Ryan Williams NOT active

[PDXChris]

Well, the head coach has sole control over who's active on game day, and the General Manager has final say on who makes the 53-man roster.

Draw your own conclusions about what this means.

The GM gave the HC insurance incase we had the same type of injury bug as last year at RB when the HC wanted his guy, an injury prone RB, to be the guy. The HC has not needed to go there and is instead is letting the young guys get experience instead of someone who is likley gone after this year. That is my conclusion and it seems pretty sound to me and I have no issue with Williams there just in case.

 

[BigRedRage]

PS: its a good thing we activated the special teams guy instead as he had that bomb from palmer that set us up early.

 

[kerouac9]

The GM gave the HC insurance incase we had the same type of injury bug as last year at RB when the HC wanted his guy, an injury prone RB, to be the guy. The HC has not needed to go there and is instead is letting the young guys get experience instead of someone who is likley gone after this year. That is my conclusion and it seems pretty sound to me and I have no issue with Williams there just in case.

And yet, when one of the active RBs went down with just the kind of injury you described, Ryan Williams remained inactive. Not "didn't play," but "remained inactive."

How does that fit into your hypothesis?

Meanwhile, I have no problem with the Head Coach disagreeing with the GM on the value of this blown second-round pick. I just think that it's embarrassing that we have a 2nd round pick sitting on the bench when whatever practice reps are available could be given to a player we'd develop for the future.

 

[PDXChris]

And yet, when one of the active RBs went down with just the kind of injury you described, Ryan Williams remained inactive. Not "didn't play," but "remained inactive."

How does that fit into your hypothesis?

Meanwhile, I have no problem with the Head Coach disagreeing with the GM on the value of this blown second-round pick. I just think that it's embarrassing that we have a 2nd round pick sitting on the bench when whatever practice reps are available could be given to a player we'd develop for the future.

It does not change anything. Taylor and Smith are active for ST's and can also play RB. No need for a 4th at this point. If Mendy and one of the other three were hurt and then Williams was inactive, then there would be a problem with my hypothesis. But hey, I am a glass half full kind of guy instead of fearing the glass was laced with ricin from my Stevia.

 

[FORKTUNG]

Isn't Williams the same height as Ellington - 5'9 ???

 

[BigRedRage]

Isn't Williams the same height as Ellington - 5'9 ???

5'9 207 if you count his knees

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Alphonso Smith is the lesser of the evils at this point?

Plays special teams, and plays them well.

Plus Stepfan Taylor just pushed him down to #4 on the depth chart....at least I would assume that is what happened after yesterday.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

is this the last year of his rookie contract?
its been a very strange saga indeed

No.

He has two years left on his contract, and will cost about 2 million against the cap next season if kept.

I think what will happen is Mendenhall will be allowed to walk in the offseason, and Ellington, Taylor, Williams, and Smith will be penciled in as our RB core for 2014.

 

[Cards Czar]

At this point I have to wonder if Lil' Sweetness still remembers how to play the game for kripe's sake.

I like what I've seen Ellington and Taylor (who wouldn't?) so I get the feeling that we'll cut or trade Williams next season...and this paid vacation he's enjoyed during this season-o-rehab will allow him to tear it up somewhere else...for 7 games...then pop goes the weasel cuz the weasel goes pop!

Wooo, not a proverb from the brother of Professor Glump is it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS8zi7Dg8TM

 

[82CardsGrad]

Well, Ellington is obviously better at this point and Taylor looked good during meaningfull carries. The carries in the 4th didnt look great but they wouldnt for any RB.

Maybe these two are simply better than williams.

I never mentioned Ellington as he is clearly our best back - by far! IMHO, I think the separation between Taylor, Fonzy and Williams is neglible - with Williams being the best of those three... and yet, he doesn't suit up. I find it very odd...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Well, if there's no way that you'll accept it, why bother discussing it. Taylor was nearly as productive in this one game than Williams has been in his entire professional career.

You might consider asking yourself why it's difficult for you to believe that Ryan Williams might just not be good at football.

I think you're trying - vainly, to be funny K9. Seriously, you can chirp all day long about Williams and his inability to get back onto the field. For which, there can be myriad guesses as to why that is... And you can criticize the Cards for all their poor drafting over the past 2 decades or more... However, I think you would find it nearly impossible to locate a 2nd rounder who "isn't good at football"...

Like I said, Ellington is clearly, BY FAR, our best back. However, what separates Taylor, Fonzy and Williams is a paper-thin margin and IMHO, I believe Williams is the best of that group...

 

[BigRedRage]

I never mentioned Ellington as he is clearly our best back - by far! IMHO, I think the separation between Taylor, Fonzy and Williams is neglible - with Williams being the best of those three... and yet, he doesn't suit up. I find it very odd...

Taylor is a different type of back and compliments ellingtons style.

Fonzy vs williams you may have an argument. both get no yards and fumble the football but smith can play the following week so maybe that is the main d ifference

 

[BigRedRage]

, I believe Williams is the best of that group...

why? have you been watching college highlights?

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Wooo, not a proverb from the brother of Professor Glump is it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS8zi7Dg8TM

 

[82CardsGrad]

why? have you been watching college highlights?

