Skattebo’s Big Moment

[cardsfanmd]

Rd 4 or below? Fine. Otherwise, no thank you. And LOL at the "Benson sucks, Scat is a hero!" stuff. Just LOL

Yeah, I don’t get the vitriol for Benson. Barring injury, me thinks the kid flashed last year and will make people choke on their dismissal of him this year.

 

[Russ Smith]

And the same time I was watching the Marv videos I saw one on Skattebo that says they think 4th round is more likely than 3rd, that there were concerns about his 40 even though he actually ran faster than expected but his 20 is what had people more concerned I guess for RB's that's sort of becoming the new thing they look at because it's the ability to hit the hole and go that they value

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

And the same time I was watching the Marv videos I saw one on Skattebo that says they think 4th round is more likely than 3rd, that there were concerns about his 40 even though he actually ran faster than expected but his 20 is what had people more concerned I guess for RB's that's sort of becoming the new thing they look at because it's the ability to hit the hole and go that they value

10 yard split and the shuttle are much better indicators, for sure.

 

[Phrazbit]

Analysts are pretty high on Skattebo so I'm not sure why so many people here think he's going to be practice squad fodder. I didnt go to the Arizona schools, I'm assuming the disdain is mainly UA grads who are upset about him being an ASU player?

A lot of this thread reminds me of when UT grads thought Myles Garrett was going to be bad in the pros.

Reminds me more of Eno Benjamin.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Reminds me more of Eno Benjamin.

That's pretty crazy, seriously. Wager that he has a better career than Eno?

 

[Phrazbit]

That's pretty crazy, seriously. Wager that he has a better career than Eno?

Eno basically didn't have a career, so that is a low bar, but I think the level of over hype on this forum, entirely because he played for ASU, tracks right along.

His college success was based on running through arm tackles, he isn't elusive, nor is he fast, he is also not big. That combination of traits, IMO, will add up to a total non-factor in the NFL.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Eno basically didn't have a career, so that is a low bar, but I think the level of over hype on this forum, entirely because he played for ASU, tracks right along.

His college success was based on running through arm tackles, he isn't elusive, nor is he fast, he is also not big. That combination of traits, IMO, will add up to a total non-factor in the NFL.

Wager?

 

[Phrazbit]

Wager?

On what? I am not going to bet that he fails to beat out Eno's 300 something career yards, but I'd wager he never has a season of more than... 700.

Or that by his 4th season he will be on a roster besides the one that drafted him... or be out of the league entirely.

I'd certainly wager that he hype on this forum is entirely because of his college. Don't know how you'd quantify that, but I'd bet that if you took all the top forum from each team's fan base, he has been talked about here more than on all the other forums combined.

Hell, he is the most talked about player in this draft on THIS forum by a gargantuan margin. This thread is rapidly catching up to the thread on Marvin Harrison.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Eno basically didn't have a career, so that is a low bar, but I think the level of over hype on this forum, entirely because he played for ASU, tracks right along.

His college success was based on running through arm tackles, he isn't elusive, nor is he fast, he is also not big. That combination of traits, IMO, will add up to a total non-factor in the NFL.

Do you follow any of the national draftniks? Skattebo gets a lot of mention.

I think Murray is right that if just draft good football players, you'll have a good team. I think it was Brett Kollman who was saying the same thing when he was talking about Shemar Stewart (who isn't really a good football player).

 

[Ronin]

RB Cam Skattebo has visited with Browns, Cardinals, Giants

Running back Cam Skattebo had a big year to lead Arizona State to the College Football Playoff.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Phrazbit]

Do you follow any of the national draftniks? Skattebo gets a lot of mention.

I think Murray is right that if just draft good football players, you'll have a good team. I think it was Brett Kollman who was saying the same thing when he was talking about Shemar Stewart (who isn't really a good football player).

Well, you certainly don’t want to draft players that were bad, like Anthony Richardson.

But also, sometimes the skills that work for a guy in college are unlikely to translate, no matter how good he was at the college level.

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[GatorAZ]

I believe Skat has the burst and lateral agility to bust thru the 2nd level but he seems to hit a snag after 10 yards. If we’re talking about a late day two/early day three pick it’s shouldn’t be a hang up. He also had nearly 900 yards receiving in two years.

