Sexson returning next Friday?

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As much as I'd like to see Sexon back playing next Friday when he comes off the DL, I hope Brenly will do the wise thing and not put Richie in the lineup until he's 100%. The last thing we need is for Richie to reinjure the shoulder and then be out for the rest of the season.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/0508boivin0508.html

Rest and rehab don't sit well with Sexson

Paola Boivin
Republic columnist
May. 8, 2004 12:00 AM


Disabled list? Richie Sexson belongs on a physically-unable-to-perform-like-an-injured-player list.

The man is everywhere. The Diamondbacks embark on an eight-day road trip and the first baseman with a bum shoulder sheepishly tags along.

Nine days ago the Diamondbacks predict he will be out four to six weeks, and Sexson says Friday he should be back in one.

He's either a man with an iron will on a mission to return quickly or a delusional athlete who has never had to wait for an injury to heal.

He's probably a bit of both.

"For him to have to sit and watch, I know it's just eating him up inside," manager Bob Brenly said. "He has turned himself into a pretty good cheerleader. He's the assistant batting coach, assistant manager and assistant first base coach."

The sooner Sexson returns, the better. The Diamondbacks managed just six hits in a 4-1 loss to Philadelphia. Starting pitcher Vicente Padilla hadn't won in nearly eight months.

Luis Gonzalez, who benefits from the protection Sexson offers batting cleanup, struck out in his final two at-bats.

Getting Sexson back next Friday, the first day he's eligible to come off the disabled list, would be a coup for a Diamondbacks team that has a chance to pick up ground during this 10-game homestand.

No one is more aware of Sexson's absence than Gonzalez. With Sexson in the lineup, No. 3 hitter Gonzalez batted .296. With Sexson out, Gonzalez is hitting .231.

Sans Sexson, pitchers treat Gonzalez differently. During a recent face-off with Chicago Cubs pitcher Glendon Rusch, Gonzalez saw nothing but breaking balls.

"If Richie's there, at least one of those pitches is a fastball," he said. "It's always nice to have the Big Bopper behind you."

Gonzalez looks forward to his teammate's return. But six days?

"I like it," Gonzalez said. "I'll drive a cart up to the plate for him."

Sexson would like nothing better than to be back in the lineup. This is foreign territory for a man who last year with Milwaukee became the first player to play every inning in a 162-game season since Cal Ripken Jr. in 1986.

"A lot of things go through your mind," he said. "You're disappointed for yourself, for your teammates. I know the organization went through a lot and gave away a lot of good players to get me here."

Sexson started working with weights Friday, he said, and he played catch before the game. There's always the danger that a restless injured player could do more damage by rushing through his rehabilitation, but he's not worried.

"I'd rather just get back as soon as I can," he said.

Until then, he's "just happy to be with the guys."

"I'm annoying everybody," he said. "I think they were getting a different flight for me out of Philly because I was wearing everybody out.

"I'm not really familiar with how to do this. You can get out of a baseball mode when you're away from your teammates and get away from the game. I want to be around everybody and be a cheerleader and watch the hitters so when I get back, my mind's not completely away from it."

Call Sexson enthusiastic. The Diamondbacks? Cautiously optimistic.

"When will Richie start swinging a bat? That's the $24,000 question," trainer Paul Lessard said. "I'm still worried about getting him stronger right now.

"When he's stronger, let's leave it at that. Rather than thinking five or six days ahead, I've been thinking one day at a time."

While General Manager Joe Garagiola Jr. is hopeful - "I hope he's (Sexson) right. God, I hope he's right" - he also knows how wishful thinking sometimes gets the best of determined athletes.

He remembers Curt Schilling writhing in pain on a training table in St. Louis, suffering from appendicitis.

"I happen to have a lot of excess collagen," he said between winces. "I heal fast."

Sexson thinks he does, too. Diamondbacks fans hope he's right.
 

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Uh oh, Richie

In the Arizona Republic of May 12, this blurb about the BrewCrew:

Shortstop J.J. Hardy, the top prospect in the Minor League system, likely will miss the rest of the season with a separated shoulder.

His shoulder popped out for the third time since last Fall when he checked his swing Sunday at Ottowa.
 

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BC867 said:
In the Arizona Republic of May 12, this blurb about the BrewCrew:

This is one of those weird injuries that seems to defer from person-to-person, so its tough to gauge when Sexson's return will be (for example that person's injury might be more severe than Ritchie's). Since he hasn't started swinging a bat it looks like the Dbacks are being cautious with him, just like I hoped they would
 

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Hillenbrand has played well at first and has started to hit, so this makes it much eaiser to let Richie take his time in getting back. :thumbup:
 

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easier on WHO? Not on Sexson!

He's back in the lineup today, a week later than he wanted, but sooner than anyone else really expected. He'll be rusty, but I do like having that presence in the lineup.

Now - Hillenbrand has been playing very good first base - I really think that's where he should be, not third - but the Tracy/Shea question is fairly clear: in the past week, Tracy's OBP is twice Shea's, and his BA is over a hundered points higher in comparable number of at bats. Shea has not been able to seize his opportunity.
 

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Shea to the Angels for a pitching prospect?
 

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Zona90 said:
Shea to the Angels for a pitching prospect?

No. Sexson could easily get hurt again and Colbrunn isn;t an everday alternative. Keep Shea.

There are a couple of problems I have with Sexson returning this soon. First, however, a disclaimer. I understand his importance to the lineup and what has happened since he has been gone. He has proven critical to the lineup.

