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Here's a look at some of the questions regarding the offense heading into this weekend's minicamp:

1. #3 QB. Will Toby Korrodi challenge Shane Boyd? It should be very interesting to see how Korrodi's arm strength and accuracy will measure up on the pro level. Boyd is such a good athlete and he knows Whiz's system, which will not only help his own cause, but he can be very helpful in assisting Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner as they try to become more familiar with the new system.

2. TE and FB. Whiz's system will bring a Renaissance to the TE and FB positions. At TE, Leonard Pope and Ben Patrick should become the prime targets in the passing game. The question is who will win the #3 TE job, the bruising John Bronson or the versatile Troy Bienneman?

The competition at FB should one of the most interesting ones throughout the summer and pre-season. Certainly, Terrelle Smith, by virtue of his experience and past success is the odds-on favorite to be the starter. But, what happens if one or two of the three string rookies (Castille, Snow, Vercher) shows as much talent as Smith?

Also...what will happen with pass catching FB Obafemi Ayanbadejo? And what about special teams dynamo A.J. Schable? If you saw the re-run of the MNF game versus the Bears, Schable was outstanding in that game. That kid is a gamer and should not be overlooked.

3. The O-Line Shuffle. The fun won't really begin until the pads come on. But this weekend, it will be interesting to see how comfortable Levi Brown is at right tackle. In my opinion, if the transition to the right side is an awkward one, and the coaches will be able to see how well Brown's feet are adjusting to the move---which is the key factor--I think Brown should be returned to left tackle for good.

It will also be interesting to see what kind of shape Oliver Ross, Mike Gandy, Brandon Gorin and Quasim Mitchell are in...and what kind of footwork they can display at this time. My hunch is that UCFA Elliot Vallejo will make a very positive impression on the coaches throughout the minicamp. This kid has the kind of feet one looks for in a tackle and if he improves his strength he really could be the future bookend opposite Levi Brown.

At guard the biggest question mark is Reggie Wells. Watching how much he struggled at guard in the MNF Bears' game, it makes one wonder whether he will ever be able to hold his own there. Milford Brown is noticeably more rugged and powerful at the point of attack. On the other side, Deuce Lutui is a mainstay. The major question, depth-wise is what kind of effort Elton Brown will bring to the unit. My hunch is that LSU guard Brian Johnson might be a sleeper here, although I am also intrigued with Gs Lyle Sendlein and T.J. Dowling.

4. What about G Alan Faneca? The Steelers are playing hardball with him and they can't be pleased with the distraction and concern Faneca is causing for new head coach Mike Tomlin, as Tmlin tries to set a positive tone for the organization after an off-season of turmoil in Pittsburgh.

The question is can and should the Cardinals make a concerted effort to acquire Faneca now?...or should the Cardinals wait until next year when Faneca becomes a free agent?

My feeling is that if the Cardinals can trade let's say Reggie Wells or Milford Brown and a 6th round draft pick for Faneca right now, they should do it. I would be fine with trading their 4th round pick for Faneca straight up.

I feel a sense of urgency here. Adding Faneca would do wonders for the prospects of running the football AND changing the attitude along the offensive line. Faneca is a fiery player and a first-rate competitor.

Adding Faneca would, most importantly, improve the Cardinals' chances of winning right away...which would be the BEST thing that could happen to the organization and the new coaching staff. If the new staff has to suffer through another disappointing season in its inaugural season, everyone associated with the organization, especially the players and the fans will have to continue to wonder if the annual stigma of losers will ever be lifted. The only panacea for this situation is winning...not playing close games or being competitive or putting up good numbers in a losing cause.

Winning right away would completely change the atmosphere within the organization.

5. At center the battle of the summer begins for high paid UFA C Al Johnson and the classic underdog who plays his tail off and never discourages, C Nick Leckey.

6. It should be very interesting to see who wins the last WR spot...it would appear that the Cardinals will have to keep six WRs this year because of Sean Morey, who will focus primarily on special teams. Steve Breaston should be the punt returner. Therefore, the remaining roster spot at WR will be up for grabs amongst the following contenders: LeRon McCoy, Michael Spurlock, Todd Watkins, Evan Prall, Ahmad Merritt, Matt Trannon and Greg Lee.

McCoy is the most well-rounded and has the ability to become a #2 WR at some point in his career, but has injury concerns. Spurlock is extremely nifty out of the slot and has promising return abilities. Watkins is the fastest and best deep threat. The others need to turn some heads to find themselves in the mix.

7. At RB...the main question is how determined J.J. Arrington is to make a splash this year. Arrington is blessed with talent and now knows the ropes. I think he is going to be a very pleasant surprise this year and will make believers out of the coaches, fellow players and fans. He's the speed back the Cardinals need and now with John Lott in his corner, the toughness issue will be history.
 
