Scouting 2014 Cardinal Draft Prospects

[Chopper0080]

Me too Chopper.

I know we won't draft him, but IMO this team needs a slot WR in this draft. It seems to me the Cards have really limited #11's big play ability & yards per catch by playing him sooooo much in the slot the last 2-3 years & I wish BA would use him more like Floyd. I think it's safe to say that Roberts is as good as gone.

I hope we draft a speed slot dude in rds 3-5, though its not a huge need or a TE

Montgomery
Brandon Coleman - Rutgers
Jarvis Landry - LSU
Robert Herron - Wyoming
Devante Parker - Louisville
Josh Huff - Oregon

...all possible options from the 3rd round on.

 

[Chopper0080]

I remember wanting the speedster from Texas last year, Goodwin. He had some big plays for Buffalo this year. He was better than Tavon Austin and that wasted Rams pick.

Hopefully, the Rams draft just as well this year.

Agreed

 

[Buckybird]

I remember wanting the speedster from Texas last year, Goodwin. He had some big plays for Buffalo this year. .

I was all over him...he was soooo under used by the Horns.

Btw I still think Austin will be a damn good player by year 3, but would tickled pink if he's not

 

[BigRedArk]

Me too Chopper.

I know we won't draft him, but IMO this team needs a slot WR in this draft. It seems to me the Cards have really limited #11's big play ability & yards per catch by playing him sooooo much in the slot the last 2-3 years & I wish BA would use him more like Floyd. I think it's safe to say that Roberts is as good as gone.

I hope we draft a speed slot dude in rds 3-5, though its not a huge need or a TE

Why is Roberts as good as gone? If his price is right why not re-sign him? You know what you have in him rather than a draft pick. Also isn't there usually a 2 year adjustment period for most Rookies WR's from College to the NFL?

 

[sundevil04]

Roberts is a decent #3, but not a deep threat like we need

 

[Chopper0080]

Why is Roberts as good as gone? If his price is right why not re-sign him? You know what you have in him rather than a draft pick. Also isn't there usually a 2 year adjustment period for most Rookies WR's from College to the NFL?

Roberts is a good player, but Arian's offense doesn't give enough snaps to the WR3 to justify spending the money that Roberts should generate on the open market. Dollars per snap should be a growing trend. easier to pay a young player 700k for 30 snaps per game rather than re-sign Roberts at 3 mil.

 

[Totally_Red]

Roberts is a good player, but Arian's offense doesn't give enough snaps to the WR3 to justify spending the money that Roberts should generate on the open market. Dollars per snap should be a growing trend. easier to pay a young player 700k for 30 snaps per game rather than re-sign Roberts at 3 mil.

I love Andre, but you just stated the 'business' reason he probably won't be back. He has more value to another NFL team than to the Cardinals and the tight-end focused B.A. offense.

 

[Cardiac]

Roberts is a good player, but Arian's offense doesn't give enough snaps to the WR3 to justify spending the money that Roberts should generate on the open market. Dollars per snap should be a growing trend. easier to pay a young player 700k for 30 snaps per game rather than re-sign Roberts at 3 mil.

Great point and fully agree. I bet that Roberts is frustrated by his lack of opportunities in BA's Offense and can't wait for FA.

Not saying anyone should be bitter, it is what it is.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Scott Crighton DE Oregon St. This 270 pounder plays like his hair is on

fire and Brandon Cooks could be the Tavon Austin of his draft

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Scott Crighton DE Oregon St. This 270 pounder plays like his hair is on

fire and Brandon Cooks could be the Tavon Austin of his draft

You mean the most over-drafted player in the draft. Pleas send his tape to St.Louis .

I really like Crichton as well.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Christian Bryant of OSU was denied another year of elgibility so he will be draft eligible. That comes a kind of surprise as it was thought he'd be granted the extra year. It will be interesting to see where he goes.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

My dream scenario is we sign OT in FA and end up with these 3 guys in first 3 rounds: Eric Ebron, Brett Hundley (gonna sky rocket up boards if he declares) and Kadeem freaking Carey. With a new LT and speedster WR later in draft/FA that becomes greatest show on turf type ish.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

My dream scenario is we sign OT in FA and end up with these 3 guys in first 3 rounds: Eric Ebron, Brett Hundley (gonna sky rocket up boards if he declares) and Kadeem freaking Carey. With a new LT and speedster WR later in draft/FA that becomes greatest show on turf type ish.

