Seems PP took some offense to Sherman's outburst as well….

[Southpaw]

The times I loathe myself the most are when I'm so cocksure of something, so bulletproof screwed-down certain, that I don't make room for the possibility that I might not be just wrong, I might be loud wrong.

Take, for instance, Ray Lewis.

Despised him. Didn't trust him. Didn't matter that I didn't know him.

Didn't care that he was a 13-time Pro Bowl linebacker. Never liked the dance. Never liked all of the God speeches. Remember what he said after last season's Super Bowl win? "When God is for you, who can be against you?" What did the 49ers do to piss off God? Never saw any reason a man needed black paint all over his face to play football. It's not faceblack. It's eyeblack.

[....]

Now that is damn good creative writing.

 

[Darkside]

Not to go too far off topic... and i'm not a big fan of Ray Lewis' "schtick"... but i found this an interesting read recently. Starts out expressing similar sentiments to yours....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10154437/rick-reilly-misunderstanding-ray-lewis



...dave

Good read, thanks for sharing it.

 

[john h]

It doesn't bother me. I just kinda laugh when I see little things like that from athletes.

It makes me wonder how in the h--- he got into Stanford? If a university gives an athlete a full boat ride scholarship and he leaves for the NFl after 2 years does he just walk away free from any obligations? Some of these guys have trouble speaking English much less obtaining a degree. I would have thought that some high profile schools like Harvard, Stanford, Yale, etc would not even accept them in the first place. For every dumb athlete they accept some smart kid with good academic records is rejected. I sort of know the answer to this but something seems wrong at the core of the whole thing. If I tell my buddy I graduated from Stanford and expect some high praise then I get "oh yes that is were the all pro Sherman attended". There still are some schools the put academics above athletics such as MIT or the University of Chicago. I once attended a Athletes Frat party at the University of Michigan. I have never seen such a bunch of animals in on place in my life. I am not saying all athletes in college are dumb but they have more than there fair share.

 

[AZ Native]

How did he get into Stanford? As scholar-athlete, he was Salutatorian (ranked second) in his high school class with a 4.1 GPA. He graduated in 2010 from Stanford with a degree in communication and returned for his final year of eligibility in order to begin a Masters degree. That being said, I too, could have done without his rant after the game.

Interesting reads about him:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1929771-getting-to-know-richard-sherman

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/

 

[john h]

I hate both dudes. Crabtree tried to fight him and Sherman didn't want to fight..and instead Sherman douched out in public. Kind of weak response. I prefer classless ass hats to keep their idiocy off the screen and wish they would have beaten each other into mush. If Crabtree had scored and lost his mind it would be the same.

Would you want your daugther to date Sherman? I am very surprised that Sherman graduated from high school with a 4.0 after that outburst. Where what he said was true or not the way he delivered it was like some 20 year inmate from the big house. He proclaimed he was the best in the NFL. That may or may not be true but what great player goes on national TV screaming into a lady reporter's face like that. I think she was scared. The man just does not seem to be all there. I would like to see that high school where he graduated from with a 4.0. Wonder what his grades were at Stanford while he was there. I graduated from college on the Dean's list and Sherman makes 20-40 times more than me because he is one of the best in the world at what he does and there is a demand for those people. Wish I had some football skills. Before that outburst I just thought of him as a good NFL football player. Now after that outburst I think the man needs some help in part of his life dealing with people. We rarely ever see a QB go crazy like that. Most of them seem to be smart well spoken players. Of course Vick killed dogs but he is an exception. You need a certain amount of brain power to be an NFL QB. Other positions may just require you be a bad a-- guy who is ready to take you out.

