Should probably trade PP

[DVontel]

Is your account hacked?

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I’ve been banging the table to trade Peterson for maximum value due to him not resigning IMO for months now.

 

[dscher]

Also, for those clamoring for picks after trading known talent, Raider fans would like a word with you about Mack and Cooper

Those two players wouldn't make up for the extreme deficiencies that that raiders team put out there either.. I would argue that team is far more competent than last year. Just like us. Imo

 

[GatorAZ]

He’s good enough to keep but wants out and has said/done things to diminish his trade value. I can see arguments for both sides though

 

[DVontel]

He’s good enough to keep but wants out and has said/done things to diminish his trade value. I can see arguments for both sides though

Bingo.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Correct answer. Give him a 4-year 70 mil contract.

I just don't get this... at all. He's going to be on the wrong side of 31 by the time his next contract comes around, hasn't shown that the PEDs he was on last season (and who knows how long before) were what made him rebound from that super sluggish 2016 season and by the time we're good again, he'd either going to be an old man or not on the team because he obvious harbors A LOT of animosity towards the franchise and probably goes somewhere else.

This kind of thinking reminds me of people not being able to see problems until it's too late because they're clinging to the past... defending Keim after the previous two year's garbage moves, not seeing two years ago that DJ wasn't the same DJ before we gave him his extension, etc. etc.

 

[DVontel]

I could definitely see Keim giving Peterson a 4/70m contract.

 

[GatorAZ]

I just don't get this... at all. He's going to be on the wrong side of 31 by the time his next contract comes around, hasn't shown that the PEDs he was on last season (and who knows how long before) were what made him rebound from that super sluggish 2016 season and by the time we're good again, he'd either going to be an old man or not on the team because he obvious harbors A LOT of animosity towards the franchise and probably goes somewhere else.

This kind of thinking reminds me of people not being able to see problems until it's too late because they're clinging to the past... defending Keim after the previous two year's garbage moves, not seeing two years ago that DJ wasn't the same DJ before we gave him his extension, etc. etc.

Good point considering he knew what he took was illegal and got busted trying to mask it. You can’t exactly write it off as an honest mistake.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Also, for those clamoring for picks after trading known talent, Raider fans would like a word with you about Mack and Cooper

Would they trade Carr for PP21?


#blasphemy

 

[Cheesebeef]

Also, for those clamoring for picks after trading known talent, Raider fans would like a word with you about Mack and Cooper

do you not see the MASSIVE difference between PP who's 29 and coming off being busted for performance enhancers and Mack and Cooper who were both 25 years old and not even in their prime?

Again, PP is going to 31 by the end of his deal, he has shown a ton of animosity against the team and we don't know whether his bounce back from a sluggish 2016 was because of PEDs. His situation is NOTHING like Mack and Cooper, both of which were super young, neither of which had PED issues.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Peterson will be a stud for probably the next four years... go ahead and play stupid guys and talk about trading him

 

[DVontel]

Peterson will be a stud for probably the next four years... go ahead and play stupid guys and talk about trading him

Yup, with them 2-3 being on another team after he leaves us.

 

[Jasper]

Truth is I don’t think he will resign with us. If not we will have no choice but to trade him at the end of the season.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Look guys, trading Peterson or Johnson is not the answer because they are actually part of the solution... it's the damn draft picks which make up the majority of a teams' success which is about Keim going into full blown Al Davis and the measurables component

 

[sr7706]

The Seahawks shipped Sherman off at the right time, albeit from injury, I believe we are going to do the same with PP. I'm predicting a second round pick. When is the last time a guy over 30/CB, was traded for a first round pick...

 

[swagron]

Peterson will be a stud for probably the next four years... go ahead and play stupid guys and talk about trading him

They won 3 games with him last year

 

[Jetstream Green]

They won 3 games with him last year

Cool, then we should have traded Fitz many times over in the past too by that logic in a team sport

 

[Cheesebeef]

Peterson will be a stud for probably the next four years... go ahead and play stupid guys and talk about trading him

stupid would be listening to the same people who couldn't see Keim was a disaster TWO years ago and couldn't see the obvious changes in DJ until this season even though the red flags were there during Game 1 of the 2017 season and then were everywhere from the start of last season.

stop living in the past and use just a LITTLE foresight for once.

 

[kerouac9]

I think Peterson could be a transcendent safety in the last two years of a four-year extension. Need to see him play back first, though.

 

[DVontel]

I think Peterson could be a transcendent safety in the last two years of a four-year extension. Need to see him play back first, though.

Be honest.

What is the percentage you give Peterson resigning with us?

 

[kerouac9]

Be honest.

What is the percentage you give Peterson resigning with us?

80. For whatever reason, Chandler Jones hasn’t inspired the fan base, and Peterson remains the franchises best draft pick since Fitz. He’s a charismatic dude; I wouldn’t be surprised if he has the ear of Michael Bidwill, too.

 

[Rohinaz]

Have you seen how we have struggled on every facet of d this year?

So trading away the top cb in the league will help? Every team in the nfl is desperate for pass rushers and shut down cbs. Peterson is one of the very very few cbs that will follow at wr1 around the field because he is dominant.

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[b8rtm8nn]

80. For whatever reason, Chandler Jones hasn’t inspired the fan base, and Peterson remains the franchises best draft pick since Fitz. He’s a charismatic dude; I wouldn’t be surprised if he has the ear of Michael Bidwill, too.

If he has MB's ear, maybe he can get rid of Keim.

 

[Rohinaz]

Yea, maybe that team throws in a 6th & a 2021 4th as well.

He’s not fetching a 1st & a 2nd. He’s not Jalen Ramsey. He’s not 24 in his prime.

Take that offer in a hurry if someone does it.

Hopefully, it’s a different GM making those picks.

Hes not Jalen ramsey, he is a much better. Threads like this drive me crazy. Hes a HOF football players. Hes 1 pro bowl appearance for most in nfl history.
You extend him. We will have plenty of $ to rebuild the rest of the d around peterson and jones.


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[Rohinaz]

They won 3 games with him last year

Yea, we asked the top shutdown cb to play zone. Same reason why ramsey asked to be traded, it's a waste to play the guy in a zone.

We also tried to play a 4 3 with a front 7 designed for a 3 4 last year. It was dumb.

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[dscher]

So trading away the top cb in the league will help? Every team in the nfl is desperate for pass rushers and shut down cbs. Peterson is one of the very very few cbs that will follow at wr1 around the field because he is dominant.

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The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. That's what comes to mind with successful teams compared to meddling teams. Imo.