I could see the Dolphins getting Monroe and snatching Eric Ebron from

us at 19. I think if Hundley comes out the Raiders (and the ghost of Al

Davis) may pick him at 5. Just seems like a Raider kind of move.

Brandon Cooks or Odell Beckum would give the Cards a 3 headed

monster

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I could see the Dolphins getting Monroe and snatching Eric Ebron from

us at 19. I think if Hundley comes out the Raiders (and the ghost of Al

Davis) may pick him at 5. Just seems like a Raider kind of move.

Brandon Cooks or Odell Beckum would give the Cards a 3 headed

monster

You never know, but the Dolphins have a pretty good young weapon in Charles Clay that they use at TE.

I can't decide if I like Hundley or not. One time I'll watch him and think he's great, the next time I think he's garbage.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

You never know, but the Dolphins have a pretty good young weapon in Charles Clay that they use at TE.

I can't decide if I like Hundley or not. One time I'll watch him and think he's great, the next time I think he's garbage.

I cant help but think of Cam Newton when I see Hundley play. He has the

physical tools he just needs Bruce Arians to mold him into a stud.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Out of all the QB prospects I like Hundley the best. Saying that I have a huge Pac-12 bias and I love the fact he went to Chandler High. But his tools are crazy. If Keim and Arians think he is moldable then he has a huge ceiling.

Little known fact his dad was a Wildcat football alum and he grew up wanting to go to UA but Stoops didnt recruit him until much too late in the process and he went to UCLA because he felt disrespected. Frack I hate Stoops for that alone. Carey and Hundley at the same time would have been nice.

 

[Russ Smith]

Out of all the QB prospects I like Hundley the best. Saying that I have a huge Pac-12 bias and I love the fact he went to Chandler High. But his tools are crazy. If Keim and Arians think he is moldable then he has a huge ceiling.

Little known fact his dad was a Wildcat football alum and he grew up wanting to go to UA but Stoops didnt recruit him until much too late in the process and he went to UCLA because he felt disrespected. Frack I hate Stoops for that alone. Carey and Hundley at the same time would have been nice.

I still don't get the excitement over Hundley, great college QB don't think it translates to the NFL.

Be interesting to watch how he turns out I think he's one of those that'll either be really good a complete bust. Ironically many UCLA fans I know agree, most of us think he's overrated, but most of us also want him to stay in school because we know he's a terrific college QB.

 

[Buckybird]

I still don't get the excitement over Hundley.

Me either. When I watch him, I can't get the thought of I'm watching Jason Campbell out of my mind. Solid QB, journeyman, but really not a starting NFL QB long term.

 

[D-Dogg]

We can't draft anyone named HaHa. Just can't. We don't have the PR cred to pull that off without horrific headlines.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Me either. When I watch him, I can't get the thought of I'm watching Jason Campbell out of my mind. Solid QB, journeyman, but really not a starting NFL QB long term.

Hes definitely raw. But Cannon Arm. Accurate (68%) in Pro Offense. Absolute wheels. Also from what I hear smart and good leader. Also worked with Mazzone and started as a freshman so there is alot to like.

Does he need another year of development? Absolutely. Do i think he would be better getting that from Bruce Arians and behind Carson Palmer then at UCLA? Sure do. I think what sets up perfectly is you can take a high ceiling project because they dont need to start next year. We have Palmer.

Anyway if he declares he is likley not going to last to 20. His tool box too good.

 

[Russ Smith]

Hes definitely raw. But Cannon Arm. Accurate (68%) in Pro Offense. Absolute wheels. Also from what I hear smart and good leader. Also worked with Mazzone and started as a freshman so there is alot to like.

Does he need another year of development? Absolutely. Do i think he would be better getting that from Bruce Arians and behind Carson Palmer then at UCLA? Sure do. I think what sets up perfectly is you can take a high ceiling project because they dont need to start next year. We have Palmer.

Anyway if he declares he is likley not going to last to 20. His tool box too good.

