed 3 rules today that will make it illegal for any kind of blow to the head no matter what position. So they are not just trying to protect the QB they are making efforts to protect everyone.

Where is the data that suggests that when Brady went down, The Patriots failed to exist as a money making machine?