Skelton Starting Sunday?

[Cbus cardsfan]

did anyone watch Tyler Wilson last night? He had 2 sure TD's dropped. He's the real deal. Strong arm, mobile, accurate. I'll take him over any QB, other than Luck, and that's starting to change. There's not a throw Wilson can't make.

 

[Pariah]

did anyone watch Tyler Wilson last night? He had 2 sure TD's dropped. He's the real deal. Strong arm, mobile, accurate. I'll take him over any QB, other than Luck, and that's starting to change. There's not a throw Wilson can't make.

Unfortunately, I think outside of Luck there's no way we take a QB at the top of the draft next year.

I'm hoping it becomes a moot point after Skelton shows he has the goods today. (I know, I know...I'm borderline disillusion. What do you expect; I'm a cardinals fan. It's how I get through the day).

 

[52brandon]

Unfortunately, I think outside of Luck there's no way we take a QB at the top of the draft next year.

I'm hoping it becomes a moot point after Skelton shows he has the goods today. (I know, I know...I'm borderline disillusion. What do you expect; I'm a cardinals fan. It's how I get through the day).

Kalil should be our guy in the 2012 draft. No question



as far as Skelton, I would have preferred to see Kolb out there getting more reps just because he's supposed to be our future, but oh well. I'm behind whoever we've got in there. Go Skelton

 

[john h]

That's a huge IF right there. QBs that can make all the throws are a dime a dozen. Now a QB that can read a defense... that's something special.
From what I've seen so far, Skelton has shown nothing when it comes to reading and reacting to a defense. I guess it will be interesting to see if he has improved in that area but I'm not holding my breath.

A QB that can remain calm under pressure is a definite requirement. None of us can see inside a guys head and know what is going on when he sees a 270 lb DE in his face. If you tend to panic then you will forever have problems. Guys like this are hard to find and that is why we have so few really good QBs in the NFL. You cannot measure this in practice as you are not going to have your QB killed by his own players. You can look at college film but the players QBs face in college are not the best in the world. This is why a #1 QB pick in the draft is one of the largest gambles in pro sports. As one who taught pilots how to fly I found that no matter how smart or athletic a guy was there had to be a sense of confidence and no fear if your were ever going to be a combat pilot and survive. After a while when working with student pilots I could begin to recognize little signals that indicated fear or anxiety that could not be overcome. Some of the smartest people you would ever meet like engineers from Ivy League schools lacked that certain something that would allow them to be a pilot much less a fighter pilot. Todays pilots are almost systems engineers aside from flying the aircraft. Some guys quickly recognize that flying is not for them and quickly resign. Some stay a little to long and die.

A QB to me is sort of like a fighter pilot. On paper and in college he may appear to have all the tools and brains it takes. But put him up against the best defenders in the world who are bigger, faster, smarter than the guys he played against in college and the entire game changes.

I am sorry to see Kolb or any of our guys get hurt. One day the starting first baseman for the New York Yankees was hurt and in came a young man to replace him named Lou Gehrig. I doubt Skelton will be a Lou Gehrig but he may just be much better than Kolb. We all want to know what we have in this young man. I think an injury to Kolb was the only way he was going to get a start this year as I fear our coaches lacks what it takes to embarrass who ever selected Kolb. Our QB Max Hall seemed to show a lot of fear when you looked into his eyes behind the center. It seemed to me that Whiz making Hall the #2 over Skelton was really not very smart for a head coach. Of course I did not attend all the practices and Whiz knows a lot more about football than me.

 

[Buckybird]

A QB that can remain calm under pressure is a definite requirement. None of us can see inside a guys head and know what is going on when he sees a 270 lb DE in his face. If you tend to panic then you will forever have problems. Guys like this are hard to find and that is why we have so few really good QBs in the NFL. You cannot measure this in practice as you are not going to have your QB killed by his own players. You can look at college film but the players QBs face in college are not the best in the world. This is why a #1 QB pick in the draft is one of the largest gambles in pro sports. As one who taught pilots how to fly I found that no matter how smart or athletic a guy was there had to be a sense of confidence and no fear if your were ever going to be a combat pilot and survive. After a while when working with student pilots I could begin to recognize little signals that indicated fear or anxiety that could not be overcome. Some of the smartest people you would ever meet like engineers from Ivy League schools lacked that certain something that would allow them to be a pilot much less a fighter pilot. Todays pilots are almost systems engineers aside from flying the aircraft. Some guys quickly recognize that flying is not for them and quickly resign. Some stay a little to long and die.