 

[BigRedRage]

Would you want your daugther to date Sherman? I am very surprised that Sherman graduated from high school with a 4.0 after that outburst. Where what he said was true or not the way he delivered it was like some 20 year inmate from the big house. He proclaimed he was the best in the NFL. That may or may not be true but what great player goes on national TV screaming into a lady reporter's face like that. I think she was scared. The man just does not seem to be all there. I would like to see that high school where he graduated from with a 4.0. Wonder what his grades were at Stanford while he was there. I graduated from college on the Dean's list and Sherman makes 20-40 times more than me because he is one of the best in the world at what he does and there is a demand for those people. Wish I had some football skills. Before that outburst I just thought of him as a good NFL football player. Now after that outburst I think the man needs some help in part of his life dealing with people. We rarely ever see a QB go crazy like that. Most of them seem to be smart well spoken players. Of course Vick killed dogs but he is an exception. You need a certain amount of brain power to be an NFL QB. Other positions may just require you be a bad a-- guy who is ready to take you out.

QBs are a different breed. You have to have inside you what Sherman let out to be competitive. Qbs are typically much nicer and more passive than defensive players. Defensive players have a major edge otherwise he would likely be a WR or something instead.

I have felt so pumped up after something that I could yell and scream and beat my chest like that before, its not that otherworldly.

My accomplishments were nothing like making the game winning play that sends me to my first superbowl either. Who knows what I would do in that scenario.

Plus, hes young.

 

[Cheesebeef]

QBs are a different breed. You have to have inside you what Sherman let out to be competitive. Qbs are typically much nicer and more passive than defensive players. Defensive players have a major edge otherwise he would likely be a WR or something instead.

I have felt so pumped up after something that I could yell and scream and beat my chest like that before, its not that otherworldly.

My accomplishments were nothing like making the game winning play that sends me to my first superbowl either. Who knows what I would do in that scenario.

Plus, hes young.

agreed. doesn't mean I wasn't taken a little aback by it and would still rather players act with class, but it was what it was.

 

[D-Dogg]

Would you want your daugther to date Sherman?

No.












She's 13.

 

[Darkside]

agreed. doesn't mean I wasn't taken a little aback by it and would still rather players act with class, but it was what it was.

Agree with this. It's tricky because we want more than sound bites and complain when they aren't real--then when someone is really real we're like whoa not that real! It's football and I think most of us have heard a lot worse than that, it just wasn't meant for TV. Its tough on youth coaches and parents IMO--you try and try to get them to win and lose with class and they turn on the TV and hear a millionaire star player acting that way. That's the unfortunate part to me. If grown men get offended they just need to sack up, it's the kids, coaches, and parents who really have to deal with it, unfortunately.

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[Cheesebeef]

Agree with this. It's tricky because we want more than sound bites and complain when they aren't real--then when someone is really real we're like whoa not that real! It's football and I think most of us have heard a lot worse than that, it just wasn't meant for TV. Its tough on youth coaches and parents IMO--you try and try to get them to win and lose with class and they turn on the TV and hear a millionaire star player acting that way. That's the unfortunate part to me. If grown men get offended they just need to sack up, it's the kids, coaches, and parents who really have to deal with it, unfortunately.

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yeah...and Sherman brought up a good, but uncomfortable point here today. Most people have classified him as a "thug"...not an idiot, punk or classless, but a thug and IMO, that wreaks of latent racism. We saw it even in this thread where someone compared Sherman's antics to an inmate at the big house. Dude didn't commit a crime or even show those tendencies. He's never gotten nailed beating a woman, abusing drugs like coke (he has done performance enhancers, but that doesn't make him a thug unless people want to start calling a guy like Brian Braun a thug) and doesn't get in trouble with the law. He just acted like an idiot.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

good read

What Richard Sherman Taught Us About America

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isaac-saul/what-richard-sherman-taught-us_b_4631980.html

 

[Southpaw]

Sherman chooses a national spotlight to create an image, that may be affected or real, but nonetheless comes across as the perception of his psyche. Then he proceeds accusing anyone with a negative connotation of not understanding the "true him". BS. If he wants to be a cartoon character/caricature then live with his image and don't blame others who do not appreciate his"act". All of the talking sports heads have uniformly come to his defense, which may be attributable to their reliance on those same types of figures for their interviews. Richard Sherman will be remembered for these outbursts, which are not occasional, more than for his on field performance.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

