When you hear Gambo say something, he just sounds stupid. When reading an article you don't hear the chortling voice of Gambo making you think "this could be bologna."
Sarver undermining Kerr?
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When you hear Gambo say something, he just sounds stupid. When reading an article you don't hear the chortling voice of Gambo making you think "this could be bologna."
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Man this is bad, I am starting to get that cold feeling that we are going to get almost nothing but salary cap relief from this, probably not even any first round draft picks. This is going to be bad..
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The Suns aren't going anywhere.
Even if you offer a new arena, all the potential cities sans Seattle, are about 1/4th our size. In 10 years, change that to 1/6th, in 25 1/8th.
The Arena is 16 years old roughly, and has been remodeled I believe a couple of times now, with one of them (the most recent) being a major remodeling of the front to make it look very modern and new. It's a great building, and has none of the problems Key Arena did in Seattle.
The arena we have is good for at least another 20 years, with another remodeling job, you might be able to say another 30-35 years. Even then, there would have to be a good reason to build another one, one that I could see possibly MAY arise by then, but still doubt.
I guess you could say there could be another instance of something drastically altering and increasing a team's profitability by some new addition to a stadium like the explosion in suites that started to occur in the 80-90's (leaving those without at a serious disadvantage, especially pre-salary cap). But I don't see what there could be that would give such an impact.
Owners willing to pony up for the luxury tax like Cuban seem to create a bigger disadvantage then any improvement on a stadium that could make.
The next big money maker seems to be PSL for seats, but that can be done in the oldest of stadiums.
Even if there was one, it wouldn't be a big deal. Why? Because just about every team in basketball, baseball, football has had a new stadium constructed since that time 80's-90's. So it would take a flood of new stadiums to alter the income structure to such a degree to give us a serious disadvantage. I cannot see 20 new NBA stadiums being built in the next 20 years.
Not to mention as time goes on, it appears the push back for public funding on such projects is always increasing, meaning probably 5 new NBA stadiums in the next 20 years.
Given the current financial climate, and knowing it could have lasting effects for the next decade or so, leads to even less chance a stadium will be built.
I can't judge Seattle fans, since I never lived there. But Suns fans are amongst the best in the league. Have been for a long, long time. But if that whole 'boo the thunder' thing works out pretty well, even if to some it looks petty, what we should take from it is that they had a good base of fans that put 'atic' in fanatic.
Besides if you look at Seattle, it's a clear outlier. The owner, from OKC, bought a team that was in trouble with it's arena...showcasing it's hand...literally probably attracting the guy from OKC to buy the team with the sole intention of being a rich guy and wanting to put a team in his city.
There aren't many owners or situations like that floating around. OKC is lucky to find themselves where they are. They got LUCKY. One may even say if there was no Katrina, there would be no Thunder.
As for Sarver....geez looks like $arver just realized how bad he screwed up. Looks like he is panicking to me. Another amateur move by $arver. But, realization of a problem is the beginning of solving it. If I compare his ownership experience and compare it to someone in high school, he might have just finished his freshman year. Woo hoo. Now let the upperclassmen handle it, (not Kerr) and get out of the way.
Even if you offer a new arena, all the potential cities sans Seattle, are about 1/4th our size. In 10 years, change that to 1/6th, in 25 1/8th.
The Arena is 16 years old roughly, and has been remodeled I believe a couple of times now, with one of them (the most recent) being a major remodeling of the front to make it look very modern and new. It's a great building, and has none of the problems Key Arena did in Seattle.
The arena we have is good for at least another 20 years, with another remodeling job, you might be able to say another 30-35 years. Even then, there would have to be a good reason to build another one, one that I could see possibly MAY arise by then, but still doubt.
I guess you could say there could be another instance of something drastically altering and increasing a team's profitability by some new addition to a stadium like the explosion in suites that started to occur in the 80-90's (leaving those without at a serious disadvantage, especially pre-salary cap). But I don't see what there could be that would give such an impact.
Owners willing to pony up for the luxury tax like Cuban seem to create a bigger disadvantage then any improvement on a stadium that could make.
The next big money maker seems to be PSL for seats, but that can be done in the oldest of stadiums.
Even if there was one, it wouldn't be a big deal. Why? Because just about every team in basketball, baseball, football has had a new stadium constructed since that time 80's-90's. So it would take a flood of new stadiums to alter the income structure to such a degree to give us a serious disadvantage. I cannot see 20 new NBA stadiums being built in the next 20 years.
Not to mention as time goes on, it appears the push back for public funding on such projects is always increasing, meaning probably 5 new NBA stadiums in the next 20 years.
Given the current financial climate, and knowing it could have lasting effects for the next decade or so, leads to even less chance a stadium will be built.
I can't judge Seattle fans, since I never lived there. But Suns fans are amongst the best in the league. Have been for a long, long time. But if that whole 'boo the thunder' thing works out pretty well, even if to some it looks petty, what we should take from it is that they had a good base of fans that put 'atic' in fanatic.
Besides if you look at Seattle, it's a clear outlier. The owner, from OKC, bought a team that was in trouble with it's arena...showcasing it's hand...literally probably attracting the guy from OKC to buy the team with the sole intention of being a rich guy and wanting to put a team in his city.
There aren't many owners or situations like that floating around. OKC is lucky to find themselves where they are. They got LUCKY. One may even say if there was no Katrina, there would be no Thunder.
As for Sarver....geez looks like $arver just realized how bad he screwed up. Looks like he is panicking to me. Another amateur move by $arver. But, realization of a problem is the beginning of solving it. If I compare his ownership experience and compare it to someone in high school, he might have just finished his freshman year. Woo hoo. Now let the upperclassmen handle it, (not Kerr) and get out of the way.
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ThunderCard
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Born and raised in Phoenix I was a huge Suns and Cards fan. This is just getting to be too much though. Sarver is destroying a great franchise with his penny pinching ways. Watching them gut this team and the draft picks in the name of cash is tiring. Another part I really do not understand is the draft picks. Why do we keep selling them when the talent is cheap for 4 years, especially how the Suns have hit on there drafts ??
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JC would come swooping in to save the day like an Angel on our shoulders before the franchise was ever moved.
To tack on to what CardsFan88 said, now that Jobing.com arena is in existance, it would let the Suns temporarily move there in say 20 years if USAC needs to be demolished and a new arena built on the same site (its a damn good site), so that would be good,
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