So we're 1-1, let me see if I've got this right....

[Card Trader]

We need to fire Green today.

We need to cut or inactivate Leonard Davis.

We need to bench Warner and start Leinart.

We need to fire Rowen.

We need to spend the remaining 10 million of our cap, even though there really isn't anyone out there.


Did I miss anything? 1-1 and the season is over, let's start talking draft!

 

[D-Dogg]

We are also second place in our division, if I am not mistaken.

Seattle 2-0
Cards 1-1 (both division games)
Niners 1-1 (loss head to head v. us)
Rams 1-1 (0-1 division record)


So, let's go whip the ish out of the Rams next week, have both O and D show up, and let's be strong in the division.

 

[Card Trader]

Well you know what they say. Second place is the first loser.

 

[Shane]

We need to fire Green today.

We need to cut or inactivate Leonard Davis.

We need to bench Warner and start Leinart.

We need to fire Rowen.

We need to spend the remaining 10 million of our cap, even though there really isn't anyone out there.


Did I miss anything? 1-1 and the season is over, let's start talking draft!

No season isnt over. But it will be pretty quickly if the O-line play and on field coaching doesnt improve dramatically. They are beyond pathetic. History and current level of play doesnt instill much confidence that it will improve in any way shape or form!

Leonard Davis is overrated and Green as a coach is WAYYYY overrated!

 

[vince56]

Well you know what they say. Second place is the first loser.

wrong. 2nd place is the 1st wild card

 

[Sandan]

Looking over the schedule that might have been our toughest game

 

[Card Trader]

Yeah, it probably was our toughest game, but the sky is definitely falling. 1-1. How pathetic.

 

[Shane]

Looking over the schedule that might have been our toughest game

Ha. Bears and Cowboys at home will be just as tough. The Bears may be tougher home or not. If we couldnt handle Seattles D imagine theirs.

The Chargers away will be about as tough as well.

 

[Evil Ash]

Yeah, it probably was our toughest game, but the sky is definitely falling. 1-1. How pathetic.

Its over-reaction but what do you expect after a tough loss?

Give people a day or 2 and they should calm down

 

[Shane]

Yeah, it probably was our toughest game, but the sky is definitely falling. 1-1. How pathetic.

You could be beaten down, pissed on, crapped on, and falt broke and Im sure you would find someway to be posotive.

 

[Evil Ash]

You could be beaten down, pissed on, crapped on, and falt broke and Im sure you would find someway to be posotive.

And we could win 56-0 against a team and people would still bitch about it. Let people have their own opinion.

 

[az1965]

The sky may not be falling, but you can go ahead and bury your head in the sand and ignore the issues this team has displayed in both games.

This game was ours to be taken. Any decent team would have taken this game away from Seattle.

 

[Shane]

And we could win 56-0 against a team and people would still bitch about it. Let people have their own opinion.

Highly unlikely!

:roll:

Why should I he doesnt let us have ours apparently they are "pathetic." Oh thats right because hes on the posotive side and his opinions are like yours they are the right ones correct?

 

[Card Trader]

You could be beaten down, pissed on, crapped on, and falt broke and Im sure you would find someway to be posotive.

We're 1-1! You are acting like we just lost to the Raiders at home or something. We lost to the NFC Champs, in their house, and if it weren't for a couple of missed FGs and a bad fumble, there might have been a different outcome.

Now if we lose to the Rams at home this week, you'll see me sing a different tune.

 

[daytripper]

"Let me see if I've got this straight?.."

Respectfully,IMHO Youre close.

We need to fire Green today.
Wont have to, he is sinking his own boat with poor game management and the Oline disaster

We need to cut or inactivate Leonard Davis.
No, just moving to LG would suffice

We need to bench Warner and start Leinart.
This will take care of itself with, regetably, a Warner injury

We need to fire Rowen.
Wont have to, he'll be tossed with the bath water when Green goes

We need to spend the remaining 10 million of our cap, even though there really isn't anyone out there.
Change need to, to should have, and that would nail it.


Did I miss anything? 1-1 and the season is over, let's start talking draft![/QUOTE]

 

[Evil Ash]

The sky may not be falling, but you can go ahead and bury your head in the sand and ignore the issues this team has displayed in both games.

The team played well on offense for one game and the defense played pretty well today. This team has yet to find their identity.

All teams have issues and problems at this point, its just a matter of seeing if they fix them in weeks to come. For example last week we had trouble with missed tackling and over pursuit ... both of those problems went away this week but new problems arrived.

Like I said after the game last week, give them until game 4. If they don't have an identity and are still having many problems that they are now then its time to get pissed/start to worry

 

[Shane]

We're 1-1! You are acting like we just lost to the Raiders at home or something. We lost to the NFC Champs, in their house, and if it weren't for a couple of missed FGs and a bad fumble, there might have been a different outcome.

Now if we lose to the Rams at home this week, you'll see me sing a different tune.

I agree I expected to lose and predicted such. However I didnt expect to lose in such a pathetic manner. I also dont expect this team or staff to quit like they did. Thats unforgivable IMO!

Lets hope your 2nd point does not happen!

 

[Evil Ash]

Highly unlikely!

:roll:

Why should I he doesnt let us have ours apparently they are "pathetic." Oh thats right because hes on the posotive side and his opinions are like yours they are the right ones correct?

