Say goodbye to Amare

[nashman]

I am not saying he doesn't know how to score just thats ALL HE CAN DO! This team needs more than that, he is no longer a franchise player you build a team around imo. He has become just a ver good scorer that could be a good #2 guy on a team, he will never be a championship teams best player. Nash is older, Shaq is older, Hill is older if you could trade Amare to bring in some GOOD young players to start rebuilding or you could snake a Bosh or Jefferson for Amare I would pull the trigger.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I am not saying he doesn't know how to score just thats ALL HE CAN DO! This team needs more than that, he is no longer a franchise player you build a team around imo. He has become just a ver good scorer that could be a good #2 guy on a team, he will never be a championship teams best player. Nash is older, Shaq is older, Hill is older if you could trade Amare to bring in some GOOD young players to start rebuilding or you could snake a Bosh or Jefferson for Amare I would pull the trigger.

So Amare is old at just over 26 and you want to trade him for a 24/23 year old??

 

[Covert Rain]

I am not saying he doesn't know how to score just thats ALL HE CAN DO! This team needs more than that, he is no longer a franchise player you build a team around imo. He has become just a ver good scorer that could be a good #2 guy on a team, he will never be a championship teams best player. Nash is older, Shaq is older, Hill is older if you could trade Amare to bring in some GOOD young players to start rebuilding or you could snake a Bosh or Jefferson for Amare I would pull the trigger.

I heard people say the same thing about Nash. Because he is just a huge liability on defense you can't build a team around him. That's crap and so is the take on Amare.

There are very few great all around players in this league that do it all. That's why you need a team that compliments each other. This is a team sport where one person can't do it all. It would be great if you could get your hands on a Lebron but it isn't going to happen.

You need players around Amare that compliment his strengths and help shore up weakness. Almost every team in the NBA has similar issues with players and try to find that mix. Saying you can't build around Amare is ridiculous.

 

[nashman]

What are you talking about DCR? Never said Amare was old, saying the team is getting older in general so if you can get some good young players for Amare I do it. This whole Amare situation is going to get worse unless he magically turns into TD overnight and starts carrying this team, which is highly unlikely. Just saying if you can do it you should. This team looks different without Amare on the floor and I think could be just as successful without him, as they have in the past. He is a headcase and the players feed into that to a certain extent, how many times do we turn the ball over forcing it to Amare to keep him happy?

 

[nashman]

I never said you can't build around Amare of course you can, just don't expect it to work. Which now that you said that I am sure thats what Kerr will do! Amare is just a head job he thinks he is WAY better than he is personally I would trade him. I see why some of you wouldn't want to but think you will come around as time goes on.

 

[nashman]

Build a team around a PG???? Thats questionable for any team.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Build a team around a PG???? Thats questionable for any team.

I'm sure Chris Paul and Deron Williams agree with you.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I heard people say the same thing about Nash. Because he is just a huge liability on defense you can't build a team around him. That's crap and so is the take on Amare.

you're really ignoring a HUGE difference though between Amare and Steve's games though. Amare is simply a scorer and that's all. Nash can be a scorer AND a distributor. Out of 4 areas on the court, Amare does ONE well. That's it. He's not even a complete player on one side of the ball like Nash is. You can't build your team around that. At least Nash could dominate and DICTATE the way an entire game is played. Amare doesn't have that ability. No purely one dimensional scorer does.

You need players around Amare that compliment his strengths and help shore up weakness. Almost every team in the NBA has similar issues with players and try to find that mix. Saying you can't build around Amare is ridiculous.

I don't think so. Amare's a number 2. He's an incredible complimentary piece who thinks he's a 1, but he's not. Using him as the centerpiece is an exercise in futility.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Build a team around a PG???? Thats questionable for any team.

I agree with you about Amare not being a franchise player, but a lot of really good/title winning teams have been built around PGs.

The 1988-90 Suns that got to the Conference Finals in back to back years were built around KJ.

The back to back Pistons were built around Isiah.

This era of the Suns were built around Nash and the Hornets and Jazz are built around Williams and CP3.

and those are just off the top of my head. Sure it's easier to build around a true franchise big man, but those guys are just as hard to find as great PGs. Basically, any you can build a team around any kind of TRUE GREATNESS but that's what it takes to have sustained success. You need guys that can dominate in more than one area.

 

[RTJ]

It makes a lot more sense to keep Amare and trade Nash. Why not send Nash and Diaw to the Knicks for Marbury and some picks? Clear some cap space and go to total rebuilding mode. This team isn't winning a title. Why deal with first-round exits for a few years instead of starting over? You get your own high pick and New York's, plus a bunch of cap space in 2010 with Diaw's contract off the books.

 

[nowagimp]

This era of the Suns were built around Nash and the Hornets and Jazz are built around Williams and CP3.

In utah, boozer, okur, and AK were there before Deron arrived in '05-'06, as I recall. Some might say they built around boozer($$$$) by drafting Deron Williams.

 

[Cheesebeef]

In utah, boozer, okur, and AK were there before Deron arrived in '05-'06, as I recall. Some might say they built around boozer($$$$) by drafting Deron Williams.

but they weren't very good without him.

i mean, you could say the same thing about the 2004-5 Suns then who had Amare, JJ and Marion. It was Nash who stirred the drink, just like it's been Williams who shot that team from out of the playoff to the WCF two years later and then gave the Lakers fits the next year in the 2nd round.

 

[rishi62]

I really dont think Amare is going to be traded. Dave Burns even said the other night that an inside source in the Suns organization said that the suns are keeping everyone and there is no trade talks. If anything kerr should be let go before amare. I should be gm.