Skelton fine - low ankle sprain

[Phrazbit]

Sprains and breaks are funny things pain wise. As a youth I was 'fortunate' enough to experience plenty of both. I broke my ankle once, not a serious fracture but it was broken, I thought it was a mild sprain. I had a couple sprains that I thought for sure were broken. And breaking your fibula (as long as you dont dislocate your ankle or break your tibia at the same time) hardly hurts at all.

However, breaking a femur... good lord, I broke mine to pieces when I was 14, and it was horrible. There might be more painful things you can do to yourself, but I cant imagine hurting worse, then that dude one the Vikings broke his against us a couple years ago it made me want to throw up.

 

[RedRob]

Sprain Pain

For those who have experienced multiple sprains you know that there are sprains you can bounce back up from and walk off the field (or court) and then there are the dreaded sprains where you expect to look down and see your foot completely severed from your leg.

His obviously looked like the 2nd variety - and if that's the case there's no way he'll be ready next week and probably more like 6 weeks+.

As mentioned there are breaks in the ankle/foot area that don't hurt near as bad as a sprain - just a guess but I'm betting Skelton can handle pain as good as most on here.

The most likely scenario is Kolb will have enough time to either justify becoming the starter or stink it up bad enough that Whiz will be standing over the shoulder of John's physical therapist.

 

[jmt]

The most likely scenario is Kolb will have enough time to either justify becoming the starter or stink it up bad enough that Whiz will be standing over the shoulder of John's physical therapist.

I agree.

 

[Dr. Jones]

This is one of the most rapid changes in news ever. lol

From an air cast to the cart, to all of the players wishing him well. Then the next day.... He could play this week.

 

[Duckjake]

This is one of the most rapid changes in news ever. lol

From an air cast to the cart, to all of the players wishing him well. Then the next day.... He could play this week.

It was all a ruse so Whisenhunt could sub in Kolb to run the hurry up offense without the negative ramifications of simply pulling Skelton and sending in Kolb. Fans were booing Kevin as it was. Imagine what it would have been like if it had been just a substitution. CKW is a genius.

 

[Dr. Jones]

lol.


Everyone needs to remember. He played like crap the entire half but...... If it wasn't for that perfect throw on 3rd down (when he got hurt) Kolb wouldn't have had a chance to have his moment.

They need each other.

 

[Shane]

It was all a ruse so Whisenhunt could sub in Kolb to run the hurry up offense without the negative ramifications of simply pulling Skelton and sending in Kolb. Fans were booing Kevin as it was. Imagine what it would have been like if it had been just a substitution. CKW is a genius.

:engineer:

 

[RugbyMuffin]

GREAT question---the thing is, as evidenced by 6 come from behind wins under his belt---the hurry-up is Skelton's bread and butter too.

The Cardinals' conventional offense is QB unfriendly---it's too calculated and exacting---and it DOESN'T SUIT any QBs.

FTFY

 

[DutchmanAZ]

He's out 2 - 4 weeks
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/09/11/john-skelton-ankle/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a8

 

[Dr. Jones]

FYI....I think we are about to lose two in a row.... And Kolb is just part of the reason.

NE - Loss.
Philly - Revenge loss

 

[Cheesebeef]

Well, Kolb now has his definitive shot to prove something again. We weren't going to win this week no matter who was under center, but the schedule after that has very winnable games, starting with Philly.

 

[john h]

Wow!!!

thought he was done

they are reporting he may play Sunday vs. NE

I think you have to start Kolb after the best play of his carreer on that drive. Let us see if that was just an illusion or was that the new and real Kolb. I know I have read that a starter should not lose his job because of an injury but this to me is a very special case. Skelton was not exactly John Elway when he was in there. I also think it is unlikely he would be fully recovered from a high ankle sprain in only one week and be able to practice during this week. That being said I would be surprised to see him named as the starter in any case. What I want to know is Kevin Kolb the guy we saw Sunday who stood in the pocket and fired bullets to precise spots for our receivers? From all the love Skelton received from his team when he went down he obviously is a team favorite.

 

[john h]

Kolb ran a great series. It was the hurry up and he executed. IMO this is still Skeltons team. He played very well in the first half. I hope he can coma back this Sunday but I doubt it.

I hope we can compete this week with N.E. Defensively I think we can. Without the O-line blocking we don't have a run game. That hurts. But I regress.

GBR
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We also need a new running scheme for our runners and blockers. What we were doing when running clearly was not working and we repeated it over and over. Lets get a little innovative please. Try passing on first down for a change and not run it up the gut.

