Sad observation

[Skkorpion]

Did you notice how many Chiefs fans there were at the game on Sunday? Several thousand or more and they made a lot of noise.

Conversely, the Cards fans were no where near as loud as they were against the Rams.

Sadly, many of the new bandwagon fans have jumped ship already. The Bears game will be even worse. Too many Chicagoans have moved here and will be out in force at the game on Monday night.

I'm very discouraged.

 

[Shane]

Did you notice how many Chiefs fans there were at the game on Sunday? Several thousand or more and they made a lot of noise.

Conversely, the Cards fans were no where near as loud as they were against the Rams.

Sadly, many of the new bandwagon fans have jumped ship already. The Bears game will be even worse. Too many Chicagoans have moved here and will be out in force at the game on Monday night.

I'm very discouraged.

I pretty much guarantee that the Dome will be at least 50% Bears fans this monday. PATHETIC REALLY! 32,000 screamng Bears fans. Should be lots of fun. CANT WAIT!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Just wait until next year.

 

[Shane]

Just wait until next year.

 

[Ryanwb]

The reality of this is the season ticket prices were such that the opposing fans could justify the cost of the tickets to see their team. There were Steelers fans who bought season tickets to see them in the PRESEASON!

 

[Shane]

The reality of this is the season ticket prices were such that the opposing fans could justify the cost of the tickets to see their team. There were Steelers fans who bought season tickets to see them in the PRESEASON!

Then they were idiots. You could get those Pre-season tickets for relatively cheap on ebay. So for 2 tickets at the 25.00 price they were paying 500.00 to see a meaningless pre-season game. When they could have spent about 100.00 total to see it instead.

 

[RedViper]

Even if we were winning there is very little chance a game like this wouldn't have many many Bears fans. When we are losing as miserably as ever, its always going to be a tidal wave of the other teams fans. Its just bound to happen.

The one thing that may hold up for a year or so is the sold out stadium, if they don't raise prices and people are able to continually make such a huge windfall profit on selling seats to the enemy. The current owners aren't likely to give up those seats. Its a shameful thing to do to sell to the enemy, but it beats the hell out of the situation where we aren't sold out, we've got thousands of cheap and available tickets, just waiting for any fairweathered loser to walk up to the window. I've got to think, the current situation where bears fans are seeing ten dollar seats on sale on stubhub for $250 a piece is keeping some of the Cardinals haters away. And I think, at least at the prices of this year, you'd almost be a complete fool not to buy seats for next year if you have them now.

 

[Scott MS]

Is it the fans fault or the team's fault? Probably the team's fault.

My 8th year and I've been so turned off the past couple of games that I am actually sort of dreading going to the Bears game.

It's sad when you know that the tailgating will be the best part of it . . .

 

[Shane]

I've got to think, the current situation where bears fans are seeing ten dollar seats on sale on stubhub for $250 a piece is keeping some of the Cardinals haters away.

Unfortunatley its not. While it may be inevitable to have many Bears fans. IF this team was 3-2 like it should be there wouldnt benear as many as your going to see this Monday. Gonna be lovely seeing and hearing "OUR NEST" being dominated by Bears fans on Monday nights national stage!

 

[MadCardDisease]

Did you notice how many Chiefs fans there were at the game on Sunday? Several thousand or more and they made a lot of noise.

Conversely, the Cards fans were no where near as loud as they were against the Rams.

Sadly, many of the new bandwagon fans have jumped ship already. The Bears game will be even worse. Too many Chicagoans have moved here and will be out in force at the game on Monday night.

I'm very discouraged.

Yeah I was kind of shocked.

At the end of the national anthem there was that loud "and the home of the CHIEFS!" I was like where did all these people come from.

I was so excited to throw this game back in their face but yet again the Cards let me down.

 

[NMCard]

At least the Bidwills can make tons of money without ever having to put a winning product on the field. Kudos to them.

 

[ajcardfan]

It won't be as bad as it would be if we were still at SDS. But, yeah, there will be a very large amount of Bears fans there. But, you know, that's just how it is with this team. I go anyhow. I actually feel kind of stupid for going this Monday when I could buy next year's tickets from one game. But, I can't help myself. I have to be there.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Did you notice how many Chiefs fans there were at the game on Sunday? Several thousand or more and they made a lot of noise.

Conversely, the Cards fans were no where near as loud as they were against the Rams.

Sadly, many of the new bandwagon fans have jumped ship already. The Bears game will be even worse. Too many Chicagoans have moved here and will be out in force at the game on Monday night.

I'm very discouraged.

it's no one's fault except the Cardinals.

 

[Wild Card]

it's no one's fault except the Cardinals.

CB:

Everyone knew that the new stadium only bought the Cardinals a window of opportunity in the Phoenix market. It's not surprising that some new season-ticket holders are cashing in their chips--or at least hedging their investment by selling their tickets to more-desirable games--with the Cards at 1-4.

I don't disagree with Skkorp that it's a sad result, though. The 49ers game gave a glimpse of what could've been.

WC

 

[RedViper]

It won't be as bad as it would be if we were still at SDS. But, yeah, there will be a very large amount of Bears fans there. But, you know, that's just how it is with this team. I go anyhow. I actually feel kind of stupid for going this Monday when I could buy next year's tickets from one game. But, I can't help myself. I have to be there.

Agreed. In SDS you would routinely see groups of 100-500 or more clustered fans of the other team. Its not a situation where like in SDS you can sit wherever you want and make your own Chicago Bears section. Yes it will be pathetic but until we get back to the half empty stadium situation it won't be anything like it was.