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1. #3 QB. Will Toby Korrodi challenge Shane Boyd? It should be very interesting to see how Korrodi's arm strength and accuracy will measure up on the pro level. Boyd is such a good athlete and he knows Whiz's system, which will not only help his own cause, but he can be very helpful in assisting Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner as they try to become more familiar with the new system.

Good point on Boyd. There was an article about him helping Matt and Kurt at the last mini camp with the terminology and the playbook during the last mini camp. He should be very valuble during this offseason process for them. Also dont forget that Korrodi is a lefty, and might give him an extra advantage over Boyd.

The competition at FB should one of the most interesting ones throughout the summer and pre-season. Certainly, Terrelle Smith, by virtue of his experience and past success is the odds-on favorite to be the starter. But, what happens if one or two of the three string rookies (Castille, Snow, Vercher) shows as much talent as Smith?

Also...what will happen with pass catching FB Obafemi Ayanbadejo? And what about special teams dynamo A.J. Schable? If you saw the re-run of the MNF game versus the Bears, Schable was outstanding in that game. That kid is a gamer and should not be overlooked.

Oddly enough the FB spot could be the most hotly contested. I think the writting is on the wall for Femi after signing 3 UDFA FB's. You have to be a good blocker or you are not in Wiz plans as a FB. OF the 3 UDFA FB's I think the one that can actually run the ball in short yardage situations will have the leg up on the others. I forget which one was also a bruising back as well, I know it was one of the 3 after reading their bio's.

4. What about G Alan Faneca? The Steelers are playing hardball with him and they can't be pleased with the distraction and concern Faneca is causing for new head coach Mike Tomlin, as Tmlin tries to set a positive tone for the organization after an off-season of turmoil in Pittsburgh.

The question is can and should the Cardinals make a concerted effort to acquire Faneca now?...or should the Cardinals wait until next year when Faneca becomes a free agent?

I asked this in another thread, Are you willing or do you think the Cards are willing to shell out a hefty contract extension for Faneca? Keeping in mind what Dockery, Davis, and Stienbach got paid to play OG. Now if you can answer yes to that, now find 5 Mill minimum of cap space of players to cut to get Faneca under budget. I think you would be hard pressed in doing so and would ruin the depth that Wiz preached and worked so hard for. We dont even have enough to take on Faneca's base salary if not given a contract extension.

Unless Faneca is willing to give a huge discount to Wiz/Grimm, this just isnt a feasible idea until next offseason. Faneca and Starks will be UFA and they may be the reason why we pushed cap space into this year with the roster bonuses, and why Gandy only got a 1 year prove it deal. Plus there isnt even a single indication that we are even looking at him. Graves and Wiz both stated that they never called Pitt and Pitt never called them at all leading up to the draft or during the draft. I just dont see what could have changed from then to now especially financially.
 

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Unless Faneca is willing to give a huge discount to Wiz/Grimm, this just isnt a feasible idea until next offseason. Faneca and Starks will be UFA and they may be the reason why we pushed cap space into this year with the roster bonuses, and why Gandy only got a 1 year prove it deal. Plus there isnt even a single indication that we are even looking at him. Graves and Wiz both stated that they never called Pitt and Pitt never called them at all leading up to the draft or during the draft. I just dont see what could have changed from then to now especially financially.
Wow I forgot about that. Imagine 2008's starting line

LT L. Brown
LG Lutui
C Johnson
RG Fanaca
RT Starks

Holy crap would that be awesome. Now what if God forbid we suffer through another 4-12 season and get a shot at McFadden next year with Edge backing him up and both running behind that line that would be sick!
 

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7. At RB...the main question is how determined J.J. Arrington is to make a splash this year. Arrington is blessed with talent and now knows the ropes. I think he is going to be a very pleasant surprise this year and will make believers out of the coaches, fellow players and fans. He's the speed back the Cardinals need and now with John Lott in his corner, the toughness issue will be history.

We need JJ to step up and make a big contribution this year.
 

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Want cap space for Faneca......let Shipp; Obefemi; Player and M. Brown go.

Blaylock and JJ can get it done at RB.....Smith at FB......whoever is in camp as the extra K, and Wells, Ross, E.Brown as back up at LG behind Faneca.
 

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Mitch, I Hope You're Right

But your assumption that so many un-drafted players will be successful is a stretch, IMO. Also, can't see Pitt letting Fanaca go, and while it would be nice, it's almost certainly not going to happen. You're right on (IMO) about the WR's, and the sixth one, barring injury, is probably between McCoy and Spurlock.
 

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Want cap space for Faneca......let Shipp; Obefemi; Player and M. Brown go.

Blaylock and JJ can get it done at RB.....Smith at FB......whoever is in camp as the extra K, and Wells, Ross, E.Brown as back up at LG behind Faneca.
Cut Ross & Wells before I cut M.Brown.
 

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Want cap space for Faneca......let Shipp; Obefemi; Player and M. Brown go.

