Seems like we should sign a vet corner

[Goldfield]

Who is available and who do you like.?

 

[JeffGollin]

Is Richard Sherman available?

Gas still left in tank?

 

[BritCard]

I like Breeland, Hayward and Sherman although I don't think Sherman is a great scheme fit.

Personally I'd take a shot on Hayward. Seriously talented guy who I don't think is cooked because of one down year in a defense that struggled.

And he'd be a great vet presence around the rookies.

 

[DVontel]

I like Breeland, Hayward and Sherman although I don't think Sherman is a great scheme fit.

Personally I'd take a shot on Hayward. Seriously talented guy who I don't think is cooked because of one down year in a defense that struggled.

And he'd be a great vet presence around the rookies.

Could he have not been a decent reason that defense struggled because he might be cooked?

 

[az jam]

How about Steve Nelson. He started for the Steelers for several years.

 

[BritCard]

Could he have not been a decent reason that defense struggled because he might be cooked?

Its unlikely considering the whole thing was poor. But sure, he could be, but I'd wager not.

Don't burst into flames at the mention of PFF but he had an 83 grade the year before. I don't think he suddenly burnt out.

 

[Shane]

Its unlikely considering the whole thing was poor. But sure, he could be, but I'd wager not.

Don't burst into flames at the mention of PFF but he had an 83 grade the year before. I don't think he suddenly burnt out.

well players 31 yoa do tend to suddenly burnout often in the nfl... Not always but it’s certainly not uncommon

 

[BritCard]

well players 31 yoa do tend to suddenly burnout often in the nfl... Not always but it’s certainly not uncommon

Sure, but I don't think he is yet. Its not like he's 34. He's still 31. He's 6 months older than Butler. 9 months older than P2.

This is just my opinion but having Nasir Adderley at FS (who didn't play well) threw off both CBs.

Hayward only gave up a 49% completion rate which is elite. Michael Davis on the other side gave up 60%.

But both outside corners got burnt deep compared to normal. Hayward gave up 631 yards vs 350 the year before in less games with a big leap in YPC. Which would concern me normally, but Davis had the exact same thing.

Which suggests to me that there was communication or scheme issues.

Either way you get a guy who at worst is far better than Dre Kirkpatrick and at best returns to elite form.

 

[Goldfield]

Is Richard Sherman available?

Gas still left in tank?

Love his intensity but I don’t think he’s a man corner

 

[RockinDaMike]

It would just be too weird to have Sherman on our team. I dunno if I can root for the guy


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[SECTION 11]

I’d keep some cash available for some surprise cuts at corner as opposed to signing one of the guys available now.

 

[QuebecCard]

I’d keep some cash available for some surprise cuts at corner as opposed to signing one of the guys available now.

You can't count on that and we need some added VET help.

We can (and we've done it before) trade for someone who is on the bubble.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'd go with Bashaud Breeland or Steven Nelson. Both are better than Kirkpatrick was last year.

The Cards could conceivably be better at corner for less money this coming season.

Tight end needs to be addressed as well.

 

[kerouac9]

Love his intensity but I don’t think he’s a man corner

The good news is that I don’t think we’re gonna be a man team anytime soon. Every team in our division highlighted how trash Vance Joseph’s man concepts were.

 

[QuebecCard]

The good news is that I don’t think we’re gonna be a man team anytime soon. Every team in our division highlighted how trash Vance Joseph’s man concepts were.

Concepts or PP21 and Dre?

 

[Goldfield]

The good news is that I don’t think we’re gonna be a man team anytime soon. Every team in our division highlighted how trash Vance Joseph’s man concepts were.

Well he has no more excuses this year.

 

[BritCard]

The good news is that I don’t think we’re gonna be a man team anytime soon. Every team in our division highlighted how trash Vance Joseph’s man concepts were.

This whole "Vance is a press man guy" thing is just wrong. Maybe he favours it in neutral situations but nobody is playing much man press.

The highest percentage of man coverage in the league in 2019 was 54%. The 3rd most was 44%.

All but 2 teams played more zone, whereas the highest zone team played 75% zone.

Overall teams are in zone about 66%. So seems more important you have CBs that are good in zone.

Obviously it's situational but it seems far more situations call for zone.

 

[Cardiac]

Keim has stated that he drafted Gowan and Wilson were because of the man cover skills. He went on to say that is something they need because of VJ's scheme.

 

[kerouac9]

Keim has stated that he drafted Gowan and Wilson were because of the man cover skills. He went on to say that is something they need because of VJ's scheme.

That’s very stupid because neither of those guys will amount to squat. Late-round picks in the thinnest draft in history. Give me a break.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

That’s very stupid because neither of those guys will amount to squat. Late-round picks in the thinnest draft in history. Give me a break.

Can they be any worse than all of the late round picks he's made in robust drafts?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Vet corner? Uh yeah. Relying on rookies is a bad idea. You hope the rookies pan out, but

 

[Cardiac]

That’s very stupid because neither of those guys will amount to squat. Late-round picks in the thinnest draft in history. Give me a break.

Just relaying what I heard. When asked who they fought was their "steal" of the draft both KK and SK said it was Wilson. They believe they have a legit NFL CB.

 

[Solar7]

Steven Nelson or I'm not really interested.

I'm not going to criticize the team for signing Breeland if that were to happen, but the rest I'm not into.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Vet corner? Uh yeah. Relying on rookies is a bad idea. You hope the rookies pan out, but

Cmon, what could go badly relying on rookie corners?





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[BritCard]

Steven Nelson or I'm not really interested.

I'm not going to criticize the team for signing Breeland if that were to happen, but the rest I'm not into.

Nelson is getting badly overrated here. Yeah he's had a couple of decent seasons lately but the Chiefs let him go. The Steelers just cut him.

They didn't do that because he's Jalen Ramsey.

He's no better than Breeland or other vets on the market.