Skins Vs. Cards Week 7

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It is above average, but it could look pretty good with the O-line problems you guys are having. We do tend to struggle bringing down mobile QBs like Campbell though. Our biggest weakness is the secondary, but it appears like your WRs are your flaw so maybe the sides will be even, our great recievers against your great secondary and your piss-poor recievers against our pathetic secondary.
 

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For all the rave reviews about Campbell and Portis, neither one produces much when it matters.

Look at the Skins record and who they've played: http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS

They have played mostly poor teams and have struggled to score against everybody except Detroit, when they scored 18 points in the 4th period, and won their only game against a team with a winning record.

The defense has been very good, carrying the team so far, in my opinion.

They are favored by 6, and should win this one because they are at home.

Having said that, if I were game planning against them, I'd be conservative on offense, just focusing on not turning the ball over. Try to shut down the run on defense and make Campbell beat us. He's young and and often finds ways not to score when he should, especially late in games.

If Campbell beats us, so be it. Hail to the Redskins.

Do current injuries favor them or us? I don't care. Injuries are always a factor in the NFL. No whining.

The Skins are beatable. Bring on the game!
 
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I will agree completely, the offense under Jason Campbell has not really produced when needed. Our defense has been stellar, holding teams to 13.8 ppg and 259 YPG. They proved their worth by shutting down the top rated NFL passers at the time in two consecutive weeks. Costly turnovers on offense that lead to TD's, as well as little offensive production, have been our demise.
 
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For all the rave reviews about Campbell and Portis, neither one produces much when it matters.

Look at the Skins record and who they've played: http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS

They have played mostly poor teams and have struggled to score against everybody except Detroit, when they scored 18 points in the 4th period, and won their only game against a team with a winning record.

The defense has been very good, carrying the team so far, in my opinion.

They are favored by 6, and should win this one because they are at home.

Having said that, if I were game planning against them, I'd be conservative on offense, just focusing on not turning the ball over. Try to shut down the run on defense and make Campbell beat us. He's young and and often finds ways not to score when he should, especially late in games.

If Campbell beats us, so be it. Hail to the Redskins.

Do current injuries favor them or us? I don't care. Injuries are always a factor in the NFL. No whining.

The Skins are beatable. Bring on the game!


Can Edge move the ball on them?

If yes, it may be a close game.
If no, I don't think we have much of a chance.

I'm ashamed to admit I don't know the Skins as well as I should.

Go Cards!!!
 
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Havent played the most prolific rushers in the NFL but so far have held opponents to 79 ypg. The way to beat the Skins is to force turnovers from Campbell and the fumble happy WR's. Our defense has been shutting down everyone recently. 259 total YPG.
 

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:( Was just surprised, that's all. Wasn't trying to come across as mean or anything.

100 posts or less = no avatar & itty bitty pm mailbox
1,000+ posts = bigger avatar & bigger pm mailbox

Somewhere along the lines your pm mailbox gets even bigger, but I'm not sure where.

ASFN puberty, everything gets bigger. :)
 

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Redskinsxlii talking about the Skins defensive pressure and sacks sent me diving for the official NFL stats because I was under the impression that our defense was just as effective as theirs.

Here are some of the stats, filtered by sack numbers. Filter them yourselves by other factors, if you wish.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onference=ALL&role=OPP&season=&seasonType=REG

Clearly, the defenses are incredibly similarly efficient. They are both very good. This could well be another 14-13 or 16-13 type of score with the defense of the winning team causing a late turnover to determine the outcome.

Advantage to them because in a close game the home team crowd can cause the visitor communications problems, resulting in motion penalties, bad blitz pickups and all other kinds of dastardly malfunctions.
 
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Redskinsxlii talking about the Skins defensive pressure and sacks sent me diving for the official NFL stats because I was under the impression that our defense was just as effective as theirs.

Here are some of the stats, filtered by sack numbers. Filter them yourselves by other factors, if you wish.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...onference=ALL&role=OPP&season=&seasonType=REG

Clearly, the defenses are incredibly similarly efficient. They are both very good. This could well be another 14-13 or 16-13 type of score with the defense of the winning team causing a late turnover to determine the outcome.

Advantage to them because in a close game the home team crowd can cause the visitor communications problems, resulting in motion penalties, bad blitz pickups and all other kinds of dastardly malfunctions.

Cards do have a great defense but the stat that sticks out the most is 13.8 ppg allowed by the Skins (having faced 2 of the top passers) and the cardinals giving up 21.3
 
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Also i must point out we already had our bye week... so all our stats are a game less than yours.... I.E your 16 sacks to our 15.
 

