Seahawk fans

[azpride101]

Welcome Azpride101, Hope you post alot on this Board!

oh thanks!

i'll try, but there's a lot of work to do for me this summer...

but thanks, this looks like a great board...

 

[azpride101]

By the way. it is good to see another Washington Cardinal fan on here.

oh yeah, me too...

always feels nice to be a fan living in the state/city of a division rival...

do you drive across the state to Qwest to watch the Cards play?

 

[SpokaneCardfan]

oh yeah, me too...

always feels nice to be a fan living in the state/city of a division rival...

do you drive across the state to Qwest to watch the Cards play?

I am hoping to make it there this season.

 

[Gee!]

OMG - you mean fans are being fans - wow

seahawk fans know how tough it is to even get to the playoffs after appearing in the superbowl (after all, they're the only team in like the last decade to do it)

i don't see them being dominant by any means, but I also think that rumours of their demise have been greatly exagerated and I'll just leave it at that as there is nothing that can be said or shown until the actual season starts

it will be a fun one though

Go drink your Parrot juice..

Cardinals Locos Forever!
I roll with the King everday

 

[Ryanwb]

The Seahawks are so lame they retired the number 12 for the "12th man", but apparently have to pay Texas A&M $800,000 a year to do so. They stole the idea from a college team.

LAME

 

[lauraw]

Migrating Osprey- Good Luck to the Hawks this year except against the NFC West

 

[cardsfanmd]

they have a shot, hell, even the lions have a shot. point is they are in no position to be walking around with a big head, thats what the original poster is saying.

Actually the Lions do not have a chance at the NFC West crown.



cody jamison for pres

 

[TJ]

The Seahawks are so lame they retired the number 12 for the "12th man", but apparently have to pay Texas A&M $800,000 a year to do so. They stole the idea from a college team.

LAME

Works out great for Texas A&M

 

[Buckybird]

For the fans of any team to practically guarantee a title is the height of ignorance. No one knows what next season is going to bring.

including us!!!

 

[SuperSpck]

including us!!!

True story.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

yeah - A&M showed up 20+ years after they retired the # ........ Qwest has by far the best atmosphere during the game of any stadium i've been to ..... about the only thing they don't do well is tailgating - stupid city laws

they also didn't have to pay the aggies squat - but they did enter into a licensing agreement that allows them to use their trademark at will - the settlement was around $100k and it was a one time fee, not remotely close to the # you cited - it would of cost more to litigate the thing ......... the seahawks are making a ton of cash on licensing, so it was basically peanuts for them to just go away

 

[Ryanwb]

they also didn't have to pay the aggies squat - but they did enter into a licensing agreement that allows them to use their trademark at will - the settlement was around $100k and it was a one time fee, not remotely close to the # you cited - it would of cost more to litigate the thing ......... the seahawks are making a ton of cash on licensing, so it was basically peanuts for them to just go away

I had heard the licensing agreement payed them a percentage of some sort of annual sale of some item which averaged out to $800,000 a year. It doesn't excuse the fact that the Seahawks stole the idea and passed it off as their own.

 

[Skkorpion]

Osprey, you denied last year your team would tune out Holmgren. They did and lost winnable games because of it.

This year, you have better players but your head coach is a proven loser. You deny that now. Revisit with us about mid-season.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

I had heard the licensing agreement payed them a percentage of some sort of annual sale of some item which averaged out to $800,000 a year. It doesn't excuse the fact that the Seahawks stole the idea and passed it off as their own.

one that isn't true

second it was hardly a stolen idea - the concepts are fairly different (given that the A&M 12th man comes from a person in the stands who literally came into the game to play - they also have their roll call traditions and a bunch of other things) - the settlement was something to merely make them feel happy and allow the seahawks to use the 12th man in official publications without challenging the A&M rights to it (up until that time seattle didn't use the phrase at all - they did use the #, but you can't trademark a #)

seattle's is to honor the fans as a whole, who in the 80s made the kingdome the loudest place in the league - the league tried to enforce silly rules about crowd enduced delay of games if the QB couldn't communicate because of them ....... buffalo also has a similiar tribute in their stadium

when the hawks hired tod leiweke to help integrate the team back into the community he brought the #12 to life - they did a whole bunch of things, some of which the cardinals have copied from them and the ravens have copied from them

skorp - my thoughts last year that unless things fell apart there wouldn't be any conflict - if things did fall apart then you could get the offense/defense fingerpointed compounded by dueling coaches, organizational direction differences, etc

the team played very hard for mike last year - they just weren't good enough - MHs loyalty to his staff ended up hurting him in the end - but that team didn't quit for a minute

last year can be best summed up by explaining that seneca wallace throwing to koren robinson is awesome because it beats charlie frye throwing to the two headed monster of billy mcmullen and keary colbert .......... seriously, koren robinson was the 3rd leading receiver (2nd among WRs) on the team .... not much you can do to coach your way out of that one

 

[Ryanwb]

If it wasn't stolen, why did they have to enter a licensing agreement for it? I'd call that stealing

End of story

 

[MigratingOsprey]

they entered into a licensing agreement because it's cheaper than defending yourself in court - good business, that's all

you don't always have to fight to win and it opened up doors for a ton of extra avenues that they had not tapped into as of yet

the opposite question holds just as true - if they were infringing on A&M why did it take 20 years for them to try and protect their brand?