He's not accurate though that's the problem. There's a difference between completing 67% in that offense and being accurate. There were lots of situations where his inaccurate throws killed UCLA.

The 2 best teams UCLA played this year were Stanford and Oregon, he had 2 TD's and 4 picks and completed 250 yards worth of passes in 58 attempts. 13-19 64 yards against Oregon.

He does have clear talent but he's one of those guys where the pass is often complete but wide left or wide right so the RAC isn't there.

I'd love to have him back but you put him on the Cards and he'd set an NFL record for sacks. He was sacked 52 times last year, and 35 more this year. Much better runner this year last year it was like he was afraid to run, they were on him all year to take off and run but he just kept taking sacks.

The main issue with him IMO is accuracy, can he be accurate enough from the pocket that he won't have to run as he gets older.

I would add, he's a GREAT kid, nothing but class won't have to worry about off field issues etc. He played a huge role in Mora turning around the football program at UCLA.

I just don't see why an NFL team would be drafting the kid all that high having watched him for 2 years now late first round on good pick even where we pick he'd probably be a good pick, but people have him going top 10 I just don't see it.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

He's not accurate though that's the problem. There's a difference between completing 67% in that offense and being accurate. There were lots of situations where his inaccurate throws killed UCLA.

The 2 best teams UCLA played this year were Stanford and Oregon, he had 2 TD's and 4 picks and completed 250 yards worth of passes in 58 attempts. 13-19 64 yards against Oregon.

He does have clear talent but he's one of those guys where the pass is often complete but wide left or wide right so the RAC isn't there.

I'd love to have him back but you put him on the Cards and he'd set an NFL record for sacks. He was sacked 52 times last year, and 35 more this year. Much better runner this year last year it was like he was afraid to run, they were on him all year to take off and run but he just kept taking sacks.

The main issue with him IMO is accuracy, can he be accurate enough from the pocket that he won't have to run as he gets older.

I would add, he's a GREAT kid, nothing but class won't have to worry about off field issues etc. He played a huge role in Mora turning around the football program at UCLA.

I just don't see why an NFL team would be drafting the kid all that high having watched him for 2 years now late first round on good pick even where we pick he'd probably be a good pick, but people have him going top 10 I just don't see it.

FWIW i like him in the 2nd round although its unlikley hell last that long.

QBs that intrigue me (other then Teddy) are Manziel, Mettenberger, Carr (specifically in Arians offense) and Hundley. Mariota and Winston are both my no brainer guys but both will be back in school next year. Winston/Mariota will be Luck/Griffin next year mark it down.

 

[cardncubfan]

Roberts is a good player, but Arian's offense doesn't give enough snaps to the WR3 to justify spending the money that Roberts should generate on the open market. Dollars per snap should be a growing trend. easier to pay a young player 700k for 30 snaps per game rather than re-sign Roberts at 3 mil.

I could see Roberts going to the Rams.

 

[Buckybird]

He's not accurate though that's the problem. There's a difference between completing 67% in that offense and being accurate. There were lots of situations where his inaccurate throws killed UCLA.

The 2 best teams UCLA played this year were Stanford and Oregon, he had 2 TD's and 4 picks and completed 250 yards worth of passes in 58 attempts. 13-19 64 yards against Oregon.

Yep

Location of passes matter, especially at the next level when coverage is better & those receivers are "less open". When I watch the location & accuracy of Hundley & Meziel...it's not even a comparison. Plus as you say, Hundley didn't play all that well against the better teams.

IMO accuracy for the most part can't be taught at the NFL level. You either have that ability or you don't!!! Doesn't matter if BA, Wiz or Norv Turner are running the show, accuracy by a QB is a god given talent.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Yep

Location of passes matter, especially at the next level when coverage is better & those receivers are "less open". When I watch the location & accuracy of Hundley & Meziel...it's not even a comparison. Plus as you say, Hundley didn't play all that well against the better teams.

IMO accuracy for the most part can't be taught at the NFL level. You either have that ability or you don't!!! Doesn't matter if BA, Wiz or Norv Turner are running the show, accuracy by a QB is a god given talent.

Footwork = accuracy.

(Footwork can and is taught)