So Rosen Effectively Won It for Us, but Dawson Choked It Away

[TRW]

BS... they loaded the box and a quick pass to the sidelines had a better chance of success than the choice he made. And had it landed, we could have virtually run out the clock before the kick.

Yup.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

To be fair, I think he missed one earlier in OT or 4th quarter.

Dawson is Dawson. You know what you have in him. A lousy kicker

 

[TRW]

To be fair, I think he missed one earlier in OT or 4th quarter.

Janikowski missed 2 also didn’t he?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Ultimately, you have to trust your kicker to make a 45 yarder. Wilkes and McCoy, much to many person's here chagrin, called the plays that got us down into field goal range, right?

They did not put Dawson in a position to fail.

On 3rd down, he did not put rosen in a position to where he might a sack. DJ should have kept it going north and south on the run.

They gave Dawson a chance to win the game, and he choked.

It's more on Dawson that it is on the coaching staff.

 

[CardsFan88]

Dawson is Dawson. You know what you have in him. A lousy kicker

Of course, and i basically called it in game thread. But McCrane missed a big kick and was lucky he got a chance at redemption.

The post was more about the tweeter's framing of it all.

 

[Chopper0080]

So playing scared. Good to know he’s a p****y.

That is an insult to wussies everywhere.

 

[ReasonableMan]

Ultimately, you have to trust your kicker to make a 45 yarder. Wilkes and McCoy, much to many person's here chagrin, called the plays that got us down into field goal range, right?

They did not put Dawson in a position to fail.

On 3rd down, he did not put rosen in a position to where he might a sack. DJ should have kept it going north and south on the run.

They gave Dawson a chance to win the game, and he choked.

It's more on Dawson that it is on the coaching staff.

They gave him a chance to hopefully tie the game. SEA not getting a TD was a gamble.

 

[Chopper0080]

Ultimately, you have to trust your kicker to make a 45 yarder. Wilkes and McCoy, much to many person's here chagrin, called the plays that got us down into field goal range, right?

They did not put Dawson in a position to fail.

On 3rd down, he did not put rosen in a position to where he might a sack. DJ should have kept it going north and south on the run.

They gave Dawson a chance to win the game, and he choked.

It's more on Dawson that it is on the coaching staff.

Killing your own momentum because you haven't won a game and are afraid of a mistake is bad coaching. You can't spin it any other way.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Cardinals left too much time on the clock to go conservative. If the clock were ticking down to the final few seconds it would have been different.

It sounds like Wilks is as much to blame as McCoy.

 

[TheCardFan]

Dawson is Dawson. You know what you have in him. A lousy kicker

His kickoffs were also poor.

I would rather have a rookie kicker because at least their is some upside and the cost is much less.

Who pays a 40+ year old kicker 3m to lose this many games in two years?

I would rather have Zane Gonzalez or Daniel Carlson.

Not our biggest problem but need to move on from Dawson.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

His kickoffs were also poor.

I would rather have a rookie kicker because at least their is some upside and the cost is much less.

Who pays a 40+ year old kicker 3m to lose this many games in two years?

I would rather have Zane Gonzalez or Daniel Carlson.

Not our biggest problem but need to move on from Dawson.

And it will show SOME accountability

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ultimately, you have to trust your kicker to make a 45 yarder. Wilkes and McCoy, much to many person's here chagrin, called the plays that got us down into field goal range, right?

They did not put Dawson in a position to fail.

On 3rd down, he did not put rosen in a position to where he might a sack. DJ should have kept it going north and south on the run.

They gave Dawson a chance to win the game, and he choked.

It's more on Dawson that it is on the coaching staff.

Wrong. They didn’t maximize our ability to win. They knew they had a lousy kicker and they didn’t play to I create his chances. Sanders has posted repeatedly the league average from that distance is 66%. That’s average. I’d argue that Dawson is sub-average. So what would that make his likelihood of success? 50-55%? That’s not a percentage where you “expect your kicker to make it.” That’s hoping he makes it. They were as at fault as Dawson was.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Ultimately, you have to trust your kicker to make a 45 yarder. Wilkes and McCoy, much to many person's here chagrin, called the plays that got us down into field goal range, right?