 

[Ryanwb]

I can answer to the troubles of the Seahawks last season. I have it on good authority that Matt Hasselbeck routinely gives riveting halftime speeches about his stuggles with personal demons. He talks about his connection with God, his struggles with homosexuality and routinely breaks into tears. Some of the players took offense to his crying fits at halftime and became segregated from the more senior players.

So there was much contention in the locker room last year and with Seahawks fans who allign with Hasselbeck's sexual preference, as evident by our resident Seahawk fan.

I for one am in support of Hasselbeck and his internal struggles and if he chooses to break down emotionally at halftime of each game I applaud his courage and hope he can one day find peace

 

[Ryanwb]

if they were infringing on A&M why did it take 20 years for them to try and protect their brand?

From my understanding, it was established in 1922, I have no idea where you get your information from or why you must continuously provide hostility to this board when you are not a fan of any team from Arizona.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

i'm not arguing when A&M established their brand - nor am i providing hostility - i'm just providing information to clarify a point as it's a subject i'm familiar with for obvious reasons

just because my viewpoint doesn't always match your world view, doesn't make it wrong or hostile

 

[cardsfanmd]

I can answer to the troubles of the Seahawks last season. I have it on good authority that Matt Hasselbeck routinely gives riveting halftime speeches about his stuggles with personal demons. He talks about his connection with God, his struggles with homosexuality and routinely breaks into tears. Some of the players took offense to his crying fits at halftime and became segregated from the more senior players.

So there was much contention in the locker room last year and with Seahawks fans who allign with Hasselbeck's sexual preference, as evident by our resident Seahawk fan.

I for one am in support of Hasselbeck and his internal struggles and if he chooses to break down emotionally at halftime of each game I applaud his courage and hope he can one day find peace

Agreed, but dont be naive enough to underestimate the negative effect those God-awful "expedia...DOT COM" commercials had on the team (and all of humanity for that matter).

 

[Arizona's Finest]

The sense of entitlement by Seahawk fans (my cousin happens to be a die hard so I know all too well) is staggering IMO. Where Seahawk fans think they sit in the NFL universe is no where the national percpetion of where the actually do.

I am not taking anything away from them but they have beat up on a horrid division for 6 years or so and have one NFC championship to show for it. They are a good home team but you get them anywhere away from Qwest and they are a mediocre team. Look at the splits during their "run".

What Seahawk fans don't get is that they are irrelevant outside of Seattle. Nobody nationally cares about them one way or the other. We were absolute losers for most of our time in Arizona. But we had an identity. And that was proved by after our initial taste of success getting alot of casual and national fans getting on board.

I don't remember anything like that for Seattle after 05.

Oh well. Let them think what they want. Soon enough they will sink into even MORE irrelevance once we assume their year in year out throne of the division. And I bet when its all said and done we have more to show for it too.

Suck it Seahawks fan. Reality bites.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

neither of our teams are relevant nationwide - you guys were a cinderalla story, but cinderella often loses her shine and then it's onto the next

the moment you falter up, it's back to the old press (see the st. louis rams for example)

most seahawk fans I know are thankful that we now have solid ownership, a great stadium and a semi-competant front office ........ after 20 years it's nice to have at least a competative expectation most seasons

there fan base is no different than any other - it's a fan base - you have your vocal blowhards, your vocal doomsdayers, those who remain silently in either camp, those who are casual and will only show up when things are going well, those who are quick to ride a bandwagon and a trend and those who just enjoy it and don't take it all that seriously

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Seahawks fans who allign with Hasselbeck's sexual preference, as evident by our resident Seahawk fan.

i don't know what I find funnier, the fact that you want to align a sexual orientation to me because of a team I like or that you think i'd take offense to it - like being called gay is some great personal insult - which I don't because i don't consider being gay some great evil negative

 

[Arizona's Finest]

neither of our teams are relevant nationwide - you guys were a cinderalla story, but cinderella often loses her shine and then it's onto the next

the moment you falter up, it's back to the old press (see the st. louis rams for example)

most seahawk fans I know are thankful that we now have solid ownership, a great stadium and a semi-competant front office ........ after 20 years it's nice to have at least a competative expectation most seasons

there fan base is no different than any other - it's a fan base - you have your vocal blowhards, your vocal doomsdayers, those who remain silently in either camp, those who are casual and will only show up when things are going well, those who are quick to ride a bandwagon and a trend and those who just enjoy it and don't take it all that seriously

Too sensible of a post.

You suck. We rule

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Too sensible of a post.

You suck. We rule

no you suck and is there any doubt is more than coincidence that the phoenix real estate market had it's greatest growth rate during the span that seattle won the NFC west and then fell apart along with the nations economy as the seahawks started slipping?!

it's not the first time though, the blip in the mid-80s aligns with them falling out of playoff contention and being sold to the behrings

the blip in the early 90s, that was the 2-14 season

it's obvious the whole world is centered around the seahawks

besides, you never know when we may be on the same side of a discussion - like college football