So What’s Wrong With Kyler Murray?

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

On the Kyler blames his teammates for everything and sulks thing, just came across my FB page he gave his entire offensive line custom fitted golf clubs this year. Teammates seem to like him so I don't think that's the problem.

He has lots of things he needs to improve on, I don't think his teammates see that stuff the way some people here do. And again one of the shots FOX showed us Sunday was highly misleading as Talib admitted later on, Kyler was actually not hanging head looking at the ground, he was watching film on the tablet but FOX cut the shot so we couldn't see the tablet.

Exactly. We really have no idea what his teammates think of him.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

“The thing that concerns me is some of the leadership deficiencies I’ve seen, some of the body language I’ve seen from Kyler,” Palmer told Pasch. “When you’re down in Detroit, you just can’t do that. You need to keep — even though you’re faking it — you need to keep a rah-rah face on. There are just certain things you need to do as a quarterback.”

Stanton echoed the sentiment, preferring a stoic quarterback to a fiery one.

“I want my quarterback, I want to be able to look at him on the sidelines and not be able to tell if I’m up by 40 or down by 40,” Stanton said. “Everybody to a man has talked about this on different days, about Kyler’s body language. If it’s that apparent to a fan watching that, think about the effect it’s having on his teammates around him.”

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[WisconsinCard]

Idk if KK wants to run it & Kyler isn't comfortable with it or Kyler wants to do it & KK doesn't like using it? Either way it sucks because our offense would be so much better.

I believe it kk who doesn't like it, Colt was in shot gun just as much when he played and used the clap.

 

[kerouac9]

I believe it kk who doesn't like it, Colt was in shot gun just as much when he played and used the clap.

Link?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Link?

I know you just like to stir the pot, but what part of I believe, threw you off?

 

[kerouac9]

I know you just like to stir the pot, but what part of I believe, threw you off?

The part where you made a statement of fact about Colt playing from shotgun “just as much.”

 

[WisconsinCard]

The part where you made a statement of fact about Colt playing from shotgun “just as much.”

Just go to ESPN game logs and count them for yourself. It's obviously there. I admittedly only look at the San Fran game but it as I remembered it to be.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Kliff Kingsbury A Big Fan Of The Shotgun Formation

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I guess this kind of leads to my belief being correct.

 

[Arz101]

Kyler didn't progress since entering the league. Kyler is the same passer as day 1. It will not cut it in the NFL. I think that extension to Murray will be smaller than his team is anticipating

 

[WisconsinCard]

It's going to get ugly real fast. He's going to want at least an extension after this season and imo isn't worth it. I let next year play out and use the franchise tag if necessary after that. SK needs to sit this man down and tell him you want 120 million guaranteed start working for it

 

[Krusher kardinals]

He is getting better! But needs a mentor that he respects. A top quality qb coach would do wonders.

 

[Arz101]

It's going to get ugly real fast. He's going to want at least an extension after this season and imo isn't worth it. I let next year play out and use the franchise tag if necessary after that. SK needs to sit this man down and tell him you want 120 million guaranteed start working for it

They got to pay Murray. They are 5 win team with out him. Keim has no leverage here.

 

[WisconsinCard]

They got to pay Murray. They are 5 win team with out him. Keim has no leverage here.

I don't follow that line if thinking. He has his 5th year option yet to play out and as I mention the franchise tag for another year. So ya the cards have plenty of leverage. He doesn't want to out the work in, so be it.

 

[Arz101]

I don't follow that line if thinking. He has his 5th year option yet to play out and as I mention the franchise tag for another year. So ya the cards have plenty of leverage. He doesn't want to out the work in, so be it.

Murray holds out and Cardinals miss playoffs even "my first rounders bust but I am invincible" Keim is also gone in 2022. Murray will be paid before he takes one practice snap in training camp.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Murray holds out and Cardinals miss playoffs even "my first rounders bust but I am invincible" Keim is also gone in 2022. Murray will be paid before he takes one practice snap in training camp.

I didn't say he wouldn't. I said I wouldn't. I mean it's not my money. But anyhow we were talking about leverage, which I don't believe he has.

He signed a 5 years deal, so your saying he's going to hold out next year if he don't get paid?

Ok then he gets to play his 6th year under the same money as his fifth year. He's never going to get paid holding out. Also the franchise tag for a QB ain't bad money either.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I don't follow that line if thinking. He has his 5th year option yet to play out and as I mention the franchise tag for another year. So ya the cards have plenty of leverage. He doesn't want to out the work in, so be it.

Actually, the Cardinals have no real leverage, because finding just a starting QB is difficult. It's the nature of the beast and the position he plays... good luck with this franchises' history drafting another

 

[Jetstream Green]

Kyler has been impatient and not played well but by the same token which QB could with your center out and you have two backup backups playing guard next to that vital position for a short QB

 

[WisconsinCard]

Actually, the Cardinals have no real leverage, because finding just a starting QB is difficult. It's the nature of the beast and the position he plays... good luck with this franchises' history drafting another

That's moving the goal posts a bit. I am saying Kyler doesn't have the leverage over contract negotiations. Just my opinion, just ask any QB that's held out....oh there are none that I can remember.

Oh and I'm talking about after this year. In the future he could very well have all the leverage.

 

[nashman]

Kyler didn't progress since entering the league. Kyler is the same passer as day 1. It will not cut it in the NFL. I think that extension to Murray will be smaller than his team is anticipating

That’s just not true! Anyone with eyes can see Kyler is better and early in the season many were singing his praises, now a few rough games and he hasn’t progressed since day 1, that’s just an ignorant statement! He is easily the best QB this organization has ever drafted. Crappy coaching has caused much of this not to mention missing key pieces and a defense that can’t stop the 1 win Lions from throwing up 30! But yeah it’s all Kylers fault, Jesus do some of you overreact much?

 

[BritCard]

Hard to win games when your QB can't see wide open receivers 7 yards away

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[82CardsGrad]

Hard to win games when your QB can't see wide open receivers 7 yards away

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It has been stunning (not so much any longer though) to see just how often Kyler fails to locate WIDE OPEN receivers.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

It has been stunning (not so much any longer though) to see just how often Kyler fails to locate WIDE OPEN receivers.

We've been fooled, he isnt that good.

 

[AZCB34]

I think he is playing like he had a month off of football, and is missing half his oline and his best WR. He was amazing up until the last few games.

So everything has to be perfect and Kyler is money.

As a reminder, Wentz was missing just about his entire OL and a main WR and still managed to lead his team to victory.

 

[Harry]

It has been stunning (not so much any longer though) to see just how often Kyler fails to locate WIDE OPEN receivers.

I’ve said it before, he doesn’t look. Rewatch Saturday’s game. He only looks at the primary receiver. There is no use of progressions. Partly because he’s overanxious to get rid of the ball. Presumably because he doesn’t want to be hit.

 

[Shane]

It has been stunning (not so much any longer though) to see just how often Kyler fails to locate WIDE OPEN receivers.

And how many posters have actually said that this doesn’t happen In recent weeks… When it’s actually been happening all year pretty frequently even when winning.