A QB to me is sort of like a fighter pilot. On paper and in college he may appear to have all the tools and brains it takes. But put him up against the best defenders in the world who are bigger, faster, smarter than the guys he played against in college and the entire game changes.

I am sorry to see Kolb or any of our guys get hurt. One day the starting first baseman for the New York Yankees was hurt and in came a young man to replace him named Lou Gehrig. I doubt Skelton will be a Lou Gehrig but he may just be much better than Kolb. We all want to know what we have in this young man. I think an injury to Kolb was the only way he was going to get a start this year as I fear our coaches lacks what it takes to embarrass who ever selected Kolb. Our QB Max Hall seemed to show a lot of fear when you looked into his eyes behind the center. It seemed to me that Whiz making Hall the #2 over Skelton was really not very smart for a head coach. Of course I did not attend all the practices and Whiz knows a lot more about football than me.

The problem with your thinking is Kolb wasn't that skittish QB in Philly that he is in AZ...and it's gotten worse as the season has gone on. Where's the problem? Pourous OT's or coaching? I know I would run for my life at the first sign of pressure knowing I had #75 and #72 blocking for me.

 

[52brandon]

The problem with your thinking is Kolb wasn't that skittish QB in Philly that he is in AZ...and it's gotten worse as the season has gone on. Where's the problem? Pourous OT's or coaching? I know I would run for my life at the first sign of pressure knowing I had #75 and #72 blocking for me.

both. Poor routes that don't allow him to get rid of the ball in time. The blocking at tackle blows. His footwork is wrong, he backs up toward Levi, bad idea. And then when he scrambles, he still holds the ball and takes the sack when nobody is open instead of throwing it away. There's a lot to fix, but it can be fixed, Hopefully it will be

 

[Duckjake]

both. Poor routes that don't allow him to get rid of the ball in time. The blocking at tackle blows. His footwork is wrong, he backs up toward Levi, bad idea. And then when he scrambles, he still holds the ball and takes the sack when nobody is open instead of throwing it away. There's a lot to fix, but it can be fixed, Hopefully it will be

It is odd to see a right handed QB who turns and runs away to his left.

 

[THESMEL]

John Skelton is a man in the pocket, can throw it through a brick wall. Is extremely Smart. He has a better than average chance to be a great NFL QB on size and skill sets alone.
Today we see an equal to Kevin Kolb as a back up QB. But Skelton has the potenial to be much better than Kolb in the future.

 

[Buckybird]

John Skelton is a man in the pocket, can throw it through a brick wall. Is extremely Smart. He has a better than average chance to be a great NFL QB on size and skill sets alone.
Today we see an equal to Kevin Kolb as a back up QB. But Skelton has the potenial to be much better than Kolb in the future.

accuracy & a slow delivery and windup like Byron Leftwich says otherwise about Skelton. He's not the answer to a Super Bowl title.

 

[AzStevenCal]

accuracy & a slow delivery and windup like Byron Leftwich says otherwise about Skelton. He's not the answer to a Super Bowl title.

Right now I'd settle for the answer to consecutive completions. The Super Bowl appears to be more a fantasy in the next few years than a goal.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

The problem with your thinking is Kolb wasn't that skittish QB in Philly that he is in AZ...and it's gotten worse as the season has gone on. Where's the problem? Pourous OT's or coaching? I know I would run for my life at the first sign of pressure knowing I had #75 and #72 blocking for me.

That was actually one of the knocks on him before the trade. He didnt stay in the pocket and he had a low "eye level" meaning he is looking at his blocking and not his receivers.

 

[52brandon]

It is odd to see a right handed QB who turns and runs away to his left.

yeah, I don't know if it can be fixed. That's the biggest issue with Kolb. I'm 99% sure Levi will not be there next year which is positive, but Kolb still needs to work on his pocket presence. A LOT. I'm hopeful for him. I think he can be good. I hope he will be good, we've already paid him like he's better than good. It's all about fixing his little mental errors

 

[Buckybird]

Right now I'd settle for the answer to consecutive completions. The Super Bowl appears to be more a fantasy in the next few years than a goal.

Steve

I hear ya Stevo...but if this team & its coaches dont have that as a goal regardless of whats happening on the field it never will. Mindset is such an important part in winning IMO

 

[AzStevenCal]

I hear ya Stevo...but if this team & its coaches dont have that as a goal regardless of whats happening on the field it never will. Mindset is such an important part in winning IMO

You're right, that's what they should be pointing towards. But, we're so far off we're probably going to have to settle for baby steps.

Steve