SI article on Josh Rosen and him being traded

[CardLogic]

Hard to give the front office much benefit of doubt in this whole situation when you consider the reports coming out. Also, when you consider that the Cardinals spent $33M on Bradford, Rosen and Glennon and none of them are even on the team now...can't say I have much faith in them until proven otherwise.

Last season for the Cardinals has to be one of the all time worst, for any team; EVER! Complete FUBAR cluster!

It can only go up from here; right?

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[Krangodnzr]

Not a single reasonable person thinks Keim handled this situation correctly except for people on this board. The fact of the matter is teams were reported to be offering 2nd rounders for Rosen before the draft. Once again leverage, leverage, leverage. Here one more time so maybe it will sink in. Leverage.

The fact of the matter is Murray refused to agree to baseball clauses, already harming the team before he is even on it. Then once the entitled brat learned they would pass he agreed. 5 teams tried trading for Josh. Miami caved and gave up a 2nd (really a 3rd) but could have easily waited for 3rd or 4th. And there was nothing Keim could do about it. Please stop deflecting and sucking Keim off. Rosen is a grown man and has more class in his pinky then Kyler ever will.

That being said I am rooting for Murray to be great. I really truly hope all you Murray jock riders are right and will be ecstatic to be proven wrong and eat crow. However if Rosen, with a chip on his shoulder the size of the grand canyon flourishes and Murray busts, you, me or anyone else that roots for the cardinals will never live it down. It will be the worst draft pick of all time by an extremely wide margin.

Considering the now months worth of dumb poo I've read on this board, this is nearly the most inane.

Trade your starting QB BEFORE you have your new one? What happens when pictures of Murray molesting kids comes out? You can't trade your starter until the next QB is already in hand.

 

[BigRedRage]

Considering the now months worth of dumb **** I've read on this board, this is nearly the most inane.

Trade your starting QB BEFORE you have your new one? What happens when pictures of Murray molesting kids comes out? You can't trade your starter until the next QB is already in hand.

crap...he molests kids? I knew we shouldnt have drafted him.

 

[TRW]

Considering the now months worth of dumb **** I've read on this board, this is nearly the most inane.

Trade your starting QB BEFORE you have your new one? What happens when pictures of Murray molesting kids comes out? You can't trade your starter until the next QB is already in hand.

C'mon man! Molesting kids? That is way uncalled for IMO. That is just wrong! You can make your point in a more reasonable way than that!

 

[Cheesebeef]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...he-dolphins-brett-favre-ravens-transformation

man... wouldn't that just be the thing to magnify the fact that Cardinals are cursed!

 

[AZCB34]

C'mon man! Molesting kids? That is way uncalled for IMO. That is just wrong! You can make your point in a more reasonable way than that!

But it was always a possibility. What would be better that you would approve of?

He drives 6 miles over the posted limit?
He leaves the shopping cart in lot instead of putting it in the cart corrall?
He doesn't give back the overage when he is given too much change back?

Unclench and understand the point Krang is making.

 

[TRW]

But it was always a possibility. What would be better that you would approve of?

He drives 6 miles over the posted limit?
He leaves the shopping cart in lot instead of putting it in the cart corrall?
He doesn't give back the overage when he is given too much change back?

Unclench and understand the point Krang is making.

Oh I understand the point. It’s just an inappropriate one IMO. You see no problem with it that’s your choice.

 

[Krangodnzr]

C'mon man! Molesting kids? That is way uncalled for IMO. That is just wrong! You can make your point in a more reasonable way than that!

Ooooook Chief. I'll check with the thought police next time I post.

 

[Azlen]

I have to feel for Rosen if he is reading the way too early mock drafts like this one.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...take-justin-herbert-three-wrs-land-in-top-10/

They have Miami taking Tagovalloa with the number one pick. It would be historic for a QB to lead two teams to the number one pick in successive years.

 

[TRW]

Ooooook Chief. I'll check with the thought police next time I post.

Nah. Just a thing that hits close to home. I find no humor in it or justification for it to be used to make a point. You post whatever the Mods allow. No problem.

I am far from the “thought police” on this board.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm so glad I barely read this part of the board anymore. the fights between the pro and anti-Murray folks has become beyond tedious.

 

[dscher]

I'm so glad I barely read this part of the board anymore. the fights between the pro and anti-Murray folks has become beyond tedious.

First real time spent on the board posting and what not....and id have to agree.. and I was, obviously, about as pro Murray as you could get. But hey, to each their own... We all do things in our own way.

 

[Cheesebeef]

First real time spent on the board posting and what not....and id have to agree.. and I was, obviously, about as pro Murray as you could get. But hey, to each their own... We all do things in our own way.

the annoying this is how PERSONAL this argument gets in the blink of an eye.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I really don’t give a rip at this point. I am in Canada at an event wearing a Cardinals polo and a Canadian engaged me in discussion about how stupid the pick was. I am moving on

 

[Krangodnzr]

I really don’t give a rip at this point. I am in Canada at an event wearing a Cardinals polo and a Canadian engaged me in discussion about how stupid the pick was. I am moving on

Did you tell him that Canada is the most milque toast country in the world? America Jr.?

 

[TJ]

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If true, this is an awful look for Steve Keim. What a coward.

 

[GatorAZ]

Always thought there was the possibility that they weren’t in love with Rosen but had to trade up because he was the only one of the big-4 left after Allen went 7th. After getting jumped for Watson and Mahomes they couldn’t miss out again.

The way Josh handled himself you think would’ve earned some better treatment from the front office throughout the process.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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If true, this is an awful look for Steve Keim. What a coward.

Agree. And not surprised. Keim seems like a giant douche to me. Could be happily wrong.

 

[blindseyed]

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If true, this is an awful look for Steve Keim. What a coward.

It's hard to be honest before that 4th shot I guess

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

But it was always a possibility. What would be better that you would approve of?

He drives 6 miles over the posted limit?
He leaves the shopping cart in lot instead of putting it in the cart corrall?
He doesn't give back the overage when he is given too much change back?

Unclench and understand the point Krang is making.

He isnt insured by Geico what a crime

 

[Dante]

Absolutely classless by Keim if true.

 

[az jam]

Player relationships are with each other and the coaches not front office personnel. It's a business and not everyone who is in the front office is people oriented. They don't have to be.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

There is a reason so many former players are mad at the front office...

 

[TJ]

There is a reason so many former players are mad at the front office...

And PP21.

Aside from the Bidwills, the only constant in this franchise has been Keim. Can't imagine his leash is very long w/ Michael B.

 

[TJ]

Player relationships are with each other and the coaches not front office personnel. It's a business and not everyone who is in the front office is people oriented. They don't have to be.

With your top-end players, the GM most definitely should be front and center with his players, especially when the new HC has only been with the team for a few months.