Should the Cardinals Trade Down?

[AZCrazy]

Vita Vea was the other NT taken in the top ten, just last year. Jury still out on him.
Bosa is a pass rusher without question, whether a DE or OLB, just line him up and get out of the way. He would fit fine.

You can't really go wrong if you stay in the top five. All defensive dominators there. Ed Oliver may end up being the best of the bunch.

If the Giants are eager to trade up to get Haskins, they can save a lot of draft picks just by giving us #6 for Rosen. He's better than Haskins and fits their mold to a T.

 

[BACH]

chris_sanders
Obviously the million dollar question for Bosa is can he play 3-4 OLB?
In my opinion, I think he could (maybe), but would never live up to the hype the media has surrounded him with. Bosa is a much better fit in a 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB whereas Josh Allen is the exact opposite
How far? Probably within the first round and a early second

This is my thinking as Well. Trade down to 4 and take Allen while picking out one of the Raiders’ late first rounders and Maybe next year’s 2nd rounder.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I know everybody hates on me for this but..
Murray: better quaterbacks available in future drafts
Bosa: not a scheme fit
Williams: not a scheme fit/ I don’t see a place on the roster for him, but tremendous respect for him nevertheless

Best take some time to familiarize yourself with 3-4 concepts. Both Bosa and Williams can be integrated effectively into a 3-4 hybrid, which is what we will be running.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Vita Vea was the other NT taken in the top ten, just last year. Jury still out on him.
Bosa is a pass rusher without question, whether a DE or OLB, just line him up and get out of the way. He would fit fine.

You can't really go wrong if you stay in the top five. All defensive dominators there. Ed Oliver may end up being the best of the bunch.

If the Giants are eager to trade up to get Haskins, they can save a lot of draft picks just by giving us #6 for Rosen. He's better than Haskins and fits their mold to a T.

So Rosen is better than Haskins and Haskins is higher rated than KM by most observers, so we should give up the highest rated for the third?

That's the ticket!

 

[GuernseyCard]

This is my thinking as Well. Trade down to 4 and take Allen while picking out one of the Raiders’ late first rounders and Maybe next year’s 2nd rounder.

Nobody is trading up for KM, so how do you end up with Allen at #4?

 

[Harry]

@fartblossom
@Harry
Would Williams play Nose Tackle?

He’s an outstanding athlete who uses his agility & quickness to maneuver would be blockers. As such he could play inside or out. I’d experiment with him in both places. You could even play him outside then move him inside onpassing downs. He’d get penetration.

 

[Ronin]

Raiders might not trade up.

Bob McManaman
@azbobbymac
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"Yeah, he's going to be our quarterback." Raiders coach Jon Gruden on Derek Carr.

 

[overseascardfan]

Answer is maybe. If ARZ either wants Murray or wants someone other than Bosa then it’s yes. Murray will drop past #3 ARZ passes on him as Bosa, Williams & Allen go Top 3 if ARZ trades down, so if ARZ wants Allen they can’t drop past OAK as NYJ make most sense for Allen if Bosa and Williams are gone.

 

[Kai]

Best take some time to familiarize yourself with 3-4 concepts. Both Bosa and Williams can be integrated effectively into a 3-4 hybrid, which is what we will be running.

If you know so much about 3-4 scheme why don’t you explain to me how they fit?
BTW I’m a former football player so I know a thing or two about schemes and whatnot

 

[GuernseyCard]

If you know so much about 3-4 scheme why don’t you explain to me how they fit?
BTW I’m a former football player so I know a thing or two about schemes and whatnot

Evidently not in a 3-4 or you weren't paying attention.

 

[Kai]

If you know so much about 3-4 scheme why don’t you explain to me how they fit?

Avoiding the question much?

 

[GuernseyCard]

Avoiding the question much?

Feel no need to impress you, rookie.

 

[thightower34]

Yes


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[Kai]

Feel no need to impress you, rookie.

I registered less than two weeks ago boi

 

[GuernseyCard]

I registered less than two weeks ago boi

Good on you, newby!

 

[Kai]

Good on you, newby!

Thanks, I really appreciate the complement

 

[Ronin]

I didn't know where else to put this.

JP Finlay‏Verified account @JPFinlayNBCS 27m27 minutes ago
Gruden says Redskins scouted Josh Rosen last year and he’s a good player but the coach says there’s nothing to talk about with Rosen because he’s not available.

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 5m5 minutes ago
From talking to #Redskins coach Jay Gruden, the Skins are going to take a hard look at the top QBs. They’ll bring them in for visits and consider taking the right one at 15. That adds an intriguing dynamic.

 

[BigRedRage]

Nobody is trading up for KM, so how do you end up with Allen at #4?

If we are 4 and it goes bosa, Williams, Allen...you get Oliver.

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[SissyBoyFloyd]

One thing we haven't discussed yet is the Cards moving up.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

BO could do any damn thing he wanted.

He was BO!

No one else like him before or since either you want to talk generationally talent that is where it starts and ends just really bad his his body wore out before he did

 

[Veer]

If we are 4 and it goes bosa, Williams, Allen...you get Oliver.

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Wrong. Because in this case we pick Murray at #4, and address DL with the late 1st from the Raiders or our early 2nd.

 

[BigRedRage]

Wrong. Because in this case we pick Murray at #4, and address DL with the late 1st from the Raiders or our early 2nd.

I like that you state I am wrong and then back it up with nothing but opinion.

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[BigRedRage]

One thing we haven't discussed yet is the Cards moving up.

A scout mentioned it in flight plan, have me a chuckle.

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[TJ]

I think if the Raiders or Giants call, you trade up, because they have enough capital this year to move up to #1. Going from 1 to, say, 15 without a crap load of compensation would be tough. At that point, I just say take Williams or Bosa and not overthink the situation.