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Not to minimize the importance of this thread... but, does it really matter who Ariens names as the starter? I mean, seriously... it's not like we have the next Russell Wilson on our depth chart. Seems to me that no matter if it's Stanton or Hoyer, the result will be the same...
 

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read it earlier. Took it as he will name a starter but because its before camp, that person could lose their job. Unless we draft a stud, stanton is our starter this year.
 

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I am fairly confident that whoever is named the starter will fare better than anyone since Warner retired, I just have that much more confidence in BA in handling the position over Whiz, including his approach in naming the starter.
 

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They say knowing is half the battle...Go Joe!!!!!!!! And I buying anymore Cardinal QB jersies, no friggin way yo. This year I am going to make a custom QB shirt, it will have poop on it.
 

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Not to minimize the importance of this thread... but, does it really matter who Ariens names as the starter? I mean, seriously... it's not like we have the next Russell Wilson on our depth chart. Seems to me that no matter if it's Stanton or Hoyer, the result will be the same...

Better than no one knowing anything until the day before week 1 like Whiz liked to do. Name a starter going in to camp and give him all the first string reps thus giving him the best chance to succeed. Another important factor is how short of a leash that guy will get as well.

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I'm sure Stanton is going to be the starter but BA probably wants to see them all throw live before calling it
 

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Better than no one knowing anything until the day before week 1 like Whiz liked to do. Name a starter going in to camp and give him all the first string reps thus giving him the best chance to succeed. Another important factor is how short of a leash that guy will get as well.

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Amen to that-----This was definitely NOT one of Whiz' strong points, giving all the reps to his named starter, only to jettison him at the end of camp or a couple of weeks into the new season. Not exactly the greatest way to develop confidence and trust in a young player newly on the roster.

I am sure that BA will still give them a chance to get 'on the grass' so that he can see who manages the huddle and who doesn't, but he will not waffle in making the decision, nor in supporting his selection. Good points CSD.
 

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After he names Stanton the starter it will be easy to stay with him through the losses, the whole "new team new staff" will gel quite well and justify the record we will tout. But I won't pout, I know what it's all about. With the tank and the clout we will have to do without, that's the route no doubt. Suck for Luck and Im out.
 

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They say knowing is half the battle...Go Joe!!!!!!!! And I buying anymore Cardinal QB jersies, no friggin way yo. This year I am going to make a custom QB shirt, it will have poop on it.

We're all going to be proud to know the guy who has Poop on the back of his shirt.

(That's enough to get me to a game just to tailgate with Poop.)
 

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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/94718/no-qb-drama-cards-to-name-starter-early

I'm surprised this hasn't been linked to already.

Interesting stuff. Looks like DD will be able to buy his new jersey in late July instead of waiting all the way until September.

Personally I like the idea of naming your starting QB early. Obviously some coaches do not. Most of the best teams there is no question as they could name there starter the day after the season ends. Our team would be easier to name a starter for than most as you are going to name Hoyer or Stanton. My coice would be Stanton. That does not mean he will start the season at the QB. The problem could come when you have two very good QBs like SF did last year. The coach went with his proven starter but soon switched to his rookie.
 

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Personally I like the idea of naming your starting QB early. Obviously some coaches do not. Most of the best teams there is no question as they could name there starter the day after the season ends. Our team would be easier to name a starter for than most as you are going to name Hoyer or Stanton. My coice would be Stanton. That does not mean he will start the season at the QB. The problem could come when you have two very good QBs like SF did last year. The coach went with his proven starter but soon switched to his rookie.

I think what he was getting at is that if it's appropriate to change, you change, and he'll know when to change.

You see Whiz didn't know, so he had 'competition'. A good QB evaluator should know right away what he's got after limited field and film study. Then, if it's obvious, not to be afraid to make a change.

But by selecting someone, you give that person a chance, mentally and everything that comes with being starter (gameplan, practice reps, etc) to succeed.

Whiz always held competition because he flat out didn't really know imo. It was obvious that Warner should have started, but they kept putting the Captain back in. Literally only 2009 Warner didn't and we as fans didn't have a QB competition. While we all know Skelton is limited, had he been given the reigns early on under Whiz in an Arians style regime, he would have fared better. Not enough to keep the job, but probably enough for a few more wins imo.

Competition is good, but it comes at a cost. The most important thing is to know what you have at QB because you can evaluate it. Then if something changes, you notice it, and can see if it's a temporary funk or something else. Then you make the change. Or not. Depending on who is behind them and what you feel about them.

Also a guy shouldn't need competition to motivate himself to be better. Yet competition does indeed no matter what cut down on whoever starter's preparation compared to starting QB's who get full (or nearly full) reps.

I think we have a coach that knows these things. Some coaches stick with a sub par QB when something better is available because either are hard headed or simply don't know. Some coaches hold competitions every year because THEY don't know and will go back and forth like QB's are a remote control during commercials.

Then there are guys that at this point Arians seems to be, and that he realizes what he has or doesn't have, and will either make changes or realize that the guys behind them sucks just as bad and might as well stick with the guy that sucks the least. But he's identified who the best guy is, and unless someone on the field makes him change his mind in some way, that guy is the starter and is going to get the backing and reps that come with it because that's the best way to go.

I also think that's what Arians meant where "if you don't know, you really got problems."

Something like that.
 
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It always bothered me that Whiz would not name the starting QB untill just before the season started. It was like he didn't know how to evaluate the position. You watch them in practice and on film and pick the best. All the lingering just undermined his own credibility IMO.
 

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It always bothered me that Whiz would not name the starting QB untill just before the season started. It was like he didn't know how to evaluate the position. You watch them in practice and on film and pick the best. All the lingering just undermined his own credibility IMO.

I still wish we had Whis to be honest but he had some issues in the off season. The QB evaluation was just one issue but there are others--like running Beanie into the dirt during preseason games behind backup lineman. Which makes little sense to me since he had the guys riding segwey's during camp and took them bowling and to the movies and so forth. Talk about soft. But I think if he didn't like you (Leinart and Beanie for example) or if you got in his doghouse you were just screwed, there was no way out of the doghouse once there. I believe this is why the team basically fell apart after only a few years. He was able to lead Denny's men but not his own (except Matty, who he never wanted any part of).

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