Huh? I said let people have their own opinion and thats what I'm saying to do ... LET PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN DAMN OPINION. There is no right or wrong, its a matter of opinion.

Some people are optomists, some are pessimists and others are realists. Leave each group be

Like for example I believe that we should wait until after week 4 to make a judgement on this team and I believe that starting a rookie QB might be the dumbest and biggest panic move in the history of sports. I also think firing Green at this point is panic move that will result in nothing positive. Some will agree with me, others will not

Its just a discussion Shane. Our opinions influence absolutely nothing that happens on the field whether we like it or not.

 

[Shane]

Huh? I said let people have their own opinion and thats what I'm saying to do ... LET PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN DAMN OPINION. There is no right or wrong, its a matter of opinion.

Some people are optomists, some are pessimists and others are realists. Leave each group be

Like for example I believe that we should wait until after week 4 to make a judgement on this team and I believe that starting a rookie QB might be the dumbest and biggest panic move in the history of sports. I also think firing Green at this point is panic move that will result in nothing positive. Some will agree with me, others will not

Its just a discussion Shane. Our opinions influence absolutely nothing that happens on the field whether we like it or not.

Hmm well let me ask you this? Why didnt you tell him to let us have our opinions when he referred to us that are less than optimistic as pathetic? You waited till I made referance that he is posotive to make mention of it?

 

[Evil Ash]

Hmm well let me ask you this? Why didnt you tell him to let us have our opinions when he referred to us that less than optimistic as pathetic? You waited till I made referance that he is posotive to make mention of it?

I missed that part of the conversation. No side of the discussion is pathetic PERIOD

This goes for everyone here ... let people have their opinions. Do NOT insult people for their opinion. Its fine to debate and express our opinions but insulting does nothing for your side of the conversation

 

[Shane]

I missed that part of the conversation. No side of the discussion is pathetic PERIOD
This goes for everyone here ... let people have their opinions. Do NOT insult people for their opinion. Its fine to debate and express our opinions but insulting does nothing for your side of the conversation

I agree. But it kills me sometimes how someone can be nothing but posotive about pretty much anything Cardinals. You would think at some point in time one would see that we are just missing something!

 

[Card Trader]

I agree. But it kills me sometimes how someone can be nothing but posotive about pretty much anything Cardinals. You would think at some point in time one would see that we are just missing something!

Shane, contrary to your belief, I'm very upset with how the team played, especially with how the last 3-5 minutes of the game unfolded. It was inexcusable, and I hope the media will address it with the coach so we can get some kind explanation....one is needed.

That said, living through all the bad seasons, especially recently, I'm still very encouraged this year, and this one game isn't going to make me go doom and gloom.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I agree I expected to lose and predicted such. However I didnt expect to lose in such a pathetic manner. I also dont expect this team or staff to quit like they did. Thats unforgivable IMO!

Lets hope your 2nd point does not happen!

We lost by eleven.

Do you remember when a less impressive SEA team beat us 38-0 on our home field a couple of years ago? Now that was pathetic.

Do you remember last year when alexander ran up one side of wilsons face and down the other? That was also pathetic.

With the exception of losing hutchison, these guys had a great offseason. They are a good/great team and they have the best running back in football.

Their crowd whipped that defense into a frenzy, and they threw everything they had at us and we we're still in the game in the fourth quarter.

We blocked a field goal. When was the last time that happened?

I'm not saying we played great. I'm not saying some of the coaching decisions were questionable. I'm not saying warner played great or that the pass protection was good, because it was not.

The darksiders' point is taken. There have been several red flags going up in the first two games. I'm concerned.

But the fact remains that we are 1-1, and we have a very winnable game next week on the road. The rams lost the to niners today in case you did not catch that score.

I understand that the coaching and o-line play is questionable, but I'm certainly not going to start freaking out until I see what happens next week.

 

[conraddobler]

Shane, contrary to your belief, I'm very upset with how the team played, especially with how the last 3-5 minutes of the game unfolded. It was inexcusable, and I hope the media will address it with the coach so we can get some kind explanation....one is needed.

That said, living through all the bad seasons, especially recently, I'm still very encouraged this year, and this one game isn't going to make me go doom and gloom.

Well a win on the road this year would be nice, we need at least 2 of them that's if we never lose at home.

The thing is that I just have not seen a worse road team in 40 years, this team is just plain horrible on the road.

I guess it's progress if we win at home, the 49ers btw are better than they were advertised to be, they beat the Rams, I think we will beat them too so 2-1 wouldn't be anything to sneeze at, of course now we sort of have to win that game, but again where we are at record wise isn't the problem.

The problem is that we aren't some recently rebuilt team anymore, this is year 3, teams at that stage given the opportunities we got today, should win the game or at least make it a shoot out, we bumbled so bad it's pathetic, that's the part I can't stand, losing, eh that was probably going to happen anyway but the fact we couldn't make it closer given how bad the Seahawks played, well that dosen't inspire me.

 

[PJ1]

But the fact remains that we are 1-1, and we have a very winnable game next week on the road. The rams lost the to niners today in case you did not catch that score.

QUOTE]

We are at home next week. It will not be an easy game. If we make mistakes like we did today we will lose again.