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Sheed would throw a towel in Porters face.
No thanks.

Not sure why you would think that, I assume they got along fairly well when Porter was an assistant there.

And I think there'd be a snowball's chance in hell that the suns get Stuckey out of this. He's the main reason they shipped Billups out.
 

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This deal doesn't make sense.

Sheed's conrtact is expiring so essentially we get Prince, Afflalo, and cap relief for Amare and Barbs. As other posters have pointed out, Detroit doesn't have a use for Barbs with Iverson, Stuckey, and Rip. Afflalo is just fodder.
 

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This deal doesn't make sense.

Sheed's conrtact is expiring so essentially we get Prince, Afflalo, and cap relief for Amare and Barbs. As other posters have pointed out, Detroit doesn't have a use for Barbs with Iverson, Stuckey, and Rip. Afflalo is just fodder.

It does it your trying to make a run this year. Also, Barbs has a great contract..your not getting that much cap relief so I am sure that's not a factor. They are trying to make the numbers work and I am sure the Suns would insist on a guard in return.

However, this trade would still be a huge gamble IMO. Here is how I see it:

PG/SG
Basically trading Affalo for Barbosa. Barbs is our backup PG/SG. Affalo is just a throw in. Who is going to back up the point? Dragic????? Oh god no. Not to mention you just removed 20 points off our bench in Barbosa.

This part of the deal makes us weaker at guard and thins our bench scoring considerably.

SG/SF
If you do this trade it's to add a younger starter to your SF position. Because the combo of Hill/Barnes has been really good defensively this year so your not getting an upgrade on the defensive end IMO. Just getting younger. Then again, Prince averages almost 8 RPG. The thinking might be here that even though Rasheed underachieves on the boards you make up for it with Prince in your lineup.

This probably also means Barnes would slide over to SG at times (which he is already doing this season at times). This part adds depth to your bench but I think you still have not replaced Barbs scoring by moving Hill to the bench. Plus Hill has not played well off the bench.

PF/C
Sheed is better then Amare IMO on the defensive end , worse on the boards and worse on offense. So, if you make this trade, your doing it for mainly defense. Sheed is an underachiever on the boards as well for a guy his size. Although as stated above Prince might make up for some of that if you insert him into the starting lineup.

This would be an upgrade defensively but you lose alot of points at the PF position. Which means this team then would rely more on the PG/SG/SF positions to score.

Conclusion
This is a huge gamble but if this team wants to take another run at it this year......it might be the only viable option. I don't see this as being a "future" trade because your only getting Prince long term. Sheeds contract will be up and Affalo???

This adds defense to your starting lineup and adds some depth and youth at the SF position. I think the trade off is this team is worse off in the backup PG position and worse off from a bench scoring perspective. From a rebounding perspective it might be a push maybe slightly better because of Prince. It's a gamble.
 
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Stuckey WILL NOT be traded to anyone, let alone the Suns. I find it funny that you people think the Pistons would give him up.
 

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Stuckey WILL NOT be traded to anyone, let alone the Suns. I find it funny that you people think the Pistons would give him up.

He was not part of the report and I agree. People just throwing his name out there for wishful thinking.
 

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Stuckey WILL NOT be traded to anyone, let alone the Suns. I find it funny that you people think the Pistons would give him up.

It's not like we are offering Diaw and Bell. Stoudemire is a legitimate offer for Stuckey. I don't think Stoudemire's rep has been tarnished to the extent that we couldn't demand Stuckey in return. If no Stuckey, then no deal.

Sheed, Stuckey, and filler is a reasonable offer for Amare, an All Star starter.
 
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I sort of like the Trade... but I haven't checked the salaries but off of memory, Wallace makes $13-15 Million a year (??) which would come off the books or he could be re-signed at near half that price, etc.


Prince was an All-NBA defender, right?? I'd like to see how young he is though... another good passer (I'll have-to check TO's), that can rebound, score, shoot, defend (multiple positions), etc.


Afflalo is a nice defender. REALLY haven't seen him too much in the NBA though...


