I've been thinking along these lines for awhile but I'm not excited about trading Rosen even for a first round pick.
For me it's more important to make sure the Cardinals have the right quarterback on their roster.
IMO, it's not a sure thing one is better than the other. I'd like to find out if the Cardinals are intent on drafting Murray.
Me too. I would prefer if we drafted Murray, to keep Rosen.
I know that this would mean we would lose out on a top or near it rated guy at a different position, but I think if you want to maximize KK's offense, you need to make sure you have a QB. Rosen is a question mark, and any rookie QB is a question mark. But with Rosen and Murray, it gives KK the best chance possible to implement a dynamic offense.
First things first, KK needs to ensure as best possible he has a QB. After that we can build around whoever that QB is. It's a weird situation because most teams never have the opportunity to have a choice like this. It wasn't even realistically possible in the salary cap era until the current CBA. We are in position to take advantage of this. Just because it hasn't been done before, doesn't mean it's the wrong move. It's a different situation, especially with QB's like Wilson probably aiming for ~35-40 mill a season on his next contract.
Ideally I don't want to have all our eggs in one question mark QB basket because, quite frankly, we don't have to. We have the ability to have Rosen and Murray on the roster and for it to cost less than most teams carry at the QB position cap wise. Comparatively, it doesn't put us in a cap disadvantage versus other teams, it just uses up some of the advantage of having a rookie QB contract with Rosen by also paying for Murray. Something we can change in future years if we want to and likely garner a decent or perhaps a good pick.
Some might point to Rosen's 'attitude' forcing a trade, but I don't believe that's assured since his attitude was just rumors with nothing behind them. The conventional wisdom is to trade Rosen if you draft Murray, but the guy isn't a grizzled vet, he's just off his rookie season. He hasn't proven anything. So I don't think it's the same thing asking Rosen to compete with a rookie QB to start as if he was some entrenched starter with 5-10 years experience.
Additionally, who is to say Rosen has a better chance to do something sitting behind a vet for 1-3 years? If that happens, there's no guarantee that this team won't draft another QB to compete with him after he sits behind a Brady or Rivers. In the end, forcing a trade might just result in him waiting 1-3 years to compete against a rookie and he could have that opportunity to do that this year instead. Not to mention that KK has a great track record at the collegiate level with QB's, and Rosen might genuinely be excited to be in such a situation.
The Cards have no doubt talked to Rosen and should realistically know how he'd react. We don't. The media don't. But they could. Whatever path they go down, they have info no one else has on what Rosen would think.
I think we could carry both, if we're willing to forgo a talent somewhere else, this one time, in KK's first year. No better time than now.
I'm not looking at it as what's best to win right now this season, but what's the best way to ensure we have something to build around at the most important position, for a supposed creative offensive mind hc, for the next 10+ years. Rosen+Murray firmly gives KK the foundation and tools to build something.
Fill the QB position, figure out the rest of the team after. Without a QB we're nowhere.
Taking this approach and meaning it would also force other teams to come up with their best offer whether this year or later. We don't have to give them a cheap QB. We don't have to unload him just because they and the media think we do or can generate clicks by saying there is a controversy. We don't need those few million in cap space these first couple of years. If anything, free agency has already happened, so this year it's a wash anyways.
If teams don't want to pay big for Rosen, we'll just keep him and let the best man win. If we were to draft Murray, I hope Keim entirely prices Rosen out of the trade market. If someone offers a ludicrous amount (multiple 1st round picks), I might reconsider, but I would rather have both on our team. We can trade either of the QB's 1-2-3 years from now, the one we deem lesser, whoever that one is.
Until then we get the best chance of a franchise QB possible for us and we have redundancy in case of injury. The rest of the NFL can suck it.
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