No... but since this board is about expressing our opinions - guess that's what I'm doing here...
IMHO, Ellington is our pure speed/true home-run threat each time he touches the ball - which is so great to have on our side!
Taylor is more of a plodder style, but is a nice balance to Ellington. Williams is the quicker/more shifty back of the three (or was...). Interestingly, the three are all essentially the same size - all 5'9" and roughly 205-210 pounds.

I just believe it is way past the time for Williams to see some playing time. Seriously, at a minimum, get Fonzy out of there and give the kid a shot.

 

[BigRedRage]

No... but since this board is about expressing our opinions - guess that's what I'm doing here...
IMHO, Ellington is our pure speed/true home-run threat each time he touches the ball - which is so great to have on our side!
Taylor is more of a plodder style, but is a nice balance to Ellington. Williams is the quicker/more shifty back of the three (or was...). Interestingly, the three are all essentially the same size - all 5'9" and roughly 205-210 pounds.

I just believe it is way past the time for Williams to see some playing time. Seriously, at a minimum, get Fonzy out of there and give the kid a shot.

I agreed for a while but when he didnt even sniff the field this game, hes toast. I dont expect to see him this year unless the injury bug hits the RB position.

I say leave ellington at RB starter the rest of the year and let him and Mathieu battle it out for ROY

 

[82CardsGrad]

I agreed for a while but when he didnt even sniff the field this game, hes toast. I dont expect to see him this year unless the injury bug hits the RB position.

I say leave ellington at RB starter the rest of the year and let him and Mathieu battle it out for ROY

Dude - I am not suggesting Williams should replace Ellington!

 

[BigRedRage]

Dude - I am not suggesting Williams should replace Ellington!

Never said you did, that was just a further comment on what I think opf the current situation. nOnly the first sentence had to do with williams.

 

[crisper57]

Trade Williams! Ravens were working out Beanie when he got hurt. If they are kicking the tires on him, we can dangle R. Williams out there for something.

 

[cardncubfan]

No... but since this board is about expressing our opinions - guess that's what I'm doing here...
IMHO, Ellington is our pure speed/true home-run threat each time he touches the ball - which is so great to have on our side!
Taylor is more of a plodder style, but is a nice balance to Ellington. Williams is the quicker/more shifty back of the three (or was...). Interestingly, the three are all essentially the same size - all 5'9" and roughly 205-210 pounds.

I just believe it is way past the time for Williams to see some playing time. Seriously, at a minimum, get Fonzy out of there and give the kid a shot.

I agree 82. I think Williams should 7-10 touches in a game just to see if the knee is healed & what we have.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think you're trying - vainly, to be funny K9. Seriously, you can chirp all day long about Williams and his inability to get back onto the field. For which, there can be myriad guesses as to why that is... And you can criticize the Cards for all their poor drafting over the past 2 decades or more... However, I think you would find it nearly impossible to locate a 2nd rounder who "isn't good at football"...

Like I said, Ellington is clearly, BY FAR, our best back. However, what separates Taylor, Fonzy and Williams is a paper-thin margin and IMHO, I believe Williams is the best of that group...

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Taylor is a better back than Williams (he has actually done more than Williams in a small amount of time compared to the often injured Williams). I will also say even say Smith is a better back. It is not paper thin. How can anyone say a often injured back which they have not seen of recent on the field is equal to other guys. Sorry, there is no logic in that.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I think what will happen is Mendenhall will be allowed to walk in the offseason, and Ellington, Taylor, Williams, and Smith will be penciled in as our RB core for 2014.

Sounds about right. But we may bring in some bodies to challenge RW since he can't seem to get healthy

 

[JeffGollin]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Taylor is a better back than Williams (he has actually done more than Williams in a small amount of time compared to the often injured Williams). I will also say even say Smith is a better back. It is not paper thin. How can anyone say a often injured back which they have not seen of recent on the field is equal to other guys. Sorry, there is no logic in that.

Apples and Apricots.

Williams is similar in style to Ellington. Taylor is similar in style to Mendenhall. both sets of backs are useful in different ways: Mendy and Taylor between the tackles in short yardage situations; Ryan and Andre smaller but faster, quicker, shiftier and more explosive - better at attacking the perimeter and breaking an occasional long run.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Taylor is a better back than Williams (he has actually done more than Williams in a small amount of time compared to the often injured Williams). I will also say even say Smith is a better back. It is not paper thin. How can anyone say a often injured back which they have not seen of recent on the field is equal to other guys. Sorry, there is no logic in that.

IMHO, Smith isn't even close to the talent level of Williams. Yes, Smith has played more obviously, at first due to the injuries Williams has suffered, but now I really can't figure out why Williams isn't getting the chance to suit up.
Just because Smith has played more doesn't mean he's a better back.
I really hope Williams gets a shot this season... If for no other reason than to determine if he'll have any trade value... Icing him accomplishes nothing, and since Smith accomplishes nothing being suited up, it seems to me Williams should be getting a shot to play a few snaps on Sunday...


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[gmabel830]

IMHO, Smith isn't even close to the talent level of Williams. Yes, Smith has played more obviously, at first due to the injuries Williams has suffered, but now I really can't figure out why Williams isn't getting the chance to suit up.
Just because Smith has played more doesn't mean he's a better back.
I really hope Williams gets a shot this season... If for no other reason than to determine if he'll have any trade value... Icing him accomplishes nothing, and since Smith accomplishes nothing being suited up, it seems to me Williams should be getting a shot to play a few snaps on Sunday...


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Coaches like Smith for his pass blocking though.


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