 

[Duckjake]

CB:

Everyone knew that the new stadium only bought the Cardinals a window of opportunity in the Phoenix market. It's not surprising that some new season-ticket holders are cashing in their chips--or at least hedging their investment by selling their tickets to more-desirable games--with the Cards at 1-4.

I don't disagree with Skkorp that it's a sad result, though. The 49ers game gave a glimpse of what could've been.

WC

I told people beforehand that the Rams game was the most critical game of the season for this very reason. Blowing that game hurt big time.

But I still don't see how the enemy is getting their hands on thousands and maybe even tens of thousands of tickets.

Knowing where the Chiefs fans were sitting would help explain it. Were they mostly in the upper level?

FYI: Somebody has 18 seats in sec 402 for sale and another listing has 14 seats in sec 129 on stub hub.

 

[Red Dawn]

I noticed alot of Chiefs fans in the lower bowl on the visitors side behind the Chiefs bench.

 

[Duckjake]

I noticed alot of Chiefs fans in the lower bowl on the visitors side behind the Chiefs bench.

So much for prime seats going to long time season ticket holders. Unless a lot of Kansas City fans have had season tickets since the mid ninties.

 

[az jam]

I'm in Club on the visitors side and noticed that many Chief fans were in the first level (field) visitor side between the 20's in probably the first 20 to 25 rows. The question I have is : (1) are these Card fans already selling their seats, (2) are they Chief fans living in the valley that bought season tickets or (3) did they Cards sell close to 8,000 season tickets to ticket broklers which means theis will happen every game.


Anyone have any idea on this??? If its #3 and I think it is its very frustrating!!

 

[Shane]

I'm in Club on the visitors side and noticed that many Chief fans were in the first level (field) visitor side between the 20's in probably the first 20 to 25 rows. The question I have is : (1) are these Card fans already selling their seats, (2) are they Chief fans living in the valley that bought season tickets or (3) did they Card sell close to 8,000 season tickets to ticket broklers which means theis will happen every game.


Anyone have any idea on this??? If its #3 and I think it is its very frustrating!!

Its a mixture of #1 and #3 probably about 50/50 I guess.

 

[jw7]

Yeah, I agree with Shane, it is going to be at least 50% Bears fans if not more.

The Chiefs invasion was not as visible since they wear red jerseys as well (even though their fans could definately be heard). With the Bears game, it is going to be a sea of dark colored jerseys.

Throw in the fact that tickets are going for 5x-10x face value + the amount of Chicago transplants here + the fact it is on a workday and East Valley fans are going to have to take at least 1/2 day vacation to make it + the Bears incredible start this year = we are going to be overrun with opposing fans.

 

[Duckjake]

I'm in Club on the visitors side and noticed that many Chief fans were in the first level (field) visitor side between the 20's in probably the first 20 to 25 rows. The question I have is : (1) are these Card fans already selling their seats, (2) are they Chief fans living in the valley that bought season tickets or (3) did they Cards sell close to 8,000 season tickets to ticket broklers which means theis will happen every game.


Anyone have any idea on this??? If its #3 and I think it is its very frustrating!!

It's #3 I'd bet. To get those seats you had to have at least 5 or maybe 10 years on the priority list. I doubt that there were that many long term fans who would sell their seats and I doubt that many KC fans have had tickets that long.

But not just ticket brokers. What my grassy knoll theory is that the Cards sold hundreds and maybe 1000s of prime tickets to advertisers. Those businesses then give the tickets to employees,clients,friends. Usually those tix go to people who the company knows are fans of the team playing the Cards that week because that is who hits them up for them.

Of course there were brokers who had a bunch of prime seats on the east side at sds for a long time and I'm sure they bought as many seats as possible.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Did you notice how many Chiefs fans there were at the game on Sunday? Several thousand or more and they made a lot of noise.

Conversely, the Cards fans were no where near as loud as they were against the Rams.

Sadly, many of the new bandwagon fans have jumped ship already. The Bears game will be even worse. Too many Chicagoans have moved here and will be out in force at the game on Monday night.

I'm very discouraged.

You should be, we ALL should be. Worst of all the team should be...but they are not.

 

[AZ Shocker]

My estimate was there was at least 5,000 (maybe even close to 10,000) Chief fans there, and Chief fans know how to make noise. All those years in Arrowhead with good to decent teams has given them excellent practice.

I have to say though that it was a lot better than last time KC came through town. That last time...there had to be 25,000-30,000 Chief fans at Sun Devil. It was insane.

So perhaps the new stadium won't be half full of Bears fans. Maybe only like 25%. Hopefully...

For the record...I sold my Monday Night Bears tickets to Cardinals fans. I'm an eastsider, and there's no way we could take the day off to get over there.

 

[pinnacle]

I sit behind the visitors bench...35 yard line or so. I did this because I used to sit in Loge at SDS and wanted to move closer to the field...and I have been a season ticket holder for a long time...so the best seats available when I went to pick were behind visitors bench.

I think what happened is that there alot of ticket brokers who owned season tickets for a number of years....For about 30% the seats in my immediate area - the fans have been different for each game....no repeat fans...so they are obviously buying them from a broker..or something. why?

1. ticket brokers at SDS probably liked these seats because their target market was fans of other teams....and their was alot available behind the visitors bench..good fit.

2. These seats were in the sun at SDS..so anyone sitting in the seats would want the other side...but the fans of other teams who went to one game - they did not care as they were only in attendance for one game a year. For true cardinals fans who went to everygame..most of us probably wanted seats in the shade behind the Cardinals bench.

I thought when I purchased the tickets that it would be all Cardinals fans...as I think quite a few people like me moved to this area...but I failed to factor in that alot of the long time season ticket holders may in fact be brokers...which was financially a losing proposition most years...but they probably made out very well this year..