Only because he plays for the Seahawks
Let's say he plays for GB and does the same after GB x 49ers game
he would have been a hero here

enough said

 

[Arizona's Finest]

yeah...and Sherman brought up a good, but uncomfortable point here today. Most people have classified him as a "thug"...not an idiot, punk or classless, but a thug and IMO, that wreaks of latent racism. We saw it even in this thread where someone compared Sherman's antics to an inmate at the big house. Dude didn't commit a crime or even show those tendencies. He's never gotten nailed beating a woman, abusing drugs like coke (he has done performance enhancers, but that doesn't make him a thug unless people want to start calling a guy like Brian Braun a thug) and doesn't get in trouble with the law. He just acted like an idiot.

I think the latent racism point you make and he make is complete bunk.

Thug is not synoumous with African Americans. I have seen and celled white people, hispanic peope, black people, and oriental people.....Thugs.

No racial connotation whatsoever at least for me. And for Sherman to suggest otherwise hurts the cause of ACTUAL racism.

And I dont think Sherman is a Thug. I think he is a punk. And I got no time for it. Even if PP is 50% the player that Sherman is (and i dont think thats the case) ill take him every day of the week over that guy.

Now you want to talk about some black on black crime? Read Andre Iguodala's TL when this happened. As a black man he used a inapproriate term as an adjective and said Sherman set the whole race back 500 years. I dont agree with it. Hell I wouldnt be caught dead thinking that let alone tweeting it.

But interesting comment nonetheless from another african american athlete.

The whole Sherman backtracking after this and then Skip Bayless comments makes me respect him even less. You know what you are doing. Your shtick is manufactured. Its all crafted for a purpose.

So OWN IT. Dont back pedal like a punk. You want to be the heel, the villian, then take the good and bad that comes with it.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Sherman chooses a national spotlight to create an image, that may be affected or real, but nonetheless comes across as the perception of his psyche. Then he proceeds accusing anyone with a negative connotation of not understanding the "true him". BS. If he wants to be a cartoon character/caricature then live with his image and don't blame others who do not appreciate his"act". All of the talking sports heads have uniformly come to his defense, which may be attributable to their reliance on those same types of figures for their interviews. Richard Sherman will be remembered for these outbursts, which are not occasional, more than for his on field performance.

Didnt read this prior to posting but EXACTLY.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Only because he plays for the Seahawks
Let's say he plays for GB and does the same after GB x 49ers game
he would have been a hero here

enough said

Yeah enough said. Wrong bruh.

The only team he could play for and I may justify it is the Cards. Anyone else and it was/is pisses me off.

But I am not even sure that is the case. I like my Fitzgeralds, my Honey Badgers, and my Petersons. Guys who say and do it the right way (at least so far with HB). Makes them easier to cheer for and have my kids wear their jerseys.

But really Saddam Hussain could be a Cardinal and I would cheer for him. Just the way it works. I dont confuse my morals and my sports. They are mutually exclusive, at least for me.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

This is my point. It's not about Sherman, it's about the Seahawks. And yeah, he'd be an angel if he plays for the Cardinals.
He is a good player, that's why he is attacked. If he is nobody, no one would have cared. My Q is it hatred or jealousy?

 

[Russ Smith]

So turns out NFL Films had him miced up for the game and some stuff is starting come out about the awful stuff Sherman said to Crabtree.

For example after the game when he ran up to him and put his hand out and Crabtree pushed his hand into Sherman's facemask. Sherman went all straight out of Compton gangster on him and said "helluva game man helluva game".

I made this analogy somewhere else, if you were on the freeway and some idiot cut you off then flipped you off and drove off. You pull off at your exit and as you pull up to the stop sign, Erin Andrews walks up to the driver window and puts a microphone in your face and asks you how you feel about just getting cut off, odds are you're going to say something then you might not say 20 minutes later.