They did not put Dawson in a position to fail.

On 3rd down, he did not put rosen in a position to where he might a sack. DJ should have kept it going north and south on the run.

They gave Dawson a chance to win the game, and he choked.

It's more on Dawson that it is on the coaching staff.

BS. It's on both of them. Maybe you're conditioned to believe a sack was coming or a terrible play would happen if Rosen got a chance to do something, but wake up. Rosen is NOT Bradford. He's a gamer and this is TWO WEEKS IN A ROW he's been dealing, leading the team down the field for the play-caller to tuck their nuts back into their stomach and make the most conservative calls possible instead of the letting the rookie go out there and get his, win or lose. At least either way, he gets the W or it's a learning experience. Taking the ball out of your best players hands (especially today) was indefensivably stupid.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

BS. It's on both of them. Maybe you're conditioned to believe a sack was coming or a terrible play would happen if Rosen got a chance to do something, but wake up. Rosen is NOT Bradford. He's a gamer and this is TWO WEEKS IN A ROW he's been dealing, leading the team down the field for the play-caller to tuck their nuts back into their stomach and make the most conservative calls possible instead of the letting the rookie go out there and get his, win or lose. At least either way, he gets the W or it's a learning experience. Taking the ball out of your best players hands (especially today) was indefensivably stupid.

LOL.. they gave it to DJ three time in a row dummy. He's still our best offensive player, at least for the moment.

And you better stop trolling me Cheese.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Meanwhile Dan Bailey was unemployed prior to the season starting

 

[DVontel]

Meanwhile Dan Bailey was unemployed prior to the season starting

He wanted to sign with a contending team.

Minnesota doesn’t look like a contender anymore, though.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Meanwhile Dan Bailey was unemployed prior to the season starting

Keim was in Maricopa county intake while Bailey was being signed

 

[iLLmatiC]

Keim was in Maricopa county intake while Bailey was being signed

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[cardsfanmd]

Said when they interviewed Wilks that no matter how good he may be, nobody was worth having McCoy as your OC and got blasted to hell on here lol. Twenty asinine moves later, including keeping Dawson after he was unequivocally outplayed by a UDFA (McCrane won the game for Oakland today) and my position has not changed. This is hard to watch. On the plus side, Rosen is the type to ignore him and do things his own way by season’s end.

 

[Cheesebeef]

LOL.. they gave it to DJ three time in a row dummy. He's still our best offensive player, at least for the moment.

And you better stop trolling me Cheese.

I better stop trolling you after you told me Ouchie what we would have said "crying bloody murder" about not running DJ? And then calling me Dummy? The best player on the field today was Rosen. Not a guy averaging 3 yards per carry ALL SEASON and going with the same play three straight times against a line that was stuffing the run.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Yep. Let's call a spade a spade.

Josh Rosen was the MVP on offense today. DJ was a close 2nd.

WHAT?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I better stop trolling you after you told me Ouchie what we would have said "crying bloody murder" about not running DJ? And then calling me Dummy? The best player on the field today was Rosen. Not a guy averaging 3 yards per carry ALL SEASON and going with the same play three straight times against a line that was stuffing the run.

Look man, I have better things to do than argue with you Cheese. Yes, Rosen was the MVP.

Good day sir!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I would love to ask the Cardinals front office these two questions:

Me: Why did you keep Phil Dawson ?

Cards: Well, when it comes to a pressure situation, we want a veteran who has been there.

Me: OK. I agree Phil Dawson has "been there" but did he make any of those kicks in pressure situations ? If so, please name a few.

......would LOVE to hear that answer.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

WHAT?

What, DJ was a distant 2nd?

 

[gimpy]

I think many times playing a veteran over a rookie is easily way over rated when the rookie has a lot more athletic ability than the veteran.