Blaylock and JJ can get it done at RB.....Smith at FB......whoever is in camp as the extra K, and Wells, Ross, E.Brown as back up at LG behind Faneca.

That would give you a bout 2 Mill dollars after pro rating the signing bonuses all into this year, remember Ship is in the first year of his brand new deal. So you still need to make another 3 Mill. of cap space even though you have already made the depth worse by going with an unproven UDFA RB, UDFA P, 4th round guard who hasnt shown even the heart to be in the league, and another RB who hasnt proven anything in 2 years. And UDFA FA and a nonproven RB in a Wiz system that will run the ball more then Edge can handle just isnt a good idea IMO.

Find another 3 Mill. to get a Faneca deal under the cap without making the depth even worse. It isnt as easy as you would think but I have tried myself to see if we could make it work because I want it to work, but have failed every time without sacrificing the depth of the team. The only way to do it is to ask the UFA's we signed this year to turn their roster bonuses into signing bonuses so we can lower their cap costs this year but have to push their cap into future years. I am not sure the Cards will want to do that or they wouldnt have tried so hard to give out roster bonuses this year.
 
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We don't need another player looking for a retirement contract. Faneca is a truly superior guard but we need so many other positions improved as well, he'd turn out to be an expensive luxury better avoided.

If he'd take a three or four year contract, I'd consider doing it.
 

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From Urbans Blog yesterday.

May 11, 2007
The Faneca situation
Darren Urban
Steelers guard Alan Faneca went public today with what everyone knew for a while: That he will bail on Pittsburgh when he becomes a free agent at the end of the season, and that he has been hoping for a trade.

"This will be my last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler," he said at Friday's minicamp.

Does that mean Faneca comes to Arizona next season? Well, maybe. Obviously he would probably like to reunite with coach Ken Whisenhunt and offensive line coach Russ Grimm.

But keep some things in mind. What if Grimm leaves after the season and gets a head coaching job somewhere else? Faneca is closer to Grimm than Whisenhunt. The Cardinals would have to be willing to pay big money to a 31-year-old guard, never a sure thing.

And finally, Whisenhunt has sounded pretty set with his middle of the offensive line, with Al Johnson at center and Reggie Wells and Deuce Lutui at guards. For the price it would take, Faneca may not fit into the Cards' plans -- especially if Whisenhunt and Grimm turn the line into consistent producers this season.
 

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My feeling is that if the Cardinals can trade let's say Reggie Wells or Milford Brown and a 6th round draft pick for Faneca right now, they should do it. I would be fine with trading their 4th round pick for Faneca straight up.
I guess the key here is to make sure we can be creative enough to get under the cap if we aquire him ...

At RB...the main question is how determined J.J. Arrington is to make a splash this year. Arrington is blessed with talent and now knows the ropes. I think he is going to be a very pleasant surprise this year and will make believers out of the coaches, fellow players and fans.
I don't see it happening .. JJ "tiptoe" Arrington would have to grow a set and run with a purpose to earn a spot and he is too timid of a runner to do that ... I believe that he has never gotten over the hit by Roy Williams ...
 

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How many "thoughts" are you going to have?
 

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While Faneca would be great to have here, I doubt it will happen. We're pretty solid at guard, so the likelyhood of us spending a lot of $ on an older Pro-Bowl guard is small.

Starks is however very likely to end up here IMO. He's younger, cheaper and a tackle.
 

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While I think he has done a pretty good job for the Cardinals, I don't think that Obafemi Ayanbadejo fits the Whiz job description for a FB. Why would we have signed a vet FA and then added three un-drafted FB's, if we thought we already had one, and just needed another one? I understand his ST play, but the team has addressed ST's and probably feel that the backup FB will be selected based, in large part, on his ST ability. AJ Schable fits the job description, IMO, but the team wants an upgrade. JMO.
 

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How much in cap room do we save by cutting JJ? [Combining the two strands of this thread.]

We wouldnt save anything, in fact we would actually lose cap space after his pro rated bonus is taken out all at once when we cut him or trade him.
 

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I honestly think all these whatever day thoughts are bordering on the point of over analyzisis..
 

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7. At RB...the main question is how determined J.J. Arrington is to make a splash this year. Arrington is blessed with talent and now knows the ropes. I think he is going to be a very pleasant surprise this year and will make believers out of the coaches, fellow players and fans. He's the speed back the Cardinals need and now with John Lott in his corner, the toughness issue will be history.


Good write up Mitch, I myself dont see this happening with JJ. Toughness in strength can be coached, Toughness in balls it something you either have or you dont.
 

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The one thing you have to ask yourself is "would I be disappointed if the cardinals traded for Faneca." My answer is no. If the cardinals made the move to get Faneca, then you know that the cardinals are trying to put a winner on the field. Anybody that doesn't want a 6 year pro-bowler on their team is fricken nuts. I would feel a whole lot better about the offensive line.
 
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