Sherman publicly apologized.

 

[Southpaw]

S

I made this analogy somewhere else, if you were on the freeway and some idiot cut you off then flipped you off and drove off. You pull off at your exit and as you pull up to the stop sign, Erin Andrews walks up to the driver window and puts a microphone in your face and asks you how you feel about just getting cut off, odds are you're going to say something then you might not say 20 minutes later.

Sherman publicly apologized.

Weak analogy. Did he apologize or rationalize?

How about this analogy? Sherman trash talks the whole game, pee's off Crabtree, and then comes up after the game to say, "we cool". No thank you.

 

[unseenaz]

Weak analogy. Did he apologize or rationalize?

How about this analogy? Sherman trash talks the whole game, pee's off Crabtree, and then comes up after the game to say, "we cool". No thank you.

That's actually a perfect analogy.

 

[cardncubfan]

Weak analogy. Did he apologize or rationalize?

How about this analogy? Sherman trash talks the whole game, pee's off Crabtree, and then comes up after the game to say, "we cool". No thank you.

Only thing is Crabtree does just as much trash talking.

 

[Russ Smith]

Weak analogy. Did he apologize or rationalize?

How about this analogy? Sherman trash talks the whole game, pee's off Crabtree, and then comes up after the game to say, "we cool". No thank you.

He apologized, said he wished he'd handled it differently.

I guess the part that baffles me is we seem to be pretending Crabtree is a choir boy here, again do people not remember all the woofing he did at Patrick Peterson 2 years ago when he had a couple of huge games against him? Did people not read that story about him trying to start a fight with Sherman at Fitz' charity event? MAybe it's because I live in 49er country and see the guy play often but again if that throw had been better and he catches it for a TD he would have been the one flagged for taunting, that's who he is.

he's a hard worker yes, but he's one of the bigger trash talkers in the league. he's the guy who after every first down catch gets up and points.

I think Sherman got it right, they threw at him twice all day, once a penalty, once the INT. they thought Sherman would be asleep because they'd avoided him all game, he wasn't and made the play. then he walks up to Crabtree and offers a handshake saying hell of a game, and he winds up flagged for taunting because of how Crabtree reacted.

I'm sure there was trashtalking earlier in the game, I'm betting it went both ways. At the end Sherman made the play, Crabtree didn't.

The one thing he did I didn't like was the choking gesture he made at Kaepernick.

As for the analogy this happened literally a couple of minutes after the game ended, which is precisely why they conduct interviews like that they're hoping to get a reaction like that.

I mean in the whole scheme of things what was worse his reaction after the game or the stuff Riley Cooper spewed because he'd been drinking and didn't realize people were going to find out what he said?

 

[DemsMyBoys]

That may or may not be true but what great player goes on national TV screaming into a lady reporter's face like that. I think she was scared.

I don't. I think she was surprised. Erin Andrews has been a sports reporter for years. Had she not been cut off by her producer (she said she was) I think she'd have asked him another question and held out the mic and let him continue to erupt.

This is the stuff that can make a career. No one's talked about a sports reporter this much since Brent Mussberger said, "Wow!"

 

[AZ Native]

Weak analogy. Did he apologize or rationalize?

How about this analogy? Sherman trash talks the whole game, pee's off Crabtree, and then comes up after the game to say, "we cool". No thank you.

Does/did Crabtree trash talk?

 

[AZ Native]

I don't. I think she was surprised. Erin Andrews has been a sports reporter for years. Had she not been cut off by her producer (she said she was) I think she'd have asked him another question and held out the mic and let him continue to erupt.

This is the stuff that can make a career. No one's talked about a sports reporter this much since Brent Mussberger said, "Wow!"

It appears from the sequence of events, she knew exactly what she was walking into. Good stuff.