Back-up PG would probaly need to be addressed though; I'd like to have 3 on Roster.
 

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Stuckey/Sheed/2009 1st for Amare/Dudley/Charlotte 2010

Nash/Stuckey
JRich/Barbs
Hill/Barnes
Sheed/Amudson
Shaq/Lopez

Oldest lineup in history?

AI/Bynum
Rip/Affalo
Prince/Dudley
Amare/Amir Johnson
Maxiell/McDeyss

Not too shabby

FTW
 
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Stuckey WILL NOT be traded to anyone, let alone the Suns. I find it funny that you people think the Pistons would give him up.

I don't think that the Pistons will trade Stuckey either, but that is the deal breaker for me (if he were not included) should the Suns want to trade Amare to Detroit.
 

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if shaq for marion wasn't a win now move, this certainly is. Prince and afflalo are nice, but trading for sheed is essentially saying this year or bust
 

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Amare/Nash for Stuckey/Sheed/Prince/Affalo
 

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^^ yeah, right! then detroit could start nash and a.i in the back court. that's a title-contending back court, for sure! :sarcasm:
 

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Lol. Detroit is not trading Stuckey for anyone they could probably get Amar'e in 2010 if they really wanted him, they have very high hopes for Stuckey on that team and won't let him go let alone trade him. Sheed, Hamilton, and some other reserve is most you can get from them at this point since hamilton just moved on the bench. I doubt they would give up Prince and no way they will give up Stuckey.
 

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^^ yeah, right! then detroit could start nash and a.i in the back court. that's a title-contending back court, for sure! :sarcasm:

Why would they start Nash and AI? Rip would be the SG.
 

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Why would they start Nash and AI? Rip would be the SG.

first of all, i was only pointing out one of the many ridiculous flaws in that trade. Neither nash nor A.I would be good off the bench, but especially nash. Secondly, why would detroit mortgage the two future parts of their team (prince and stuckey) for a point guard that is only good in up tempo scenarious (which they don't play) and a guy who doesn't play any defense (which they do)?

Nash/A.i
Hamilton/Stuckey
Herman?/ ?
Amare/ Johnson
Mcdyess/ Kwame?


that team is even worse than the team they already have, and it's a much older team.

Stuckey is going nowhere, count on that.
 

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I don't mind, I'm not very high on a deal to Detroit anyway.
 

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This trade kills the only future our team has.

Our best bet right now is to bite the bullet and grind it out with this team, get a new coach and wait for Shaq and Nash to come off the books in a year. Then hope for 2-3 high picks in rebuilding seasons and hope to be competetive again when Amare is 30.
 

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Our best bet right now is to bite the bullet and grind it out with this team, get a new coach and wait for Shaq and Nash to come off the books in a year. Then hope for 2-3 high picks in rebuilding seasons and hope to be competetive again when Amare is 30.

That doesn't add up. Stoudemire is 26 and he'll be almost 28 by the summer of 2010. The earliest the Suns could have a high pick is 2011. By the time you have "2-3 high picks" actually contributing, Stoudemire will be 32 or 33 and certainly in decline.

Given that the team has zero young talent at the moment and almost no picks, Stoudemire's window here closes at the same time as O'Neal's and Nash's.
 

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No Sheed for Amare trades. Trade Amare and I will lose half of my interest in watching them play. I hope Sarver and Kerr know what is good for them.$$$
Amare is exciting to watch. Duncan may be better but he is boooooorring. Sheed, hell no.

I agree 100%, amare is one of our best, if not the best player on the suns
 

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we should of got rid of amare for garnett when we had the chance, my how we have paid for that idiotic move. amare is looking more and more like a rookie, scared, losing the ball, turnovers, etc...maybe he is focusing on the ALL STAR game???
 

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we should of got rid of amare for garnett when we had the chance, my how we have paid for that idiotic move. amare is looking more and more like a rookie, scared, losing the ball, turnovers, etc...maybe he is focusing on the ALL STAR game???

We were willing to make that trade but Minnesota preferred Jefferson (smart on their end).
 

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