Skelton will ROCK Sunday

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As most of you know I hate to post anything positive about any Cardinal player for fear the Duckjake jinx will ruin their career.

But after watching Big John Sunday I just have this feeling that the guy is our QBOF. He sits well in the pocket. Has good size and a solid arm. And it looks like he even has the intangibles.

5 years from now he'll be the guy people talk about when others say you can't get an elite QB in the late rounds.

Go Skelator.

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Oh crap!

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In my efforts to counter the Duckjake curse... Champ Bailey gets two ints, one for a pick six. :sad:
 

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I don't want to get my hopes up, at all. But I do like what I see from Skelton. He looked calm in the pocket Sunday...he made accurate throws. Sure, he misread some things but on a blitz he threw off his back foot (because he had to) downfield with a guy in his face to where he thought Fitz would be. Of course, Fitz wasn't there and he got a grounding penalty but it would have been a huge play if he'd have read it right and it was best looking "mistake" I've seen in a season full of QB mistakes.

Skelton has the measurables and the footwork looks pretty clean. Arm is solid. So is accuracy.

The test to pass now is mental...can he read defenses and adjust? Will he get fooled too easily?

I'm excited to find out. Yes, there is still something I'm excited about for this team.

But with the relative suck the QB position has shown us, and Whis thinking Hall was a better option than John, I'm expecting him to come out and look like crap. :(
 
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I don't want to get my hopes up, at all. But I do like what I see from Skelton. He looked calm in the pocket Sunday...he made accurate throws. Sure, he misread some things but on a blitz he threw off his back foot (because he had to) downfield with a guy in his face to where he thought Fitz would be. Of course, Fitz wasn't there and he got a grounding penalty but it would have been a huge play if he'd have read it right and it was best looking "mistake" I've seen in a season full of QB mistakes.

Skelton has the measurables and the footwork looks pretty clean. Arm is solid. So is accuracy.

The test to pass now is mental...can he read defenses and adjust? Will he get fooled too easily?

I'm excited to find out. Yes, there is still something I'm excited about for this team.

But with the relative suck the QB position has shown us, and Whis thinking Hall was a better option than John, I'm expecting him to come out and look like crap. :(

Only the Cardinals would get called for intentional grounding on a throw like that. Manning could throw 20 a season and never get flagged. :mad:
 

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I have no idea what Skeletor is going to do but for the first time in several weeks, I'm actually excited about watching the game.

Steve
 

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I have no idea what Skeletor is going to do but for the first time in several weeks, I'm actually excited about watching the game.

Steve

I'm much more excited about him than when Hall was inserted as the starter.
 

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I'm much more excited about him than when Hall was inserted as the starter.
Me too. Skelton looks the part, physically. Hall doesn't really. Skelton can't be too much of an idiot if he went to Fordham. I just hope that he puts it together.
 

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Only the Cardinals would get called for intentional grounding on a throw like that. Manning could throw 20 a season and never get flagged. :mad:

Yep, I've seen throws like that many times that are not flagged.
 

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Cheers hoping Skelton turns out to be a good qb, and not a highschool qb cough Anderson cough
 

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As most of you know I hate to post anything positive about any Cardinal player for fear the Duckjake jinx will ruin their career.

But after watching Big John Sunday I just have this feeling that the guy is our QBOF. He sits well in the pocket. Has good size and a solid arm. And it looks like he even has the intangibles.

5 years from now he'll be the guy people talk about when others say you can't get an elite QB in the late rounds.

Go Skelator.

I only hope so. Seems like a real tough Kid, and smart like a fox. Maybe Whiz was really trying to let him learn this year on the bench? No let us get real Whiz doesn't have a clue...!!! :)
 

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I expect the team will rise up a bit at least for one game or two to defend the kid, hopefully, at least they should.

One thing about it, it's not just a paycheck out there tomorrow, it's the kids future, usually they give a new kid a few series of their best efforts just for common decency.

I'll be very interested to see if they actually do their best at least at the start so they can judge him themselves, typically if you look for it you'll see a team do that with a new QB even if they've quit on the season for the most part.

At any rate, it's a great reason to watch the game, you just never know what you're going to get.
 

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I only hope so. Seems like a real tough Kid, and smart like a fox. Maybe Whiz was really trying to let him learn this year on the bench? No let us get real Whiz doesn't have a clue...!!! :)
Let's hope that you are wrong on this one! :thumbup: GO CARDS!
 