 

[football karma]

maybe a really good old school Cardinal comp for Skatt:

Larry Centers. Amazing ability to stay on his feet, great short area shiftiness -- and a premier 3rd down back. Clearly lacked breakaway speed but had a productive career

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[Cheesebeef]

maybe a really good old school Cardinal comp for Skatt:

Larry Centers. Amazing ability to stay on his feet, great short area shiftiness -- and a premier 3rd down back. Clearly lacked breakaway speed but had a productive career

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Centers really only had a “productive” career because of the complete absence of talent on offense. He did nothing to move the needle as an offensive player. Being able to get 7 yards on 3rd and 15 checkdowns isn’t much of an accomplishment, IMO.

And he couldn’t run the ball effectively. If we’re drafting Skatt in the first four rounds, he’s got to be able to run the ball.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

If we’re drafting Skatt in the first four rounds, he’s got to be able to run the ball.

I wouldn't draft him before the 4th round, but I think he's more likely than most 4th rounders to make some sort of impact.

 

[Absolute Zero]

As an out of stater I really didn't understand the full dynamics of ASU vs. UoA. UoA, how in the world did you let the small state school be the historically dominant one????? Better win percentage AND 18 conference championships to 6? 49-7 last meeting? You lost 70-7 in 2020?

I understand this thread completely now.

You had me at 70-7.

A phrase that really should be repeated as much as possible. Such a nice ring to it.

 

[Mainstreet]

Reminds me more of Eno Benjamin.

I don't think Eno Benjamin took five top 30 visits.

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[football karma]

Centers really only had a “productive” career because of the complete absence of talent on offense. He did nothing to move the needle as an offensive player. Being able to get 7 yards on 3rd and 15 checkdowns isn’t much of an accomplishment, IMO.

And he couldn’t run the ball effectively. If we’re drafting Skatt in the first four rounds, he’s got to be able to run the ball.

i wont stand for the Larry Centers slander!!

Centers was in the league for 14 years! a niche / specialist player no doubt, but a really good one at the role -- you dont last that long on hollow stats

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't think Eno Benjamin took five top 30 visits.

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Eno and Skattebo shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. I think people are forgetting some of the huge games he had last year, not just running the football, but catching the football as well.

Skattebo has been underrated before and he proved people wrong.

But I wouldn't advocate for picking him before round 3 because he doesn't check EVERY box and the Cardinals have a pretty good RB room right now.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Well, you certainly don’t want to draft players that were bad, like Anthony Richardson.

But also, sometimes the skills that work for a guy in college are unlikely to translate, no matter how good he was at the college level.

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I think this is a pretty lousy comp though. Tebow was below average as a college passer, but had pretty damn good physical skills, so in essence he wasn't a very good football player at his actual primary position.

 

[oaken1]

maybe a really good old school Cardinal comp for Skatt:

Larry Centers. Amazing ability to stay on his feet, great short area shiftiness -- and a premier 3rd down back. Clearly lacked breakaway speed but had a productive career

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LARRY! LARRY!LARRY!LARRY!
I can still hear the crowd......

 

[Cheesebeef]

i wont stand for the Larry Centers slander!!

Centers was in the league for 14 years! a niche / specialist player no doubt, but a really good one at the role -- you dont last that long on hollow stats

You do on offenses as bad as ours were.

 

[Harry]

I think this is a pretty lousy comp though. Tebow was below average as a college passer, but had pretty damn good physical skills, so in essence he wasn't a very good football player at his actual primary position.

i know I’m a Contrarian on this but I believe Tebow could have succeeded if the NFL wasn’t so set its way. I’d be curious to see, for example, how he’d do with a run first team like the Cardinals. He was fine on short throws and not easy on pass rushers. Teams found him hard to prep for as their scout teams really couldn’t accurately emulate him. His team would have had trouble with a backup QB who could effectively run the offense if Tebow was injured. No team wanted to completely revamp the offense and rebuild it around a runner. Of course the Cards have a line skilled in pulling and getting them in front of Tebow would have been a challenge for any defense. I suppose they would have pulled up both safeties, but Tebow wasn’t terrible on medium tree routes. It was considered a big risk to wholly change an offense, so no team did. I think it would have been fun.

 

[DVontel]

I’m still wondering how many pages Tet McMillan would have by now if he went to ASU.

And would Skat even had a thread dedicated to him if he went to UoA

 

[Mainstreet]

You had me at 70-7.

A phrase that really should be repeated as much as possible. Such a nice ring to it.

The Sun Devils have been on the other end of some lopsided scores as well.