Ryan Lindley

[Garthshort]

He seems like the poster boy for a third string QB. He has size, and arm strength, but needs development. I don't know enough about mechanics, but I'm guessing his are bad. Hopefully, they'll improve as he gets coached up. Looked like he can move around in the pocket but not out of the pocket, not being very athletic. That's why he had to take an intentional grounding penalty late in the game. I'm hoping his low completion percentage, in college and last Sunday, were due to poor mechanics and that they can be improved. Looks like a good late round pick, that will take a couple of years to develop, if he ever does. If KK can come back, Lindley probably means the end of Rich Bartel as a Cardinal.

 

[JeffGollin]

You can see the arm strength and you can see slight improvement in decisionmaking and accuracy, but the consistency nowhere near where it needs to be.

Like many raw rookies, he'd make a few impressive throws, but then, on two successive plays inside the NO 10-yard line, miss wide-open receivers in the end zone and then throw a pick.

You can see the upside, and you can track the improvement, but, as with many rookie QB's, the 64-hundred dollar question will be whether or not he'll continue to improve - and at what rate.

I thought he came into camp, somewhat behind Bartel on the depth chart. As of today, I'd rate the two dead-even with plenty of time in preseason for that to change.

(Final note - Kolb's lack of durability may determine who stays and who goes - If you were sure you had 2 durable QB's, you might opt to keep the #3 QB with the highest upside (Lindley). But if you only had one durable QB, you might opt for more experience (Bartel)

 

[MadCardDisease]

According to Somers, Skelton looked shaky today against the Cheifs. Lindley on the other hand had a pretty good practice and was the best of the bunch during redzone drills (of couse Kold was still sidelined).

 

[Mainstreet]

I wouldn't want the Cardinals to play Bartel for experience sake because if they need to use him they are going to lose anyway. If Kolb should remove himself from the equation, I would want to go with Skelton, Lindley and Bartel in that order. There is no future with Bartel other than a third QB.

 

[Buckybird]

According to Somers, Skelton looked shaky today against the Cheifs. Lindley on the other hand had a pretty good practice and was the best of the bunch during redzone drills (of couse Kold was still sidelined).

I watch all of what the NFLN showed live today in 7 on 7 & Skelton completed very few of his attempts

 

[artp]

He seems like the poster boy for a third string QB. He has size, and arm strength, but needs development. I don't know enough about mechanics, but I'm guessing his are bad. Hopefully, they'll improve as he gets coached up. Looked like he can move around in the pocket but not out of the pocket, not being very athletic. That's why he had to take an intentional grounding penalty late in the game. I'm hoping his low completion percentage, in college and last Sunday, were due to poor mechanics and that they can be improved. Looks like a good late round pick, that will take a couple of years to develop, if he ever does. If KK can come back, Lindley probably means the end of Rich Bartel as a Cardinal.

QB R Lindley already means the end of R Bartel as a Cardinal QB

 

[seesred]

I watched the NFL station and they were live at the KC Cards practice. Skelton IMO hit like ten in a row. He did make some over throws, but on the seven on seven he looked good. I don't know what Sommers was watching!

Roberts caught everything and 17 caught evrery ball his way as did number 15. It was fun to watch as everyone was in the mix making plays.

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[Mainstreet]

There are game players and then there are practice players. Skelton is at his worst when he thinks too much instead of reacts.

 

[Duckjake]

I watch all of what the NFLN showed live today in 7 on 7 & Skelton completed very few of his attempts

MadCardDisease According to Somers, Skelton looked shaky today against the Cheifs. Lindley on the other hand had a pretty good practice and was the best of the bunch during redzone drills (of couse Kold was still sidelined).

Awesome. That's what we heard from Camp last week and Double Deuce was money Sunday. But unless he has improved from last season in his throwing it won't matter in the real games and we'll be 5-11, again.

 

[Buckybird]

Awesome. That's what we heard from Camp last week and Double Deuce was money Sunday. But unless he has improved from last season in his throwing it won't matter in the real games and we'll be 5-11, again.

I still say we bring in Colt when he gets axed since he's now 3rd string, but I know we won't.

 

[Camshaft]

Impressions

I was impressed with his arm strength but a lot of fuddyduddies have arm strenth. The thing I was really excited about was how quick his release can be when it needs to. Also, to a lessor extent, his football speed and field of sight were impressive.

 

[Goldfield]

I like what I have seen from Lindley so far. Imo Bartell is a gonner.

 

[Chopper0080]

I like what I have seen from Lindley so far. Imo Bartell is a gonner.

I'm not quite to that point but I believe it is getting very close.

 

[JeffGollin]

According to Somers, Skelton looked shaky today against the Cheifs. Lindley on the other hand had a pretty good practice and was the best of the bunch during redzone drills (of couse Kold was still sidelined).