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Whiz needs to run the ball and max protect this kid regardless of the outcome. BUT HE WON"T
He wants him to toss like a probowl QB or die trying.
 

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This is a perfect storm for him, btw.

The defense brought it like hell for Max Hall. He's better than Hall. The defense got ripped by SF on MNF, and had a better (but not good) game last week. It is a home game. A bad team. The crowd will be fully behind him, because there is NOBODY behind him.

He will have the defense, the crowd and the offense behind him. It will be really hard to fail with this going for him against the Donkeys. If he sucks tomorrow...grab the sky, people!
 

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Freaking Cardinals are like the mafia.

Everytime I think I'm out, they pull me back in.

GO SKELTON! GO CARDINALS!
 

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I'm a little worried that each player is gonna take care of his own problems and not give a crap about we do this together.

Whiz has cultivated a dog eat dog competition instead of we are family deal with competition.

hardly anybody is under contract into the future. most would rather be somewhere else, doing something else with someone else.

CBA Whiz has shown his hand this year with RFA of the CBA variety. He'll stick his foot on their throats and squeeze all he can out of them.

few on this team is vested in making sure Skelton comes out better.




I expect the team will rise up a bit at least for one game or two to defend the kid, hopefully, at least they should.

One thing about it, it's not just a paycheck out there tomorrow, it's the kids future, usually they give a new kid a few series of their best efforts just for common decency.

I'll be very interested to see if they actually do their best at least at the start so they can judge him themselves, typically if you look for it you'll see a team do that with a new QB even if they've quit on the season for the most part.

At any rate, it's a great reason to watch the game, you just never know what you're going to get.
 
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Whiz needs to run the ball and max protect this kid regardless of the outcome. BUT HE WON"T
He wants him to toss like a probowl QB or die trying.

How can they run the ball and not throw when they have stuff like this:

Hightower's carries vs the Rams: +20,1,-4,1,32,-1,23,0,-5,0,8,3,4,-1,0

That's 9 of 15 carries that gained 1 yard or less. Add in LSH's one run for zero and the Cards had 10 of 19 carries that got basically nothing.

The Cards 5.5 ypc average vs the Rams doesn't look so good now does it?

Note: In the last two games TH has 13 of 20 carries that gained 2 yards or less and 7 that lost yards. The Cards have 18 of 30 at 2 yards or less.
 
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Beanie needs 3-1 carries over THT, its that simple. Beanie is the featured back THT is the change of pace.

only after you establish Beanie with more than 7 carries do you give him a break with THT. Wright is better than THT as a sustained back, but He's not the outside threat THT is.

I mean just look back at what Edge did in the 08 playoffs, and THT in that role, hell THT had 10 TD's as a rookie, and most of them came in that role, He died as a featured back,

Yea they need to reduce the penalties that kill them but that comes with feeding the damn bean and getting successful reps more often.

thats how we run the damn ball, just like when Indy wins! saints, Patriots, they all stay true to the run, stubbornly when they win solid.

It aint brain surgery or rocket science, It's fundementally sound football

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How can they run the ball and not throw when they have stuff like this:

Hightower's carries vs the Rams: +20,1,-4,1,32,-1,23,0,-5,0,8,3,4,-1,0

That's 9 of 15 carries that gained 1 yard or less. Add in LSH's one run for zero and the Cards had 10 of 19 carries that got basically nothing.

The Cards 5.5 ypc average vs the Rams doesn't look so good now does it?

Note: In the last two games TH has 13 of 20 carries that gained 2 yards or less and 7 that lost yards. The Cards have 18 of 30 at 2 yards or less.
 

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The more we run the ball today, (I don't care which back, unless one of them fumbles) the better shot Skeletor has at "rocking."
 

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As much as I agree with the philosophy of running the ball, the Cardinals will actually have to accomplish this. If the RBs are only getting a couple yards on first done and another few yards on second down, then Skelton will be forced to pass. IMO, Skelton will likely have to prove he can pass the ball on early downs to open up the run because third down is not the best down to be passing. I haven't seen the Cardinals running backs and offensive line impose there will on another team. The Cardinals will need to control the blitz. I'd like to see Skelton throw the ball deep early to give the opposing team something to think about.
 
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