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Also i must point out we already had our bye week... so all our stats are a game less than yours.... I.E your 16 sacks to our 15.
Well we only try to get sacks in the first three quarters of every game, so actually your guys have had two more quarters of action than ours.
 

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Also i must point out we already had our bye week... so all our stats are a game less than yours.... I.E your 16 sacks to our 15.

It is still a lot closer then you think.

Washington has 15 sacks on 186 pass attempts giving them a sack for every 12.4 pass attempts they face.

Arizona has 16 sacks on 212 pass attempts giving them a sack every 13.25 pass attempts they face.

Sacks all by them self doesnt say all that much about a pass rush. Not every team faces the same amount of passing attempts giving them more or less opportunites for a sack, thus every team is not on the same level. Pass attempts per sack is a much better test.
 

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Havent played the most prolific rushers in the NFL but so far have held opponents to 79 ypg. The way to beat the Skins is to force turnovers from Campbell and the fumble happy WR's. Our defense has been shutting down everyone recently. 259 total YPG.

You are about to face one
 

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Double Martini ..Welcome Mr. Skins! I hope this week nobody gets hurt..We need a week off from that. By the way we don't want Brunel.

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Cards do have a great defense but the stat that sticks out the most is 13.8 ppg allowed by the Skins (having faced 2 of the top passers) and the cardinals giving up 21.3

Actually, you give up 20.2 points per game and we do indeed give up 21.3. Your 13.8 ppg game figure is either invented or wishful thinking.

Since the real difference is minuscule, I can understand your insecurity and need for self-delusion. Ostriches do that by burying their heads in the sand.

Here is the NFL's list of passers, ranked by passer rating. You brag you have faced two of the NFL's top passers, implying, on the fly, that you have faced better passers than we have. Neither your claim nor the implication are correct.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...ING&qualified=true&season=2007&seasonType=REG

We have faced Roethlesberger at #6 and Hasselbeck at #10, albeit both at home. In the top 10, you have faced Kitna, at #8, also at home.

The other Qbs you have faced were not top ten, nor were the ones we faced, so I don't consider them "top QBs."

Incidentally, your guy, Campbell, is ranked 20th. Our guys are worse or not even ranked at all.
 

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...We dominated Green Bay in pretty much every category, held Favre to under 200 yards passing and 1 TD total and still managed to piss away the game with a stupid fumble for a TD.


True. In my opinion Dallas is a pretty good team, but other than the Cowboys I don’t think any team in the NFC has better than 8-8 talent. But there will be teams in the NFC with winning records despite the lack of talent just because there are so many mediocre teams in the conference where someone has to win. I’d say Dallas is pretty good, and the Rams and Falcons are pretty bad. Other than that though, I don’t think much separates the winning and losing teams in the NFC. Just look at the recent Seahawks/Saints game. If you didn’t know their records, you’d say the Saints had the better team watching that game. I think almost everyone still has a chance in the NFC except for the Rams and Falcons. I think most games will come down to who makes the fewest mistakes instead of who makes the most plays in the NFC. Because I don’t think there is that much talent on the teams in the NFC to make a lot of plays to win.
 
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Actually, you give up 20.2 points per game and we do indeed give up 21.3. Your 13.8 ppg game figure is either invented or wishful thinking.

Actually buddy that is offensive 20.2 is how many points we score a game..........if you would just go ahead and click DEFENSE,then you would see its 13.8. And i will correct myself... the cards give up 22.7 a game but score 21.3 . So yea as i said, we give up 13.8 ppg. For the future, please do not correct someone if you are not absolutely sure that your info is correct... thanks....
 
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Actually buddy that is offensive 20.2 is how many points we score a game..........if you would just go ahead and click DEFENSE,then you would see its 13.8. And i will correct myself... the cards give up 22.7 a game but score 21.3 . So yea as i said, we give up 13.8 ppg. For the future, please do not correct someone if you are not absolutely sure that your info is correct... thanks....
Let me correct you. This is Skkorps' board. He gets to correct anyone he likes.
 

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Actually buddy that is offensive 20.2 is how many points we score a game..........if you would just go ahead and click DEFENSE,then you would see its 13.8. And i will correct myself... the cards give up 22.7 a game but score 21.3 . So yea as i said, we give up 13.8 ppg. For the future, please do not correct someone if you are not absolutely sure that your info is correct... thanks....


Easy now, Skorp owns and pays for this board. Please don't go off on him.
 

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Well, in Redskins' defense...Skkorp did say:
Your 13.8 ppg game figure is either invented or wishful thinking.

Which isn't true. 13.8 ppg is correct. I'd have been offended at the way Skkorp "corrected" me, too. I think skkorp is thick-skinned enough to handle it :)
 
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