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1. I worry he is coming back too soon and will find himself injured again and out for longer. I would rather wait at least an extra few days if not another week before pushing him back. The Dbacks need him for the long haul, not for the FLA series only.

2. I don't like that he is coming straight back without a tuneup with Tucson. Just a game or two to get back in the rythym instead of pushing Shea, who has played well in Sexson's absence, out only to strike out alot while he gets his swing back.
 
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Just great. Sexson re-tears the labrum muscle in his shoulder and will likely be out 4-8 weeks, and possibly the rest of the season if it's a complete tear of the muscle. Letting Richie rush his recovery was a BAD idea. I had a bad feeling he was going to reinjure the shoulder and held my breath every time he swung the bat. I know Richie was anxious to return and help the team turn the season around, but he's no doctor. If Richie's doctors were recommending he sit out longer to give his shoulder more time to heal fully, then I place the blame on D'backs management for listening to Sexson and not the real experts. Now that he'll likely be out an extended period, we can pretty much stick a fork in this season. :(
 

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This season was going no where with or without Sexson. We have 1 and 1/2 quality starters and 7 guys in the bullpen that are mediocre. Koplove will be burned out by July, Mantei has lost his confidence, and the rest don't want to throw strikes.

If we finish higher than 3rd we would have had a great season.

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Thank goodness for Shea Hillenbrand

Yotesfan85044 said:
Just great. Sexson re-tears the labrum muscle in his shoulder and will likely be out 4-8 weeks, and possibly the rest of the season if it's a complete tear of the muscle. Letting Richie rush his recovery was a BAD idea. I had a bad feeling he was going to reinjure the shoulder and held my breath every time he swung the bat.
Shea Hillenbrand is a hitter. With Richie back out of action, I'm glad we have him available.

And, under these circumstances of having to bat him cleanup, we have the two best situational hitters on the club hitting 3rd and 4th -- Gonzo and Shea.

Two guys who can hit a homerun, but more frequently go for the line drive.

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I like Richie Sexson, but I have to wonder. Did he, or anyone, drum into his head . . . whatever you do, no more checked swings. You start to swing, you finish it. It's just not worth it to avoid a strike.
 

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BC867 said:
I like Richie Sexson, but I have to wonder. Did he, or anyone, drum into his head . . . whatever you do, no more checked swings. You start to swing, you finish it. It's just not worth it to avoid a strike.

No, because Brenly was too busy telling Richie to hit home runs! :)

Check swings are a part of the game. I did not see it, but you would rather him strike out on bad pitches? Obviously the injury wasn't completely healed, because a check swing should not do this.
 

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Check swings are a part of the game. I did not see it, but you would rather him strike out on bad pitches?

Rather see him strike out on bad pitches than lose him for the season? You bet.

Richie is a classic strikeout-or-home run guy. You take the bad with the good.

Obviously the injury wasn't completely healed, because a check swing should not do this.
"Should not do this"? Isn't the reality "did or did not" versue "should not"?

I previously posted, but don't have the time to find it now, about a Minor Leaguer who repeated the "check swing" injury not just a second time, but a second and third time . . . then was lost for the rest of the season.

I respect your opinion, but I don't see how a theoretical discussion takes the place of Richie Sexon being lost to us again.

Ah, the convenience of copy-and-paste, huh, Green Machine? (Private joke, guys.) :)
 

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I sure am glad Sexson came back to help out that one game. Props to the team docs and trainers and the front office for not taking their time and getting him back into action.

Now, surgery may be needed which would lose him for the rest of the year. Solid stuff.

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The Sexson situation reminds me so much of what happened when the Tigers acquired Juan Gonzalez in a blockbuster trade just before the '00, however, I just hope the Dbacks will still manage to sign Sexson to a long-term deal....

Sexson must elect for surgery now since if does return too prematurely, he'll compound the injury further and it will affect him in the long-term....

Edit: Do the Dbacks still try to commit to a long-term deal with Sexson despite of what has transpired this year? More than likely they'll wait until when he has surgery to see if that completely corrects his problem....
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
Edit: Do the Dbacks still try to commit to a long-term deal with Sexson despite of what has transpired this year? More than likely they'll wait until when he has surgery to see if that completely corrects his problem....

I think the Dbacks almost have to re-sign him at this point otherwise, that whole trade will have been an unmitigated disaster. Surgery should correct it so I think the risk is relatively low for the Dbacks.

They cannot afford to have him hit the open market. That is a risk that is too great considering what they gave up to get him.
 

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I think the Dbacks almost have to re-sign him at this point otherwise, that whole trade will have been an unmitigated disaster. Surgery should correct it so I think the risk is relatively low for the Dbacks.

They cannot afford to have him hit the open market. That is a risk that is too great considering what they gave up to get him.
I agree with that, but I'm wondering if Sexson would be content with just a 1-year contract initially until he proves himself completely over this injury?

I apologize for constantly bringing-up the Tigers (my favorite team while growing-up), but I'll never forget the Dean Palmer fiasco....The Tigers committed a 6-year $42 mil contract and Palmer was impressive for at least the first 2-years, then sustained a neck and shoulder injury and wa never able to overcome that.... The slightest thing would cause Palmer to reinjure himself and I'm concerned that it might be the case with Sexson.....Surgeries dont guarantee 100% successful recovery, but regardless Sexson must elect surgery now instead of compounding matters worse....
 
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