Seitzer Canned

[ActingWild]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0711seitzerout-CR.html

"Seitzer out as hitting coach
The Arizona Republic
Jul. 11, 2007 05:04 PM

The Arizona Diamondbacks have fired hitting coach Kevin Seitzer. The team is hitting .248, 27th out of 30 teams in the major leagues.

Rick Schu is taking over those duties for manager Bob Melvin.

"We felt a change was an appropriate decision based on our offensive struggles,” said Josh Byrnes, Diamondbacks’ Senior Vice President and General Manager, in a statement released this evening. “Kevin Seitzer gave us tremendous passion and effort. Rick Schu has history with a lot of our players, and we feel he can help us improve our performance."

Schu, 45, is in his 10th season with the Diamondbacks and second stint as the Major League hitting coach, having done so in 2004. He has held the position of hitting coordinator, overseeing hitting instruction for Arizona’s farm system, in 2003 and from 2005-07.

Seitzer joined the team in October 2006, and this was his first season as a major league coach.

Seitzer had a 12-year career as a player."


Good riddance I say. I haven't seen any of our phenoms show growth under his guidance.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Well, this may be the first of several subsequent moves.

Typically, a team terminates an instructor first (usually they're merely just a "scape-goat") to see if that ignites any initial spark. If not, then you will witness 1 or 2 trades (perhaps either Byrnes or Tracy).

Then, if that is all for naught, the inevitable will happen, which is bye-bye Melvin. You all know I'm a major critic of his, so I'll refrain from any further comment regarding him at this time.

 

[devilalum]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2933467

They fired the wrong guy.

Or maybe they cut out a small chunk of the tumor but left the giant malignant BoMel behind.

 

[Lefty]

Good start. If the Diamondbacks continue to slump, Melvin will be next to go.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Good riddance. The fact that Tracy, CoJack, Quentin, and Drew have all severely regressed as hitters since he came aboard probably isn't a coincidence. You're next Melvin.

 

[HooverDam]

Good start. If the Diamondbacks continue to slump, Melvin will be next to go.

Its so weird having to root against your team so that something like this can happen, and help them in the long run.

 

[Gaddabout]

OK, someone tell me why Rick Schu's name sounds so familiar. I seem to recall a hitting clinic with him when I was 17 and he was teaching us how to hit opposite field. None of us could pull the ball for two games after that clinic. We'd forgotten how. Maybe it was someone else named Schu, because he would've been in his early 20s if it were him.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Schu used to play for the Phillies.

 

[Mulli]

Good riddance. The fact that Tracy, CoJack, Quentin, and Drew have all severely regressed as hitters since he came aboard probably isn't a coincidence. You're next Melvin.

 

[The Commish]

I remember all the fluff pieces on Seitzer with all the players saying how much they liked him. The guy didn't even make it an entire season. I agree though that Melvin is probably going to be on the hot seat fairly soon - I don't understand why the DBacks front office likes the guy other than the fact that he will be a convenient scapegoat if things really turn south.

Kirk Gibson anyone?

 

[HooverDam]

Kirk Gibson anyone?

I'd rather have Chip Hale. Gibson to my knowledge hasn't managed at any level, Hale has and he's done well. He knows these young guys very well. I say make Hale the manager and keep Gibson as bench coach.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Nah, it'll be someone from within the Red Sox or Indians organization. Byrnes imported most of the help for the front office from his past haunts, he'll do the same with the manager once the time comes.

Someone on a UA board mentioned Brad Mills, former Wildcat and Red Sox bench coach as a strong possibility. The question is whether that would get Hoover's blood boiling as much as the Kerr hire.

 

[HooverDam]

The question is whether that would get Hoover's blood boiling as much as the Kerr hire.

I just said that they should hire Hale, who correct me if I'm wrong, is a UA guy. I don't care if local teams hire UA guys, or have former UA players if they are good and QUALIFIED. Steve Kerr by ANY measurement was not qualified to be an NBA GM. Or do you think that being a TV analyst makes him a lot more qualified than someone like Griffin?

 

[PoolBoy]

fire booooooooo mel!

 

[BC867]

I'd rather have Chip Hale. Gibson to my knowledge hasn't managed at any level, Hale has and he's done well. He knows these young guys very well. I say make Hale the manager and keep Gibson as bench coach.

Chip Hale was Minor League Manager of the Year last year, despite all the call-ups and send-down from the D'backs. That's quite an accomplishment.

I'm rooting for him to get the promotion to Manager.

I actually believe that Kirk Gibson would have best been used as Hitting Coach. But now it's too late.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Chip Hale was Minor League Manager of the Year last year, despite all the call-ups and send-down from the D'backs. That's quite an accomplishment.

I'm rooting for him to get the promotion to Manager.

I actually believe that Kirk Gibson would have best been used as Hitting Coach. But now it's too late.

In '05, Kirk Gibson, served as the Tiger's hitting coach for the final few months of the season after they fired Bruce Fields. Gibson did an amazing job, however, it's about time he becomes manager.

We've had this debate/discussion several times before on our opinions of the matter. I'm just concerned that Chip Hale might manage these younger players with "kid gloves" considering he also managed them in the minors. I must admit, I'm not too familiar with Hale's managerial style. Is he the vocal type or very laid-back?

 

[BC867]

I must admit, I'm not too familiar with Hale's managerial style. Is he the vocal type or very laid-back?

From what I've read, he's not laid back. Not a Wally Backman . . . but Chip is full of enthusiasm (unlike the Walking Coma we have now).

 

[Phxchris1989]

Its so weird having to root against your team so that something like this can happen, and help them in the long run.

I know, reminds me of Live Free or Die Hard.

 

[Dback Jon]

Bump for 82cardsfan

 

[82CardsGrad]

Bump for 82cardsfan

You always were such a thoughtful guy!

 

[Dback Jon]

You always were such a thoughtful guy!

Actually it is a good read - more things change...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Actually it is a good read - more things change...

Right... so let's try the coaching merry-go-round again... Surely a 3rd time is the charm!
Can't be that the things that survive - you know, the players - might actually suck could it??

 

[Dback Jon]

Right... so let's try the coaching merry-go-round again... Surely a 3rd time is the charm!
Can't be that the things that survive - you know, the players - might actually suck could it??

BOBO wasn't fired then, like many wanted

 

[82CardsGrad]

BOBO wasn't fired then, like many wanted

I know... but the hitting coach was and now, everyone wants the hitting coach tossed again...

What's that saying about stupidity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

 

[Dback Jon]

I know... but the hitting coach was and now, everyone wants the hitting coach tossed again...

What's that saying about stupidity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

So maybe the issue IS Bobo, with his passive style, his ever changing lineups, his stupid bullpen decisions.