 

[52brandon]

We also need a new running scheme for our runners and blockers. What we were doing when running clearly was not working and we repeated it over and over. Lets get a little innovative please. Try passing on first down for a change and not run it up the gut.

this. So much this. We got crushed trying to run the ball. Something needs to change there

 

[desertdawg]

We also need a new running scheme for our runners and blockers. What we were doing when running clearly was not working and we repeated it over and over. Lets get a little innovative please. Try passing on first down for a change and not run it up the gut.

They won't be bringing in any new schemes for the run game. Whiz was saying yesterday our run game was lacking because of one guy missing a block each time. I personally think they just worked so dang much on pass protection (understandable right?), that the run blocking suffered. Probably flip again this week. Not to mention the 8 man front wasn't having it, they aint gonna go back to the drawing board bruddah. And passing on first down is what we are trying to get away from, if (when) it fails, your kinda forced to pass the remainder of downs until you get another firstdown. With a decent rush on firstdown, all kinds of options open up. Keep running it on first, and then surprise their defense with a pass on first.

 

[Shane]

They won't be bringing in any new schemes for the run game. Whiz was saying yesterday our run game was lacking because of one guy missing a block each time. I personally think they just worked so dang much on pass protection (understandable right?), that the run blocking suffered. Probably flip again this week. Not to mention the 8 man front wasn't having it, they aint gonna go back to the drawing board bruddah. And passing on first down is what we are trying to get away from, if (when) it fails, your kinda forced to pass the remainder of downs until you get another firstdown. With a decent rush on firstdown, all kinds of options open up. Keep running it on first, and then surprise their defense with a pass on first.

What's a bruddah?

 

[desertdawg]

What's a bruddah?

In this case it would be a fellow fan, skillet.

 

[az1965]

Coach Ken Whisenhunt said this morning that the Cardinals got good news and that quarterback John Skelton not only doesn’t have a fracture but just a low ankle sprain, not the dreaded high ankle sprain. Because of that, Whisenhunt wouldn’t even rule Skelton out for New England Sunday. Whiz wouldn’t put any timetable on Skelton’s recovery, although he did say he does not expect to bring in another quarterback at this point. Asked about Skelton being the starter when he returns, Whisenhunt said “I don’t even know why that would be a question.”

so which one is correct... here coach is not ruling him out of NE game, although I doubt he plays but 2-4 weeks?

Also, coach is pretty clear on who the start will be when Skelton returns.

 

[desertdawg]

so which one is correct... here coach is not ruling him out of NE game, although I doubt he plays but 2-4 weeks?

Also, coach is pretty clear on who the start will be when Skelton returns.

Kolb's getting the start this week because of injury, and I think Whiz's coach speak is saying he doesn't know what will be happening by the time Skelton is healthy. He's basically leaving everything open, because he can't predict the future. I got no problem with it.

 

[az1965]

I don't read it that way... he is clearly saying why should that be even a question, obviously Skelton will be the starter. Coach has said many time before that he does not believe in anyone losing his job due to injury.

 

[desertdawg]

I don't read it that way... he is clearly saying why should that be even a question, obviously Skelton will be the starter. Coach has said many time before that he does not believe in anyone losing his job due to injury.

I understand what you are saying. I think that if Kolb plays extremely well for the next 3-4 weeks, it might take a "little longer" for Skelton's ankle to "fully" heal. If Kolb blows chunks, I'd imagine Skelton being rushed back into playing. That way Whiz can keep face without losing pace.

 

[Duckjake]

They won't be bringing in any new schemes for the run game. Whiz was saying yesterday our run game was lacking because of one guy missing a block each time. I personally think they just worked so dang much on pass protection (understandable right?), that the run blocking suffered. Probably flip again this week. Not to mention the 8 man front wasn't having it, they aint gonna go back to the drawing board bruddah. And passing on first down is what we are trying to get away from, if (when) it fails, your kinda forced to pass the remainder of downs until you get another firstdown. With a decent rush on firstdown, all kinds of options open up. Keep running it on first, and then surprise their defense with a pass on first.

The Cards offensive line was good at having one guy miss on almost every play last season. It was eerie watching the replays. Colledge would miss. Then on the next play it would be Brown. Then Hadnot. It's like they had a rotation going.

The real reason the Cards run blocking suffered Sunday? Too many posts on ASFN claiming our line was better at run blocking.