NFLN showed highlights of the workout; so I got to see some of it. My perception was closer to SeesRed's than BuckyBird's. (Goes to show you; beauty or lack thereof is, indeed, evident in the eye of the beholder).

Skelton started out by overthrowing his receiver (so what's new?) compelling the announcer to point out that "he has to work on his consistency." He then settled down and completed a bunch of passes (including one over the middle that Floyd managed to hang onto despite getting thumped by the DB). I'm not sure if it was Skelton or Lindley who hit Byrd for a pretty TD deep down the right sideline.

Lindley did look pretty good out there, consistently hitting receivers.

Then Bartel took some snaps but missed his receivers more than once or twice.

Cautionary note - It was 7 on 7. There was no pass-rush pressure (which removed the big issue we need to deal with when evaluating these dudes). All of the QB's should have been hitting their receivers 100% of the time.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I like Lindley but can we afford Lindley is the question. I know it is not Whiz's style to keep a lot of Qbs on the rosters but our QB situation is questionable at best. I would keep Lindley on the PS and sign Matt Moore or McCoy to go along with Skelton and Kolb.

We have the cap space, a 1 yr deal is not much of a risk and again the position is not being locked down by any QB in the current group. It makes too much sense to bring in a guy like Matt Moore who has shown to be, at best servicable. Even better, both are used to playing behind bad OLs.

Kolb is still running around too much. Skelton still has the mental block, in which he starts off horribly with his passing. It is not a promising situation so far.



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[JeffGollin]

I like Lindley but can we afford Lindley is the question.

It centers on 2 factors: (1) Kolb's health/viability and (2) whether Bartel's experience edge over Lindley is considered enough to make any difference.

If the coaches feel comfortable enough with Skelton & Kolb (in either order), they might feel they can get away with going with the bigger upside of the less-experienced Lindley. But if Kolb's durability remained enough of an issue that might risk going into the season with only one seasoned QB (Skelton), they might feel more secure with the more experienced Bartel as #3.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Lindley did throw the best pass in my opinion of the game against the Saints which was a dart, hitting the moving receiver in the numbers which was DROPPED!

 

[JeffGollin]

Lindley did throw the best pass in my opinion of the game against the Saints which was a dart, hitting the moving receiver in the numbers which was DROPPED!

That be Jaymar?

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd cringe if the Cardinals kept Bartel over Lindley. There is no future with Bartel. There may be a future with Lindley.

 

[cardpa]

I watched the game second half last night and thought Lindley looked pretty good for a rookie. I liked that he threw the ball away instead of forcing it. He seemed to see the field pretty good. His receivers had a couple of drops at a bad time. I don't recall him forcing any throw into coverage. This to me is a good start. Seems to be a bit ahead of the learning curve.

 

[Goldfield]

I watched the game second half last night and thought Lindley looked pretty good for a rookie. I liked that he threw the ball away instead of forcing it. He seemed to see the field pretty good. His receivers had a couple of drops at a bad time. I don't recall him forcing any throw into coverage. This to me is a good start. Seems to be a bit ahead of the learning curve.

I saw the same.

 

[Pariah]

We need to stop fooling ourselves. I don't think there's a QBoF on the roster right now. Heck, I think there's only a QB of the Now on the roster by default--"now" is here and we have what we have.

I hope I'm wrong and Kolb can settle down in the pocket or Skelton can find more accuracy...but the Magic 8-Ball says "future does not look good."

 

[Duckjake]

We need to stop fooling ourselves. I don't think there's a QBoF on the roster right now. Heck, I think there's only a QB of the Now on the roster by default--"now" is here and we have what we have.

I hope I'm wrong and Kolb can settle down in the pocket or Skelton can find more accuracy...but the Magic 8-Ball says "future does not look good."

At least there's the hope that Stout is right and Skelton's troubles are a result of simply not having high level coaching and competition in college and not getting enough reps and detailed coaching in practice with the Cardinals. There's always that second SF game to hang our hats on.

But I'm not going to hold my breath too long. We've waited for other scatter armed QBs to improve before and it hasn't happened. That's why I thought it was ridiculous to draft Lindley. Even as late as they did. He was scatter armed in college!

I have little hope that Kolb will be good enough or healthy enough to allow the Cards to win games. No matter how well the defense plays. To me he just doesn't have the physical or mental makeup to be a winning NFL QB.

So, yeah, I agree with your Magic 8-Ball.

 

[Buckybird]

We need to stop fooling ourselves. I don't think there's a QBoF on the roster right now. Heck, I think there's only a QB of the Now on the roster by default--"now" is here and we have what we have.

I hope I'm wrong and Kolb can settle down in the pocket or Skelton can find more accuracy...but the Magic 8-Ball says "future does not look good."

I've been saying the same thing for a year now & why I wanted us to go all in for Luck or RGIII